Arjun-Draupadi - Page 14

Everyone knows that Arjun n Draupadi didn't have any love story before Swamvar...But this isn't the first distortion, right? There have been many before, so I guess no use complaining abt their non-existent pre-swamvar love story...

Originally posted by: ashwi_d

You are quite right. Maybe Draupadi did harbour a secret partiality towards Arjun, but it is also possible that she did not. The reason being that it is Yudisthir who expresses this in the end. There are many Mahabharat aficionados (myself included) who consider this as Yudisthir's subjective opinion, as there is no evidence otherwise in the epic (as per my knowledge) to substantiate the argument that Draupadi was partial to Arjun.

Somebody has mentioned this in another thread too.

If Starbharat is taking Yudisthir's word for it, it is fine. But over-dramatising as if it were some epic love story or something is just cringeworthy.

Originally posted by: smrth

Many ways to look at this very important and 'revealing' dialogue. I attempt two way approach- 1) From Author's POV; If Ved Vyas is specifically putting this information at the epilogue conclusion of his most important female character, it carries the gravity of author's own conception- about his creation. 2) If we take character specific position as to how Yudhisthir was 'reacting', then take into account that character's foremost trait or its effects as per the tale. Yudhistir does not lie even in self 'opinions'. He is showed as losing half his stature at mere half truth. While here he walks, all 'cleared', all the way to heaven. And this was a statement to a specific questions. Here, if his explanations about other 'four' falls are taken as valid 'dharmik' reasons, then how not the fifth? The point is, he has not lied here either...

After this, instead of dismissing it as Yudhisthir's 'subjective opinion' why won't it be taken as an objective part of the narration which it in fact is? Actually this dismissal ( Yudhisthir's 'subjective'...) itself appears more subjective and individual opinion- complying one's wish to see her not partial at any count...denying the very 'objectivity' of the text!

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

what yudi said in the end was his own opinion or actually what draupadi felt we dont know its every one's interpretation but even if what he said was how draupadi actually felt and all this non existent love story between arjun an draupadi is being shown just to justify that one line that yudi says at the end of the epic why aren't they trying to justify the fact that when in trouble draupadi always used to go to bheem whether it be keechak's case or the golden flower case in the exile. now before some one says that draupadi doesnt know about other pandavas all i am saying is yesterday the way they showed the episode it seems as if she has some special connection and relation ship with arjun and not her other future husbands which isnt true .This is not only distortion but also disrespecting drayupadi's relation with her oher husbands .just like they showed arjun they could have shown other panadvas as well.i really hope they dont continue this after marriage i can handle fictional tracks but not disrespect to characters.Closing my argument now

Originally posted by: smrth

Many ways to look at this very important and 'revealing' dialogue. I attempt two way approach- 1) From Author's POV; If Ved Vyas is specifically putting this information at the epilogue conclusion of his most important female character, it carries the gravity of author's own perception- about his creation. 2) If we take character specific position as to how Yudhisthir was 'reacting', then take into account that character's foremost trait or its effects as per the tale. Yudhistir does not lie even in self 'opinions'. He is showed as losing half his stature at mere half truth. While here he walks, all 'cleared', all the way to heaven. His reply was a statement to a specific questions. Here, if his explanations about other 'four' falls are taken as valid 'dharmik' reasons, then how not the fifth? The point is, he has not lied here either...

After this, instead of dismissing it as Yudhisthir's 'subjective opinion' why should it be not taken as an objective part of the narration which, in fact it is? Actually this dismissal ( Yudhisthir's 'subjective'...) itself appears more subjective and individual opinion- complying one's wish to see her not partial at any count...denying the very 'objectivity' of the text!

Originally posted by: ashwi_d

I think we must agree to disagree on this. Lying and having an opinion are two different things. If I say I believe that Draupadi was not partial to Arjun, it is my personal opinion, and there is no question of lying or telling the truth. I do not proclaim it as the ultimate truth either. Hence Yudisthir, while reasoning and rationalizing the deaths of his brothers and wife expresses his own honest opinion, which even though may be wrong in reality, does not count as lying.

I do not take the other explanations behind the falling down of others as 'dharmik' truths either.

Apart from the fact that there is no evidence otherwise in the text to prove conclusively that Draupadi favoured Arjun, I have another reason to support my argument. In a time when polyandrous marriages were uncommon, don't you think that favouring one husband above the others is somewhat an arbitrary 'sin'? I am not going into the ethics of the issue as per today's moral standards, but it seems unlikely to me that there were rules about a phenomenon (polyandry) which was rare in itself.

All in all I respect your opinion, and do not rule out your understanding of the entire episode in the epic. Like I said before, your interpretation is possible as well 😊

Originally posted by: amritat

It is common knowledge that Arjun preferred Subhadra the most. Although many people disagree. As for me knowing it, I dnt no if it is written in exact words in Ved Vyas' Mahabharat or not, coz I haven't read the original poem. However, there are some indications like Arjun bringing Subhadra to Indraprastha, despite Draupadi's conditions, his violent retaliation after Abhimanyu's death and somewhat passive behaviour after Srutakirti's death, etc. Although one can always come up with counter explanations, but it is usually believed that Arjun loved Subhadra the most. Now whether it is true or not, there is probably no way to find out.