Reality????? - Page 2

Originally posted by: SayaneeH.Lecter

beautiful post.. at the very beginning you said the ultimate truth .. history is written by winners to glorify winners as well as to demean who lose .. if durya was an ultimate villain he wouldn't have spoke against caste-ism .. not once he did it in several moments and I found there is a temple of Dury in Kerala for the same reason .. a friend like Duryadhan is a priceless possession to one

had Yudhisthir that good he would never ever bet his wife, was pandavas true valiant they were not so mum in the game of dice ..

undoubtedly Mahabharat is written supporting winners trying to mask truths sometime with supernatural stories sometime imposed one dimensional perspective of dharma ..

still as it is a literature truth is bound to be out there .. may be with the veil of allegory or metaphor .. authors do it often to save truth for future .. they expect readers in future will develop an eye to see and a mind to think with logic

But with time often stories become religion then asking conventional thoughts becomes an taboo .. we see it everywhere but still people do .. still human beings with illusion-free mind seek for the truth behind the words and find it .. don't know religious belief is stronger or the human rationality only can expect future wont go by the book but will try to dig the truth out and when religion will be synonymous to Truth n humanity .. only

Originally posted by: satiisparvati

Also story is written by Veda Vyas Ji not Pandavs themselves. Both kauravs and Pandavs were his grandchildren. I think he told the story the way it was and the way society was 5000 years ago. The fact is human nature is same throughout time.

Originally posted by: rIDhid3rox

Nice post but i cannot completely agree with Mahabharat written completely supporting the winners...yes,i do agree that duryodhan had a good side by going against casteism...but lets not forget he did that for his own selfish reasons ...only after he got to know to that karna was a great warrior and an excellent competition for arjun he decided to lend him his friendship...

Basically i feel mahabharat highlights the duties of a human, righteousness of a human being ,how each one should respect each other ,living in harmony etc which was definitely followed by the pandavas ...

And history highlights only the moral winners who throughout their life has sacrificed for the betterment of others physically, socially, politically, economically, or environmentally.

In mahabharat duryodhan was always selfish and had a thirst for the throne which yudhistir never had ...had it been that yudhistir would have never voluntereed infront of bheesma to give up his yuvraj position for duryodhan so that atleast then he starts following dharma..

Originally posted by: mannu_minnie

Ved Vyas wrote after the war. right????

Originally posted by: mannu_minnie

I agree with u about Shakuni being at fault but more than that I find Gandhari at fault. When you know in advance that you will have to raise 101 children why would you blindfold your eyes. I feel motherhood trumps everything in life.

Originally posted by: satiisparvati

this is newest point of view.

she blindfolded herself as a wife then only she became a mother. be it Ramayan or Mahabharat-Husband is always considered first. for Kaushalaya for Gandhari for sita, for Draupadi.

Originally posted by: nanda_gopa

Any story can be interpreted from a number of perspectives. Each reader typically interprets a story from her or his perspective.

For instance, it can be interpreted that Duryodhan accepted Karna because he wanted a skilled warrior (who could match Arjuna) by his side. Another interpretation is that he was against caste divisions. If this was the case, then why treat Draupadi as a slave? Why not fight to reform society by repealing all caste divisions? He was the son of "Samrat Drithirashtra"! He was not entirely powerless.

It seems that there are competing interests and ideas in each of our minds. By following the path of "dharma" we have to select the most appropriate path. This is obviously not a simple thing and requires conquering one's mind. And this struggle is eternal.

Originally posted by: satiisparvati

Yes that is true. What was his purpose though just to tell a story to glorify winners or to tell a story to warn future generations. It is thru his story we know how great Karan was, how great friendship between Karan and Durhyodhan was. He Ved Vyas Ji wanted to glorify only Pandavs why even mention these relationships. Nor didi he omitt Yudister playing dice and betting his wife. I feel He fairly wrote about all sides and it is up to reader to feel empathy with whomever the reader likes.