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Posted: 11 years ago
By Brahman do we mean those dedicated to service of God or those who gave up family life? This is with re: post above
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: KrisUdayasankar

The answer is simple. The only person who is responsible for any situation is the one who has chosen to do nothing about it. The only people responsible for the rise of a tyrant are those who choose to submit and suffer. The only people responsible for evil are those who choose not to fight it. That the gwala you once knew rose to be prince was nothing but an instrument, a means to an end. It was the people of Surasena who raised him to that position, because they decided that enough was enough. And I don't know about you, but I think Aryavarta has reached that point. Enough.'

'Because a man sworn as Emperor to protect these lands wagered them away? Because a good woman was humilated and hurt in the most terrifying of ways?'

I couldn't agree more here with what you said Ma'am..Those who prefer to stay silent & let Adharm & Injustice take place, without even trying to suppress it, are as much Wrong Doers as those who do the Bad Deeds themselves!!

Eagerly awaiting your Next Release from the ACs.."Kurukshetra"..it'll be interesting to know how you've treated the character of Suyodhan in the book & the events of the War..

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: KrisUdayasankar

Actually, there is one guy who pisses me off a little more than Dharma Yudhisthir does. I know I'm being provocative here, but just curious how many of us have a bone to pick with Bhisma Devavrata - Kashi, Gandhara - all his conquests in the name of finding wives for his brother/nephews sowed some pretty bitter seeds, no? Or is the wife-finding merely an excuse for what probably were political conquests/annexations - after all these were pretty prosperous nations, and the did put up a fight...

Your thoughts, folks?

I would kind of agree here with you Ma'am. Not that i have anything to do against Bhishma or his Dharm related Ideologies..nor do i consider him solely responsible for the war & destruction of the Kauravas..but what i did not like about Bhishma was the way he chose to stay quiet during the Dyut Sabha & watch it all in silence..the Vastra Haran of Draupadi. he was a part of that Injustice & humiliation just as much as Duryodhan & Dusshasan were! And this, when Bhishma was the only one who had both the power & strength to stop what was going on that day! No one would be able to fight against or defeat Bhishma had he taken a step forward to save Draupadi from the Disrobing! And of course..the Amba incident doesn't go in favour of Bhishma either..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: AnuMP

Has anyone read the new Telugu Draupadi novel? I heard there was move to ban it or something? What is the fuss all about?


Originally posted by: AnuMP

Ok, about that Telugu book which people are trying to ban. What is the offensive stuff? I am told it portrays Drau in a bad light, but how? There have been others like that and no one tries to ban those. So now my imagination is going crazy and I really want to know.


There is no English translation, so any Telugus here, can you give us a summary?


Anu..although i haven't read the book because its in Telugu & i do not know the language..i have read about some of the reasons that made the book so controversial & caused a series of protests seeking the banning of the book..despite of it having been honoured by the Sahitya Academy, are as hereunder. The book called "Draupadi" was written by Padmasree Yarlagadda Lakshmi Prasad - Rajya Sabha MP..

1. The book is said to have earned the wrath of the moral police because it has portions depicting Draupadi's "amorous nights" with her Pandava husbands. The book has culled her personality from five sensual nights she spends with each of the five Pandavas. The author's portrayal of Draupadi as a "sex maniac" & in a perverted manner, has been protested widely by Hindu Organizations across India. The book is also said to portray Draupadi as a woman who relishes sex with some partners but dislikes physical intimacy with others.

2. Its also said that the book indicates Draupadi's desire to marry and have sex with Karna. Draupadi's Liners in the book says: "I have been watching him practising the display of swords and other weapons. My body and mind craves his strong embrace." In the epic, however, Draupadi prevents Karna, who was one of her suitors at her swayamvara, from attempting to hit the fish-eye target with an arrow by saying she wouldn't marry a "sootaputra".

3. I've heard that the book also shows Draupadi luring Bheema with her charms to rise against his brothers and depicts her manipulating the powerful brother to fulfill her needs.

4. Further, Maharshi Vyasa , Karna, Kunti, Dritharastra and even Krishna are all portrayed to be obsessed with sex in the book. Every part of Draupadi's body has been described with titillating words. One chapter each has been devoted to the enjoyment of Draupadi by each one of the Pandavas. Kunti is supposed to be asking Draupadi whether she has been pleasing every one of the Pandavas extremely well and whether each one of them was satisfied with her!!

5. The author has not only showed Draupadi, Pandavas and Srikrishna in poor light in his book, but even introduced illicit amorous relationship between Draupadi and Srikrishna.
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Posted: 11 years ago

I wonder if you have read Pratibha Ray's 'Yajnaseni'. Rupa brought out the English translation of the original Oriya novel, which struck me as a sympathetic but balanced portrayal of Draupadi.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Abhijiat Basu, sir, I have read Yagyaseni. The book reads very lyrical, if that makes any sense.


