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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Ddiala

@Rehanism Oh yeah.. so another distortion on the way?? Sikhandini turns Sikhandin/Sikhandi because her father insulted her for being a woman? 😲 Not for her wife's father is on the way to destroy Panchal? 😲

Dhuryodhan might have asked Karna to forsake not for the lac palace plan.. But but but.. forever 😭

I think as per the spoilers they are now upto some fight.. that might be stopped by the elders.. Varanavat was a secret mission na..


Precisely!!! First of all, Shikhandini wasn't the one who failed to protect Panchala - it was her brothers Satrajit & Vikra. If Drupada was disappointed in anyone, it was probably w/ them.

Then Shikhandini didn't do her sex change due to this defeat. She did it after her marriage to a princess, when that princess on her wedding night discovered that her husband was another woman. She reported that to her father, who was about to wage war on Drupada. Grief stricken @ causing her father this trouble, Shikandini went away, wanting to end her life, but the yaksha came and swapped sexes w/ her, and he returned as Shikhandi, and war was averted.
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Posted: 11 years ago

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Precisely!!! First of all, Shikhandini wasn't the one who failed to protect Panchala - it was her brothers Satrajit & Vikra. If Drupada was disappointed in anyone, it was probably w/ them.

Then Shikhandini didn't do her sex change due to this defeat. She did it after her marriage to a princess, when that princess on her wedding night discovered that her husband was another woman. She reported that to her father, who was about to wage war on Drupada. Grief stricken @ causing her father this trouble, Shikandini went away, wanting to end her life, but the yaksha came and swapped sexes w/ her, and he returned as Shikhandi, and war was averted.



Exactly.. Am actually not sure about the sons Drupad had during the war.. But am sure Drupad is aware that Sikhandini will turn to a male some time..
even before her birth.. And she will be his eldest son soon.. How can he call himself Santanheen when he knew this? There are fair chances that in SP Mahabharat we will see Sikhandini going to forest or going on a penace to attain man-hood.. 🤢

as someone said earlier, knowingly or unknowingly they are making us discuss, read and analyze more and more..

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Posted: 11 years ago
Also, how can Drupada doubt what Shikhandini's been promised by Mahadev, when he himself was told by Mahadev that Shikhandini was destined to become a man? Drupada in such a case wouldn't have put Shikhandini in combat until that happened.

When exactly that happened in time is not clear.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Infact Sikhandini was born after Drupada made penances to Shiva so that he gets a child.. So we can conclude this Drupada of SP is an atheist 🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
Actually Shikhandi is no where present during his/ her father's capture by Arjuna. The fight on the Panchala side was led by Drupada himself assisted by Satyajit (probably his brother) who was the army general.
Shikhandi does not enter the picture right now. And even after the sex change operation, he is continued to be called a half man (ardha-purush).


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: varaali

Actually Shikhandi is no where present during his/ her father's capture by Arjuna. The fight on the Panchala side was led by Drupada himself assisted by Satyajit (probably his brother) who was the army general.

Shikhandi does not enter the picture right now. And even after the sex change operation, he is continued to be called a half man (ardha-purush).




Hmm really.. that's unfair.. But I see that none other than her parents knew the secret.. Then who called her so? Vyas? or after Bheeshm's death people came to know and spoke thus?

I also had this question.. Why did Drupada penance for a son to slay Bheeshm? It can be for the unheard request of Amba but am not sure..

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Ddiala



Hmm really.. that's unfair.. But I see that none other than her parents knew the secret.. Then who called her so? Vyas? or after Bheeshm's death people came to know and spoke thus?

I also had this question.. Why did Drupada penance for a son to slay Bheeshm? It can be for the unheard request of Amba but am not sure..


According to MB, in that war (for gurudakshina), Drupad and his brothers fought. Shikhandi is nowhere mentioned in that war. Devarshi Narad had told Shikhandi's secret to Bhism and during Kurukshetra war, Bhism told about this to Duryodhan when Duryodhan asked him why Bhism did not want to attack Shikhandi.

Drupad did not penance for a son to slay Bhism. It was Shikhandi who wanted Bhism to be slain. Nowhere in MB, it is mentioned as Drupad's aim. Drupad wanted a son who would kill Dronacharya and this is how Dhritdyumn was born.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: varaali



Just one. Chakra vyuha would have been like a giant circle- and within that outer circle, there would be several concentric or spiraling circles. That's why penetrating it was considered difficult.
Because even if a breach was made, it would have been easy to re- seal the breach (thanks to the spiraling circles)


There are many other vyuhas- like the Vajra- vyuha, Shakata- vyuha , Kurma- vyuha, Krauncha - vyuha.

Chakra is one of the vyuhas.

It was employed just once in MB - on Day 13.

Drupada would not have had either the knowledge or the required man power to form a chakravyuha during the Pandavas' assault on Panchala.

bold yea I agree because if he did he would had helped abhimanyu isnt it?

but i think the cv's assumed he knew it because he studied with drona...

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