Hum hey Deewane tere Deewane; Aakri Salaam in PPG's Spa - Page 12

Originally posted by: priyachand

@arshi
i dint have a problem with unwedding and ditching plan of RK. My only grouch was the timing. i mean after showign literally dying to save madhu from balraj, showign him ditching was not really suiting. but stil he did give an explanation saying my quest for revenge was so much that i was willing to die to save u for my revenge. i could understand that.

though it was heartrenching, i rather preferred his betrayal to sacrifice!

Originally posted by: mahi_rockstar

awesome post guys...and awesome reviews everyone...👏

but tell me whats the problem with unwedding twist..Agree he should not have done..its a bad thing to do and all.. some have taken it too personal the betrayal of madhu and even hated him..

I love the pain in love too...the sad phase and suffering is what makes love even more strong..Note that I am talking about the fiction shows not real life..😆 After the unwedding I was eager to watch when would they both meet again and when will he realise his love for madhu...and how??Although I believe RK loved madhu during the revenge phase too..he could not just know it then..his eyes were clouded with the revenge..I did not expect any kind of disesase or hidden reason for his betrayal..but I was shocked with the twist and much more excited in the show from then..

the show could have gone to the next level if its handled properly..Its the golden opportunity for madhu to enter BW..and to become a heroine..the denial stage is awesome until sultan entered.. and Madhu being too kind for a gangster (they could have intoruduced him as a producer)and RK being soo evil and sultan being too heroic in every thing..But until then I loved the show..no regrets..

In the end all we need is entertainment from a show..but that was spoiled by some unwanted and forced characters

Originally posted by: mahi_rockstar

awesome post guys...and awesome reviews everyone...👏

but tell me whats the problem with unwedding twist..Agree he should not have done..its a bad thing to do and all.. some have taken it too personal the betrayal of madhu and even hated him..

I love the pain in love too...the sad phase and suffering is what makes love even more strong..Note that I am talking about the fiction shows not real life..😆After the unwedding I was eager to watch when would they both meet again and when will he realise his love for madhu...and how??Although I believe RK loved madhu during the revenge phase too..he could not just know it then..his eyes were clouded with the revenge..I did not expect any kind of disesase or hidden reason for his betrayal..but I was shocked with the twist and much more excited in the show from then..

the show could have gone to the next level if its handled properly..Its the golden opportunity for madhu to enter BW..and to become a heroine..the denial stage is awesome until sultan entered.. and Madhu being too kind for a gangster (they could have intoruduced him as a producer)and RK being soo evil and sultan being too heroic in every thing..But until then I loved the show..no regrets..

In the end all we need is entertainment from a show..but that was spoiled by some unwanted and forced characters

Originally posted by: mahi_rockstar

awesome post guys...and awesome reviews everyone...👏

but tell me whats the problem with unwedding twist..Agree he should not have done..its a bad thing to do and all.. some have taken it too personal the betrayal of madhu and even hated him..

I love the pain in love too...the sad phase and suffering is what makes love even more strong..Note that I am talking about the fiction shows not real life..😆 After the unwedding I was eager to watch when would they both meet again and when will he realise his love for madhu...and how??Although I believe RK loved madhu during the revenge phase too..he could not just know it then..his eyes were clouded with the revenge..I did not expect any kind of disesase or hidden reason for his betrayal..but I was shocked with the twist and much more excited in the show from then..

the show could have gone to the next level if its handled properly..Its the golden opportunity for madhu to enter BW..and to become a heroine..the denial stage is awesome until sultan entered.. and Madhu being too kind for a gangster (they could have intoruduced him as a producer)and RK being soo evil and sultan being too heroic in every thing..But until then I loved the show..no regrets..

In the end all we need is entertainment from a show..but that was spoiled by some unwanted and forced characters

Originally posted by: arshisfan

Had same thoughts, I realized I wrote almost same ideas as you in my previous post 😲

I also didn't bother about Sultan, hated him during the bhai bhai saga onwards, before, he was just a means to make Rk realize that he loves Madhu, I also agree with you he could have be shown as a a producer who spotted Madhu and wanted her to enter BW and not a gangster!!!!

Anyways till 7phere wedding I loved the show, after that there were ups and downs, I liked the pain in the relationship, Madhu trying to save Rk even if the price is leaving him, I know we hated Sultan, and even were angry against Madhu but I liked her dilemma and the emotional scenes it led to, and I liked the divorce track, Rk bringing that girl to make her jealous and then Rk realizing the truth and connecting the dots

Heroine track was spoiled with that prophecy and Pabho's nivarans, though paralysis was an emotional phase but I wanted a film featuring Rk and Madhu as hero heroine in a love story and not a female oriented film, I wanted to see them set screens on fire and become the first jodi of BW something like Kajol-Shahrukh khan , but unfortunately they went the heroine oriented way and they even prevented Rk from being the hero in the next half of the film!!!

But yes even with ups and downs we always had some good scenes between Rk Madhu, many beautiful scenes, their journey was extremely beautiful

Originally posted by: leelaa9

Bhuvi, Najat, agree with you about it being very interesting, but that's fine if the fandoms are enough crores of people to make the serial's continued existence and great budget worthwhile, even if the story is sure of being disinteresting/displeasing to the mass-audience.

If 3+ TRP is still being hoped for by the sponsors, the budget is given nice backing.
If a track is going to be depressing but is already in 3+ TRP, the budget still remains nice for a few weeks with the expectation that the 3+ TRP won't be eroded.
But the day that the depressing causes the viewership to drop out of 3+, the budget starts to get tightened.

The unwedding (even without triangle-attempt) was imprudent since no series should be overconfident enough to make the mass-audience feel like fools.
They are much less patient after that for tracks that disappoint their expectations of what should happen.