Chandrika

The book sounds like po*n to me from that description. Wonder why the Academy chose to honor it, in spite of it? I really dont like portrayals of Drau which paint her in such a light and make her out to be the cause of war. They indulge in victim-bashing and almost always lack an explanation for Krishna's actions. Seems like intellectual dishonesty to me, since Krishna had as much, if not more, of a hand in Kurukshetra. And I cant help but connect it to all the victim bashing that goes on in India even now after recent events

Nevertheless, I am not in favor of banning books. Seems to me everyone is entitled to their own opinion, despicable though it may be.




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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: AnuMP

Abhijiat Basu, sir, I have read Yagyaseni. The book reads very lyrical, if that makes any sense.


Chandrika

The book sounds like po*n to me from that description. Wonder why the Academy chose to honor it, in spite of it? I really dont like portrayals of Drau which paint her in such a light and make her out to be the cause of war. They indulge in victim-bashing and almost always lack an explanation for Krishna's actions. Seems like intellectual dishonesty to me, since Krishna had as much, if not more, of a hand in Kurukshetra. And I cant help but connect it to all the victim bashing that goes on in India even now after recent events

Nevertheless, I am not in favor of banning books. Seems to me everyone is entitled to their own opinion, despicable though it may be.





I agree-banning a book, no matter how outrageous its subject matter is and/or how badly written it is, is not the the correct way of going about things I think, especially in a democracy like ours. Criticize it, publicly if you will, write scathing reviews about it, there are so many tools of protest. But banning and pulping books is going too far.

Although I'd like to think that a lot of times the ban backfires, a lot more people end up reading the book than those who would have picked it up without the ban.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: abhijitbasu

Hello Sir. I haven't read 'Yajnaseni', but i have decided to get the book ordered & read through it. A few of our members here who read it, did put up a briefing on it some time back though.

However, i have read 'Draupadi - The Fire Born Princess' by Nagpal Saraswati and i found it pretty interesting.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: AnuMP

Abhijiat Basu, sir, I have read Yagyaseni. The book reads very lyrical, if that makes any sense.


Chandrika

The book sounds like po*n to me from that description. Wonder why the Academy chose to honor it, in spite of it? I really dont like portrayals of Drau which paint her in such a light and make her out to be the cause of war. They indulge in victim-bashing and almost always lack an explanation for Krishna's actions. Seems like intellectual dishonesty to me, since Krishna had as much, if not more, of a hand in Kurukshetra. And I cant help but connect it to all the victim bashing that goes on in India even now after recent events

Nevertheless, I am not in favor of banning books. Seems to me everyone is entitled to their own opinion, despicable though it may be.




Anu..your feedback on the book 'Yajnaseni' was valuable. Post that i was in two minds if i should read it or not! But now i have decided to give the book a go anyways..

For the Controversial Book on Draupadi..well, i'm not too sure that banning the book is a solution either! The author denied having been vulgar in his book..according to him, its a work of pure fiction & he's written his own version of the character of Draupadi! Creative Freedom..alright, i do understand that to a certain extent..but there's a line one needs to draw somewhere!! I couldn't agree more with you, when reading those few discussed & argued aspects from the book alone, made you feel like po*n!! I was equally shocked & pretty much disgusted at the treatment of an Epic character like Draupadi!!

Victim bashing? Very true..those parts from the book made me feel like a typical male chauvinist ideology being portrayed..where a woman is written off in such bad light & her actions justified for war! A woman sacrifices her life, goes through so much pain, molestation & humiliation and yet decides to fight it out for her dignity..and then gets bashed & written about in such a manner..how justified is that!? I hate such character assassinations..and reading such a portrayal of an inspirational character like Draupadi, kills me!! I do not understand how a book like that could be selected for an Akademi award??!! I hope that's not the kind of ideologies India is trying to develop in its people!!

By the way, the English translated version of the book is available online now..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: luv_sakshi


It must be interesting, because the uniqueness of Draupadi contributes largely to the uniqueness of the Mb. It boggles imagination to think that such a woman was there (and there must have been a real proto-historic person at the root of such an exceptionally endowed epic character), in those primeval times when Kshatriya machismo and Brahminical orthodoxy ruled the roost. Venerated as one of the pancakanyaa, she in fact overshadows even the illustrious Sita in the sheer richness of the many nuances that adorn her unique persona: a magnetically attractive woman with what in today's parlance can only be called the 'oomph factor'; an exemplary wife and homemaker; a lady with the rare courage to stand alone and face a whole patriarchal court; a profoundly cultured and articulate person, who engages Krshna and Yudhishthira in philosophic discourses and whose 'laments' are as good as any in the genre of classic laments; and a woman of incinerating wrath, whose all-consuming hunger for vengeance destroys a whole generation of Kshatriyas. But she is also the saddest of all tragedy queens the world's classics have known -- the woman whose thirst for revenge ultimately reduces herself to an inconsolable mother, grieving the gory nocturnal murder of all her five sons. What a lady indeed!

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