Whats the LOGIC behind this so called marriage?/ DT's NT pg 4 - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nupur9


I understand & agree with what you are saying.
The larger good is fine but why did the brothers NOT take a vow to have Draupadi as their ONLY wife when they were so offering her as an oblation to the greater good?
Why didn't they say they would be the one woman man & always protect her and love her.
They went out & took many wives, specially Arjun.

well they had to take other wives for reasons like forming alliances with other kingdoms.In any case if they didnt take other wives what was each brother to do for the 4 years Drauapdi wasnt their wife?
Besides i dont understnad how taking or not taking other wives will effect the greator good
Also wanted to add whether or not we believe previous birth things is a separate matter but we cant just disregard it becuase epic does mentione it .It mentions about shiv jis' boon to Drauapdi and that fact that the pandavas were indira's in previous birth and Drauapdi their common wife sachi hence they were soulmates who were bound to get married.Whether we believe this or not but we cant discard the fact that epic does say this and hence justifies this marriage
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i would like to thank all the members who shared their valuable explanation to me and to all the people who are like me ,having the same questions.

Now here i have enlightned by the story birth ,where she asked for a man with certain qualities which were not available in one man ,but then like we all have previous birth ,but we if anything happens to us in this birth ,we cant give explanations like this is result of previous birth ...nways i cant say much ...


Coming to the point of greater good ,of hastinapur ,the future of raj singhasan ,she did it ,i agree but my whole problem is with YUDHISTER ,he was the one who was leading the whole mess,i m sure due to yudi being his elder bro like a father ,arjun coudnt say anything to him,otherwise he would convinced his brothers...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Shikhandi's story is too explained by previous birth as Amba ... Here too, Siva was the one to give Amba the boon.
So either Shiva did gave the boon to Nalyani or no battle happened between Bhishma and Parshuram and no lord shiva gave any boon to Amba?😕 complicates things much if you demystify it?

And if previous birth boons are not true, or not believable enough, then Abhimanyu, Karna, Kauravas being demons in previous birth is dismissed so is Lord Krishna's birth.

With that, the 6 sons of Kunti being sons of Gods is dismissed, and Gandhari's boon from lord Shiva for hundred sons too, which is quite unbelievable and bizarre, anyways.😕😕
Edited by medha00 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mahabharata is not just about Dhram it is also about A-Dharm .. just because it happened it doe snot become correct .. just like Ram asked Sit ago leave his home.. it did not become an accepted thing .. and
AS Krishna said - Ye Adharm hai air A-Dharm her rahega
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ritzie

I think its not about logic. Probably, Vedvyas was a more rebelious writer who wanted to give a different thinking to society. For example, if it is not adharam for Krishana to have 36000 wives then its okay for Draupadi to have 5 husbands. Vedvyas used Krishana as God's mouthpiece so that his book is not banned.


You do realize you are taking don't you?

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Edited by mnx12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The Makers are trying to show the Logic behind this marriage. All of us have our own reasons & undrsanding of this marriage, some may agree, some may not. But the fact is we are watching an already written story. We can't change anything out of that. Analysing this epic in a neutral way will surely helpin finding some answers.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shripadk


You do realize you are taking don't you?


I don't understand what do you mean by that. Is it something like "Tumhe paap lagega"?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ritzie


I don't understand what do you mean by that. Is it something like "Tumhe paap lagega"?


No. All I'm saying is that you analyzing things your way is ok. I have no issues with that. But when you start analyzing someone else's mind then I believe it is taking things too far. You said "Ved Vyas used Krishna as God's mouthpiece so that his book is not banned"... what do you mean by that? How could you come to that conclusion (unless Ved Vyas told you so personally 😛)? And ban by whom? Ved Vyas was Lord Vishnu's partial incarnation... who has the capability or the authority to ban his work? And why should Ved Vyas be worried about someone banning his work when the intention of writing the story was to convey what had actually happened. If he was worried about banning then he would have never written about Draupadi's vastraharan!