It's great for short-term benefit, but gives long-term eroded faith by the mass-audience in the writing-depth.

If there had been some clues until then, it would have been fine.
But instead, it was like a generic Hindi detective film - where the conclusion is showcased at the end with scenes that were never in the film until that moment.
So it's like telling the audience that the story's writing was not actually wellplanned or in depth and was in the same boat as the general sort of programmes, so they shouldn't bother to expect quality. They end up caring more about the lead-couple, and increasingly less about the writing or the story or the other characters.

Any kind of clues would have spoiled the fun..It may not be pre-planned but if it is pre-planned and with few clues here and there we could not have enjoyed rishbala's love phase..pakka..and if there were no clues as they shown us the entire time..we would have easily say RK loved madhu but his ego overpowered him..He should realise his love for her sooner or later..this scenario is really better than the first.

Example IPKKND ek bar phir which my mom watches..We could really know the male lead is faking his love and he is trapping her in the first..I immediately said "Mom he is faking,how can he suddenly fall in love with her?" this would be the case with RM too

And 'lame hugs' *don't* count as a clue.🤔
Indian serials have shown a lot of lead-couples - where the fictional couple supposedly adore each other and have at least one or two kids - giving lame hugs.😆
Lead-couples who hug very comfortably, there's the risk of several different directions starting to at least consider rumours about their being together in real life.

So long as the lead-pairing is mass-appealing, the couple's developing love is the goldmine for a series - the mass-popular couple loving each other and standing by each other.
Even when that's extended further for years, the viewership-amount stays great.

So if it's intended to be a betrayal - and then later the actual mutual love -, then the pre-betrayal 'love' should be for maximum two months.

I think the love phase of madhubala has been in a good pace..I mean track after track maintaining a good characterisations and connections is what made it soo enjoyable and infact very unique..so they wrapped up the first love phase quickly in my view..😆 otherwise it would have been the case of the example I have told you above 😛

If a couple is mass-popular, then whatever the reason for separation, TRP can be expected to remain in the 3+ range for at least a couple of months, since the mass-audience generally tolerate and watch the mass-loved lead-couple estranged for a couple of months, expecting the reconciliation to start in the 3rd month, and the couple reconciled, and fully in a happy marriage again by the 4th month.

During the first two months, the male-lead husband can be shown having an affair or getting married to someone else (with or without having divorced the female-lead wife), sometimes even having a kid with the other woman (which made their expectation of the 'Ria' situation as getting mass-sympathy for Madhu to separate from her 'unexpectedly' unappreciative husband an unworkable track with foreseeable lack of mass-viewership).
Those two months of episodes can even be a fictional leap of weeks or years.

But by the third month of episodes, the reconciliation has to start - with the wife forgiving the husband and making excuses for him, and the husband's prestige and public image unharmed.

Here, they charted a course which had a guarantee of losing 3+ TRP and going steadily downward.
Less than a month after the unwedding episode, they started the triangle-attempt and almost had blood dripping into the female-lead's maang during that duration.
If the male lead and female lead are *both* very mass-popular and the main interest-factor relationship of the series, then his affair or getting married is mass-condoned as a temporary aberration, but the female lead is permitted no such latitude without mass-support switching to the male-lead.

The experiments Star kept restricted to its subsidiary channel Star One but never touched its successful serials on flagship Star Plus, Colors opted to try the previously proven mass-unappealing experiments on its successful serial on its flagship channel.

Different and modern ideas don't seem to have enough of a massive viewership - apart from Star Plus, Star tried Star World, Star Utsav and Star One, but it was the last with freshly made serials which needed to be revamped twice, with its 3rd version being LifeOK.

If something in several consecutive episodes is going to be depressing (without the mass-assuring guarantee of happy in a few weeks), or too modern, in fact anything that will make those of the mass-audience who may be depressed or tired at the end of the day switch the channel to some other option more guaranteeably pleasant in that screentime,
then viewership reduces; extras (including servants) become bare minimum and only when absolutely necessary; the number of customized indoor sets is reduced; generic sets maintained and used by several serials are more preferred; wardrobes become limited and repeated; and every expense starts to look proportionately unreasonable depending on the reduced number of millions of viewers likely to watch every episode.

Our show maintained 2+ trp for many days say months..but the tracks did not help that is lack of creative side and story telling..they slowed down the pace,experimented with tracks and used pathetic formulas to gain audience..

Originally posted by: RM14

I also think so,that unwedding ws a great twist.I didn't feel bad,infact i thought this is the time madhu show him wht she cn do,but i didn't curse Rk for that,i thought they want to show it like this way only,n this twist ws gud.I want to share somethng:During this phase one day i ws watching Mb n an aunt from neighbourhood came n saw madhu scene,she said,"Dekha kya hua hamari madhu k saath,par koi baat nahi,wo aage badegi,chup nai rahegi."so i mean,general viewer liked this.Aunty didn't curse Rk badly.That time Madhu should hv entered Bw,agree.This wud be best.well i loved the way they met again n their fiery fights n for me sultan only brought them close.My thinking ws that if Madhu is helping sultan than its ok,padmini is there to tell her the right way,than she'll undrstood later.If she cn love a man who ditched her,than cn't she help a person who is gangster bt a gud man at heart.she ws innocent n kind hearted by nature,that's why she even helped mukund n did FIR for a superstar.o/w who take panga wth supestar? n she didn't love sultan at all.The moment she realised that sultan is attracted towards her,she spitted on his hand n argue wth him.i am talking abt fiction only.so for me,i also didn't like many thngs during sultan phase bt think that sultan track also cud hv been worked if handled properly.Also i didn't know that time abt channel interference n forced char.as u r saying,may be it ws a reason for track failure,bt i enjoyed their journey with ups n downs,n their love.