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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rakshaanra


Final goal is same hmmm

So if I want to fly to India, I can close me eyes and any flight will take me there? 😳

Teleportaion, yes, provided you are a developed soul up to this level.😆
This part explains more about how it is possible.

Kundalini

The Kundalini awakening is an important step in Yoga. It is the energy lying dormant at the root chakra, when awakened, uncoils and begin to rise upwards like a fiery serpent, breaking upon each chakra as she ascends, until the Shakti merges with Shiv in Sahastrara chakra.

As kundalini reaches each chakra, that lotus opens and lift its flower; and as soon as she leaves for a higher chakra, the lotus closes its petals and hangs down, symbolizing the activation of the energies of the chakra and their assimilation to kundalini.
When it reaches the Agya chakra, 3rd eye is developed, one can see the past, present & future events. Then it reaches the Brhmarandhra where Kundalini unites with the Shiv resulting in their Union which opens up the Sahastrar chakra the region of divine.

The Chakras are energy centres of the human body, considered flower like, which opens & closes as well as spins like wheels. They are the receiver of the spiritual Universal energy & the centres through which human body deciphers energy. There are seven major chakras ,located along the central line of the body or the spinal chord, the lowest at the root of the tailbone. The Universal energy enters the body through these chakras & flows upwords from the lower to the higher chakras. The higher chakras are more spiritually functioning, related to experiencing the union of the individual with the whole creation. Each chakra vibrates with different frequencies & have their individual characteristics.
7 Chakras

1. Muladhara Chakra or the root chakra, located at the base of the spine, develoes physical activities, is Red in colour, is a 4 petal Lotus.

2. Swadhisthan Chakra is located at the navel region, is related to creativity, fertility, intimacy, reproductive ability & emotional balance is Orange in colour is a 6 petal Lotus.

3. Manipura Chakra is located in bteween navel & heart is associated with self esteem, confidence & personality development is Yellow in colour

4. Anahata chakra is located at the centre of the heart is connected to the feeling of love, joy, happiness, respect, compassion, generocity etc. is Green or Pink in colour.

5. Vishuddha Chakra is located in the throat is related to speech ability & truthfulness, is light blue in colour.

6. Agya Chakra is situated in the position of the 3rd eye, developes intuition & sense of vision is centre of wisdom is Indigo in colour.

7. Sahastrara chakra is located at the top of the head, is associated with connecting to the Universal energy is a thousand petal Lotus.

Sahasrara: Crown Chakra (Top of the head )
Traditionally one's connection to the divine (Atmic level of divinity), contains programs to be used by 8th chakra including the release of basic psychic skills - Telepathy, seeing Aura, Lucid Dreaming, Out of Body Travel, Healing

8 to 12 are the Spritual chakras, gets developed as the jeeva developes more spiritually.
Chakra 8: Energy center of divine love, of spiritual compassion and spiritual selflessness, one's karmic residue, activates spiritual skills contained in the seventh chakra.

Chakra 9: Soul blueprint - The individual's total skills and abilities, learned in all the life times

Chakra 10: Divine creativity, synchronicity of life; the merging of the masculine and feminine within, unlocking of skills contained in the ninth chakra.

Chakra 11: Pathwork to the Soul, the individual's ability to acquire advanced spiritual skills. Travel beyond the limits of Time and Space, Teleportation, Bi-location, Instantaneous precipitation of thoughts, Telekinesis in some cases

Chakra 12: Connection to the Monadic level of divinity, advanced spiritual skills, ascension, connection to the cosmos and beyond.

Edited by mnx12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: mnx12

Teleportaion, yes, provided you are a developed soul up to this level.😆

This part explains more about how it is possible.

Kundalini

The Kundalini awakening is an important step in Yoga. It is the energy lying dormant at the root chakra, when awakened, uncoils and begin to rise upwards like a fiery serpent, breaking upon each chakra as she ascends, until the Shakti merges with Shiv in Sahastrara chakra.

