Originally posted by: BeautifulBillo
Erm Sri Krishna called Duri the most evil man on earth in the MB
So are we questioning God's judgement too now???
Krishna's eyes blazed again, "You are no innocent, Duryodhana. You are the most evil man that draws breath in this world. Why do you try to deceive us, or is it yourself you need to deceive? Or do your sins weigh on you so heavily that you no longer know what dharma is? That you no longer see right from wrong, good from evil, darkness from light?" They all shifted uneasily in their places to hear him; no conscience in that sabha, save Vidura's, was clear. Krishna said, "Duryodhana, you are beneath contempt," and fell silent.
Menon, Ramesh (2006-07-20). THE MAHABHARATA: A Modern Rendering, Vol 2 iUniverse. Kindle Edition.
And even if someone does not believe in god or does not believe in Krishna, it is not very hard to see that Duryodhna was not good nor nor fair.
I mean i can find so many faults in the statement that "he was fair" that it hurts my head.
He deceived the Pandavas throughout the gambling match.
Decieved his own father by telling him that he just wants to send away the Pandavas and Kunti for sometime while he was planning to murder his cousins and Kunti behind his back.
Shakuni was not the one who raised Duryodhna, he had his own kids to worry about.
Shakuni was never the one to put ideas in Duryodhnas mind.
Duryodhna was the one who came up with heinous plans and Shakuni, Karna, Dushasan were always their to do everything to please their 'LORD'.
Shakuni only helped him in executing his plans.
Duryodhna wanted Indraprastha, not Shakuni.
Duryodhna was jealous of the Pandavas and their kingdom and wealth. Shakuni helped in acquiring it.
Do all sweet little children who get bullied by cousins, decide that the best way to get back would be Poison them and throw them in the river?
No! they complain to their parents.
Shakuni was not even involved in the poisoning.
Shakuni didnt teach Duryodhna to make lewd perverted gestures at his sister-in-law.
Next time, when you get startled by someone( Especially your relative) tripping in front you and end up laughing, DO NOT ACCEPT AN INVITATION from this relative for he might try to humiliate you and strip you naked in his home in front of his guest.
If he really was so fair, why was he pouting and whining around like a brat threatening that he will poison himself, hang himself, enter in fire etc etc. if Pandavas came back from the exile?
There were some rules that he had agreed to when Pandavas were sent to exile.
What did Duryodhna do? He 'DESPAIRED' that Pandavas will come back for their own Kingdom() and Karna couldn't take his Lord being so upset so he told them that :-
They all will gear up and march to the forest on their chariots. They will QUITELY kill the Pandavas.
Only after that will Duryodhna and all of them will have peace while the Pandavas will "disappear" on some unknown journey forever.
They will be a match for the pandavas as long as PANDAVAS WERE IN DESPAIR AND WITHOUT HELP.
If Duryodhna really was so fair then why did he agreed and they were stopped on their way by Ved Vyas.
Duryodhna was a growna** man, not some simpleton toddler. He was adult enough to have a mind of his own.
No Shakuni, Gandhari and Pitamah had control over him.
"If ever I behold the sons of Pritha return to the city, I shall again be emaciated by renouncing food and drink, even though there be no obstacle in my path! And I shall either take poison or hang myself, either enter the pyre or kill myself with my own weapons. But I shall never be able to behold the sons of Pandu in prosperity!
"Sakuni said, 'O king, O lord of the earth, what folly hath taken possession of thee! The Pandavas have gone to the forest, having given a particular pledge, so that what thou apprehendest can never take place! O bull of the Bharata race, the Pandavas ever abide by the truth. They will never, therefore, accept the words of thy father! If however, accepting the commands of the king, they come back to the capital, violating their vow, even this would be our conduct, viz., assuming, an aspect of neutrality, and in apparent obedience to the will of the monarch, we will closely watch the Pandavas, keeping our counsels!'
p. 19
"Dussasana said, 'O uncle of great intelligence, it is even as thou sayest! The words of wisdom thou utterest always recommend themselves to me!'"Karna said, 'O Duryodhana, all of us seek to accomplish thy will and, O king, I see that unanimity at present prevaileth among us! The sons of Pandu, with passions under complete control, will never return without passing away the promised period. If, however, they do return from failing sense, do thou defeat them again at dice.'
"Vaisampayana said, 'Thus addressed by Karna, king Duryodhana with cheerless heart, averted his face from his counsellors. Marking all this, Karna expanding his beautiful eyes, and vehemently gesticulating in anger, haughtily addressed Duryodhana and Dussasana and Suvala's son saying, 'Ye princes, know ye my opinion! We are all servants of the king (Duryodhana) waiting upon him with joined palms! We should, therefore, do what is agreeable to him! But we are not always able to seek his welfare with promptness and activity (owing to our dependence on Dhritarashtra)! But let us now, encased in mail and armed with our weapons, mount our cars and go in a body to slay the Pandavas now living in the forest! After the Pandavas have been quieted and after they have gone on the unknown journey, both ourselves and the sons of Dhritarashtra will find peace! As long as they are in distress, as long as they are in sorrow, as long as they are destitute of help, so long are we a match for them! This is my mind!'
'Hearing those words of the charioteer's son, they repeatedly applauded him, and at last exclaimed, 'Very well!' And saying this each of them mounted his car, and sanguine of success, they rushed in a body to slay the sons of Pandu. And knowing by his spiritual vision that they had gone out, the master Krishna-Dwaipayana of pure soul came upon them, and commanded them to desist. And sending them away, the holy one, worshipped by all the worlds, quickly appeared before the king whose intelligence served the purposes of eye-sight, and who was then seated (at his ease). And the holy one addressed the monarch thus.'"
Edited by Medha.S - 11 years ago