If you find having 16108 odd wives (and not 36000) or 5 husbands out of the ordinary then what do you say about existence of dinosaurs millions of years ago? 😆

And you need to research on why Krishna had to marry 16108 wives and why Draupadi had to marry 5 husbands.

Also while we are talking about the reason behind this I would like to also address what @TheWatcher said.

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

If you want to get the logic behind this marriage then you must not consider draupadi's previous birth, I find these explanations stupid which add previous birth stories to explain something, if you want to add every previous birth stories then the killing of Abhimanyu is justified 100% and none is to blame.


@TheWatcher Again nonsense. If you say I won't bother about previous birth stories then don't bother reading the scriptures as Hinduism's basic tenet is cycles of birth and death and how to attain Moksha. If you don't understand this basic thing then you are reading/watching Mahabharat for entertainment value and not for understanding Sanathan Dharma.

Read up on Gajendra Moksha on why Karma of previous births are binding on current ones and about liberation.

EDIT: And no killing of Abhimanyu is not and cannot be justified by previous birth stories. In fact the bad Karma in your previous birth gets carried on to your next birth. If you make mistakes again then you are going to carry more burden forward. Thats Hinduism for you... its just. I'm not trying to bring down other religions but this is the fundamental difference...
Your good karma does not nullify your bad karma.

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Edited by mnx12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shripadk


No. All I'm saying is that you analyzing things your way is ok. I have no issues with that. But when you start analyzing someone else's mind then I believe it is taking things too far. You said "Ved Vyas used Krishna as God's mouthpiece so that his book is not banned"... what do you mean by that? How could you come to that conclusion (unless Ved Vyas told you so personally 😛)? And ban by whom?

Ved Vyas was Lord Vishnu's partial incarnation... who has the capability or the authority to ban his work?
If people accept that VedVyas was Lord Vishnu's partial incarnation then we need to accept what he says as it is - no questions asked.😆 I think it from a different rational. What if Mahabharat was actually just a story like Harry Potter where the narrator was the part of story itself. Over the years (like in Chinese whisper game) the characters became real and the stories were distorted by everybody's own logic. Does anybody has the original version by Vedvyas? Again, these are the questions that are not answered if you try to find logic.


And why should Ved Vyas be worried about someone banning his work when the intention of writing the story was to convey what had actually happened. If he was worried about banning then he would have never written about Draupadi's vastraharan!
This is the logic here. He was a narrator of an interesting story and he is building up the story to make it interesting and the thing is some of the incidents that he has made part of his story were controversial like one girl marrying 5 husbands. Draupadi's vastraharan was the ignition point for Mahabharat.

If you find having 16108 odd wives (and not 36000) or 5 husbands out of the ordinary then what do you say about existence of dinosaurs millions of years ago? 😆
- Yes, I know i didn't get the figure right.😆 How are they related even?

And you need to research on why Krishna had to marry 16108 wives and why Draupadi had to marry 5 husbands.
- There could be any reasons but whatever the reason was; the end result remains the fact "one person marrying multiple people"

Also while we are talking about the reason behind this I would like to also address what @TheWatcher said.
Sure. I just think the previous birth reasons are just like making Krishan as mouthpiece of god. Common people do not accept Not-so-normal behavior so, if you involve unknowns like "God" and "previous birth logics" which nobody understands, they start accepting things😆. BTW that's how all the famous saint survive🤣


Edited by Ritzie - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Shripadk
First of all I don't want a person like you explaining me Hinduism, your explanation was the stupidest thing I've ever heard ( Unless you plan to go beyond it), I don't really think you are a Hinduism scholar and who are you to stop me from reading Hinduism scriptures, A guy who thinks he has read the original scriptures is stupid, every scripture in Hinduism is altered heavily by the translators, you should really learn to accept that what you read is not 100% true, if you do not wish to accept that it is not altered you can happily keep living in your bubble.
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