As kundalini reaches each chakra, that lotus opens and lift its flower; and as soon as she leaves for a higher chakra, the lotus closes its petals and hangs down, symbolizing the activation of the energies of the chakra and their assimilation to kundalini.
When it reaches the Agya chakra, 3rd eye is developed, one can see the past, present & future events. Then it reaches the Brhmarandhra where Kundalini unites with the Shiv resulting in their Union which opens up the Sahastrar chakra the region of divine.

The Chakras are energy centres of the human body, considered flower like, which opens & closes as well as spins like wheels. They are the receiver of the spiritual Universal energy & the centres through which human body deciphers energy. There are seven major chakras ,located along the central line of the body or the spinal chord, the lowest at the root of the tailbone. The Universal energy enters the body through these chakras & flows upwords from the lower to the higher chakras. The higher chakras are more spiritually functioning, related to experiencing the union of the individual with the whole creation. Each chakra vibrates with different frequencies & have their individual characteristics.
7 Chakras

1. Muladhara Chakra or the root chakra, located at the base of the spine, develoes physical activities, is Red in colour, is a 4 petal Lotus.

2. Swadhisthan Chakra is located at the navel region, is related to creativity, fertility, intimacy, reproductive ability & emotional balance is Orange in colour is a 6 petal Lotus.

3. Manipura Chakra is located in bteween navel & heart is associated with self esteem, confidence & personality development is Yellow in colour

4. Anahata chakra is located at the centre of the heart is connected to the feeling of love, joy, happiness, respect, compassion, generocity etc. is Green or Pink in colour.

5. Vishuddha Chakra is located in the throat is related to speech ability & truthfulness, is light blue in colour.

6. Agya Chakra is situated in the position of the 3rd eye, developes intuition & sense of vision is centre of wisdom is Indigo in colour.

7. Sahastrara chakra is located at the top of the head, is associated with connecting to the Universal energy is a thousand petal Lotus.

Sahasrara: Crown Chakra (Top of the head )
Traditionally one's connection to the divine (Atmic level of divinity), contains programs to be used by 8th chakra including the release of basic psychic skills - Telepathy, seeing Aura, Lucid Dreaming, Out of Body Travel, Healing

8 to 12 are the Spritual chakras, gets developed as the jeeva developes more spiritually.
Chakra 8: Energy center of divine love, of spiritual compassion and spiritual selflessness, one's karmic residue, activates spiritual skills contained in the seventh chakra.

Chakra 9: Soul blueprint - The individual's total skills and abilities, learned in all the life times

Chakra 10: Divine creativity, synchronicity of life; the merging of the masculine and feminine within, unlocking of skills contained in the ninth chakra.

Chakra 11: Pathwork to the Soul, the individual's ability to acquire advanced spiritual skills. Travel beyond the limits of Time and Space, Teleportation, Bi-location, Instantaneous precipitation of thoughts, Telekinesis in some cases

Chakra 12: Connection to the Monadic level of divinity, advanced spiritual skills, ascension, connection to the cosmos and beyond.

It is said that once the Kundalini ascends to the sahasrara chakra and merges with the cosmicpower (Shiva) the person attains self realisation and transceds beyond the worldly limitations. The part about the chakras beyond the seventh is new to me 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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^^
8-12 are Spiritual chakras. They get activated after Sahastara chakra.
Once Kundalini reaches Sahastrara chakra, in the Brhmarandhra, union of Shiv-Shakti & the soul, who joins Kundalini from Agya chakra, is achieved, Kundalini does come back to Muladhar chakra. The yogi can repeate this through practice & reach a state of Nirvikalpa Samadhi.
He can then reach an advance stage where just by mere thought, without putting much effort he can be in Samadhi. This is a state of a Sidhha.
Edited by mnx12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: mnx12

^^

8-12 are Spiritual chakras. They get activated after Sahastara chakra.
Once Kundalini reaches Sahastrara chakra, in the Brhmarandhra, union of Shiv-Shakti & the soul, who joins Kundalini from Agya chakra, is achieved, Kundalini does come back to Muladhar chakra. The yogi can repeate this through practice & reach a state of Nirvikalpa Samadhi.
He can then reach an advance stage where just by mere thought, without putting much effort he can be in Samadhi. This is a state of a Sidhha.



