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Posted: 11 years ago
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it is usually said that the famous versions of the stories are the Winner's version. This mahabharat is also a winner's (Pandavas) version of the story.

For instance i never accept one thing that parents can name their children which are not gud like Duryodhan- means a bad warrior. Dushashan means a bad administrator.


this is really confusing isn't it. because Balram as a teacher always liked Duryodhan more than Bheem. He even wanted Subhadra to marry Duryodhan.

Duryodhan even accepted Karan despite his caste.

Yudhistir who is considered as the son of Dharamraj used to love playing "Jua".


is watever shown a reality??????

BTW this serial is showing Dhritrashtra and Gandhari in very bad light. they were not tat bad. Gadhari was always portrayed as very nice lady.


By the way Mahabharat had many issues which are prevalent now also.

one of them is Casteism. Karan Despite being the best warrior was not acceptable and always addressed as Sut-Putra.

Second was about eloping. it was neither accepted that times nor now. Rukmi even fought against the army who had Krishna. Balram was very angry on Arjun after he eloped with Subhdra.

third women's condition. Sati was prevalent at tat times and wat happened to Draupadi

Isn't it strange. most of hindus love Krishna. But they hate love marriages. and they love Krishna-Rukmini eloping tales.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Duryodhan or Dussasan doesn't mean something bad.

'Duh' means hard/tough in Sanskrit.Literally, Duryodhana means "hard to conquer".

Similarly Duhshasan means one who cannot be commanded.

Have you read the entire Mahabharat written by Ved Vyas!?😳I'm asking coz it is difficult to judge the characters from few popular tales.Even I'm not completely aware of the vast depictions given in this epic poem.
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Originally posted by: Cool-n-Fresh


Duryodhan or Dussasan doesn't mean something bad.

'Duh' means hard/tough in Sanskrit.Literally, Duryodhana means "hard to conquer".

Similarly Duhshasan means one who cannot be commanded.

Have you read the entire Mahabharat written by Ved Vyas!?😳I'm asking coz it is diffcult to judge the characters from few popular tales.



we used to read short version in 7th class. yup it's difficult.
thanks for clarifying. but in many cases like Durupyog it means bad, isn't it. we used to read Sandhi viched in Hindi where the meaning of Dur was always taken for bad.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mannu_minnie



we used to read short version in 7th class. yup it's difficult.
thanks for clarifying. but in many cases like Durupyog it means bad, isn't it. we used to read Sandhi viched in Hindi where the meaning of Dur was always taken for bad.


In Sanskrit words can have numerous meanings.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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To the fact we actually don't know what happened 5000 years ago.
whether Duryodana was bad
or yudi was too good.
As per now Ved Vyas version root of Mb who ever written what ever other versions may be.

but considering about humanity of characters it is up to you deceiper how you interpt a character.

For me Krishna is love.
He preached love. but people hate love marrages that is their own reasons .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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beautiful post.. at the very beginning you said the ultimate truth .. history is written by winners to glorify winners as well as to demean who lose .. if durya was an ultimate villain he wouldn't have spoke against caste-ism .. not once he did it in several moments and I found there is a temple of Dury in Kerala for the same reason .. a friend like Duryadhan is a priceless possession to one

had Yudhisthir that good he would never ever bet his wife, was pandavas true valiant they were not so mum in the game of dice ..

undoubtedly Mahabharat is written supporting winners trying to mask truths sometime with supernatural stories sometime imposed one dimensional perspective of dharma ..

still as it is a literature truth is bound to be out there .. may be with the veil of allegory or metaphor .. authors do it often to save truth for future .. they expect readers in future will develop an eye to see and a mind to think with logic

But with time often stories become religion then asking conventional thoughts becomes an taboo .. we see it everywhere but still people do .. still human beings with illusion-free mind seek for the truth behind the words and find it .. don't know religious belief is stronger or the human rationality only can expect future wont go by the book but will try to dig the truth out and when religion will be synonymous to Truth n humanity .. only
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anyway Duryadhan had another meaning i.e. who is hard to conquer .. and his name was Suyodhana at beginning that means who is a good commander or who rules good
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post but i cannot completely agree with Mahabharat written completely supporting the winners...yes,i do agree that duryodhan had a good side by going against casteism...but lets not forget he did that for his own selfish reasons ...only after he got to know to that karna was a great warrior and an excellent competition for arjun he decided to lend him his friendship...
Basically i feel mahabharat highlights the duties of a human, righteousness of a human being ,how each one should respect each other ,living in harmony etc which was definitely followed by the pandavas ...
And history highlights only the moral winners who throughout their life has sacrificed for the betterment of others physically, socially, politically, economically, or environmentally.
In mahabharat duryodhan was always selfish and had a thirst for the throne which yudhistir never had ...had it been that yudhistir would have never voluntereed infront of bheesma to give up his yuvraj position for duryodhan so that atleast then he starts following dharma..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Any story can be interpreted from a number of perspectives. Each reader typically interprets a story from her or his perspective.
For instance, it can be interpreted that Duryodhan accepted Karna because he wanted a skilled warrior (who could match Arjuna) by his side. Another interpretation is that he was against caste divisions. If this was the case, then why treat Draupadi as a slave? Why not fight to reform society by repealing all caste divisions? He was the son of "Samrat Drithirashtra"! He was not entirely powerless.
It seems that there are competing interests and ideas in each of our minds. By following the path of "dharma" we have to select the most appropriate path. This is obviously not a simple thing and requires conquering one's mind. And this struggle is eternal.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Also story is written by Veda Vyas Ji not Pandavs themselves. Both kauravs and Pandavs were his grandchildren. I think he told the story the way it was and the way society was 5000 years ago. The fact is human nature is same throughout time.

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