Do you think anyone has jagrit his Kundilini??? Like Gautaum Budhh and Guru Nanak Devji may be they did jagrit their Kundilini

They say if you want to do this then you must take siddhi from your guru without it by mere meditation your kundlini will never Jagrit.

Baba Ramdev's Patanjali has published a book on pranayam and there a detailed explaination has been given about Kundilini and meditation.

Even I heard this before that one gets siddhi only after he has taken it from some guru and never without it. Siddhis are divine powers.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@rasyafan,
Those sidhhis are different. They allow a person to perform certain tasks which others can not do so easily. But a sadhak can get stuck at this stage & his progress may stop. That's why it is recommended for a true sadhak, not to get caught in the state of achieving some sidhhis.
A true Sishha is one who is at a very high state.
It is very much advisable to go in this path under a true Guru. Because he who has realised can only guide you.
It is very mush possible for person whose Kundalini is activated, has reached a higher state & may be living among us like a normal Human. He may not advertise his achievement.
Edited by mnx12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnx12

@rasyafan,

Those sidhhis are different. They allow a person to perform certain tasks which others can not do so easily. But a sadhak can get stick at this stage & his progress may stop. That's why it is recommended for a true sadhak, not to get caught in the state of achieving some sidhhis.
A true Sishha is one who is at a very high state.
It is very much advisable to go in this path under a true Guru. Because he who has realised can only guide you.
It is very mush possible for person whose Kundalini is activated, has reached a higher state & may be living among us like a normal Human. He may not advertise his achievement.

This is exactly what a true guru warns against. To make progressin the spiritual path the seeker wouldhave to rise above the craving for power in the form of siddhis. The goal is to attain slf realisation, to experience the ultimate truth . It is said that kalyug is the time to attain self realisation for most of the souls who have been working hard through the different yugas. Sahajyoga deals completely with the rising of Kundalini, clearing of chakras, healing, regular practise of meditation and attainment of self realisation by thousands all over the world. It cuts across the barriers of religious bigotary. Some information can be found on the internet. I found it quite interesting.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This is exactly what a true guru warns against. To make progressin the spiritual path the seeker wouldhave to rise above the craving for power in the form of siddhis. The goal is to attain slf realisation, to experience the ultimate truth . It is said that kalyug is the time to attain self realisation for most of the souls who have been working hard through the different yugas. Sahajyoga deals completely with the rising of Kundalini, clearing of chakras, healing, regular practise of meditation and attainment of self realisation by thousands all over the world. It cuts across the barriers of religious bigotary. Some information can be found on the internet. I found it quite interesting.

I sometimes wonder if majority of sadhus have attained these siddhis the way they live in Himalaya and do the tap for years and years. May be they may have attained some sort of siddhis but not like they can do miracles not like gautam buddh or ved vyas ji or some other sages. but tantriks certainly do have these siddhis not all tanktirks though but majority of them would make people fool 😆 in believing that they can perform magical tasks they can make them rich or kill someone etc.

Today black magic is really fooling people and they are being cheated, their own mistakes. What a pity these tantriks are bringing bad name to our hinsuism and sanatan dharm. Though this happens in every religion but television shows only hindu bad babas 🤢🤢🤢🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: rasyafan


Today black magic is really fooling people and they are being cheated, their own mistakes. What a pity these tantriks are bringing bad name to our hinsuism and sanatan dharm. Though this happens in every religion but television shows only hindu bad babas 🤢🤢🤢🤢

Your concerns are well placed. The sad reality is that some babas have really caused a lot of damage to people's faith. After cases like Asaram and his ilk people ought to be very careful about placing their trust in dubious babas. Anyone making material demands and other unjust demand should be seen with a high degree of suspicion. It wouldn't be a sin to consider why a spiritually evolved guru would be after your wealth or women.

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