Episode 566 Discussion: 5th May 2014, Monday - Page 4

Originally posted by: _charu_

Anki, what about those times when AK tried to kill Raju , torture her and Raju and Leela peela were torturing her? when she was kept on house arrest? usko yaad nai aaya ke there is police and law in this country ?

just by saying "woh humari baat sunenge, humko chod denge, hum nayi zindagi shuru karenge", kuch nahi hoga... yeh madhu land nahi hai...na hi PK la land hai...AK deserved a worse death ...How will she prove Raju innocent? aaj tak apne liye toh kuch hua nahi usse... she doesn't have the money , power or brains to do anything..she is not fit to even step out of the house..yes, she is abs perfect for the jobs which Rahu mentioned..kapde dhona , roti banana and bedroom mein rehna..

You do not get JM...I understand...see I think JM has spent her entire life very simply...but most importantly very religiously as Kanha ke bhakt...she basically didnt want innocent Raju stooping to AK's level...in her language - what difference would then remain ?
But again that same simple mindedness failed her as she wasnt able to comprehend how complicated and unjust a trial in court could turn out.
JM remained true to her char.

JM ne Raju ke baare mein socha...aur yeh kiya...
Raja ne Rani ke baare mein socha...aur yeh kiya...
at the end...both did ehat they did out of love.

And she wasnt quiet in those times na...she gave it back to AK in the pool scene or in the atta scene ...before Raju's entry it was a diff ball game as ST-AS hadnt split officially...uske baad se JM grew strong and never took anyone's shit...but again she was too tender hearted to want police to do any ultimate punishment I guess...she didnt think abt that.

Charu dont say that...JM may not be rich or powerful but she is brave...she did come to mumbai from mathura and took a job...that was a big thing for someone from small town mathura that too for a sick relative...JM has an good head on her shoulders...she is not an ideal woman and neither is she a doormat...she is grey with her own shortcomings...

I love JM 😆 so I will end up defending her character some way or the other...🤣

Originally posted by: -Evil-Defiance-

[ You do not get JM...I understand...see I think JM has spent her entire life very simply...but most importantly very religiously as Kanha ke bhakt...she basically didnt want innocent Raju stooping to AK's level...in her language - what difference would then remain ?
But again that same simple mindedness failed her as she wasnt able to comprehend how complicated and unjust a trial in court could turn out.
JM remained true to her char.

JM ne Raju ke baare mein socha...aur yeh kiya...
Raja ne Rani ke baare mein socha...aur yeh kiya...
at the end...both did ehat they did out of love.

And she wasnt quiet in those times na...she gave it back to AK in the pool scene or in the atta scene ...before Raju's entry it was a diff ball game as ST-AS hadnt split officially...uske baad se JM grew strong and never took anyone's shit...but again she was too tender hearted to want police to do any ultimate punishment I guess...she didnt think abt that.

Charu dont say that...JM may not be rich or powerful but she is brave...she did come to mumbai from mathura and took a job...that was a big thing for someone from small town mathura that too for a sick relative...JM has an good head on her shoulders...she is not an ideal woman and neither is she a doormat...she is grey with her own shortcomings...

I love JM 😆 so I will end up defending her character some way or the other...🤣

Finally watched the episode nd have mixed feelings about it 😆 I did'nt like Raja's new found accent!
GU almost ruined the episode 4 me with blandness redefined kind of performance 🥱
Police inspector was a dumbass who did'nt even noticed that Ak's hands were tied, i mean who commits suicide like that 😆 instead inspector started feeling guilty chalo ji creative liberty 😆
JM ko achanak se enlightment hua that something called police holds an existence (I must say that was quick JM 🤓 😆 )

The only thing I liked in the episode was Precap nd ofcourse VD again looked dashing 😆

P.S.- Plzz change the setting now move out of RK mansion, but am sure they won't! 😆

Leela Awsome Review.

@Nyasa...The reason for Raja's new found accent is that he is KRK's new found son according to the new spoilers... 😛 😆

Originally posted by: SVK1234

also did u notice the facial expression he was making when Raja was forcing alcohol down his throat? then later on when he and Raja were alone in the room? it felt like he was bored as hell and can't wait to get out from there and he called himself a versatile actor😆 they were shooting his death scene, and his face has no emotions other than boredom.

Well said! I also cann't understand, what was that? his death scene's expression or pack up scene's expression!!

Originally posted by: _charu_

i wish 10% of ur explanation was true for JrM 😆 toh MB wud have been much more bearable for me..

arre, is this the sign of strength? she never cared to dig up in her past to find out about her parents..nor did she do anything against AK except crying in front of PK "Oh God, give me more strength to bear this torture of AK...i am losing it" ..now she has the gall to point a finger at Raju..

tu hi bata de..what did she mean by "madhubala hamesha SACH ka saath deti hai"

I have said this so many times abt JM's past...until and unless she first comes clean about her lie n marriage to Raju to Bji n Rji she cannot proceed to ask them abt her parents na ...and there is no one else who will help her to dig her past...and she cannot come clean bcuz she knows Dida is critical there and here a special kid demands her time for the entire day...

so JM cannot outright go on a quest for justice...so what does she do ???
Since she cannot solve her long term parent problem, she deals with the hands on problem she has in the present, namely Raju.

And about AK...she did what was best in that situation...she gave no value to his mad revenge, called him sick and mental , and dared to be happy under his nose...THAT was the best answer she could give him while trapped in AK mansion bcuz of Raju's adoption n AK's blackmail abt Dida.

Isse bara tamacha aur kya ho sakhta hai ? Her indifference was the reason AK grew more insane everyday bcuz he didnt get the reactions he wanted.

For her, his revenge has no meaning...thats why she doesnt even care to justify herself when he first accused her of acting to be in love to take badla...usse pata hai it is baseless so she gives a damn abt it...instead she sees a masoom getting hurt in the process so she focusses on that.

And coming to "Main sach ka saath deti hu. Madhubala galat ka saath kabhi nahin deti" - confusion kya hai ?
Madhu had limitations and couldnt take any action against AK bcuz AK had Raju n Dida to use against her...she valued their lives more than her justice.

And here she has no such limitations...also her POV runs along the lines of good and evil ...so she sees a black n white picture...sees Raju doing something evil...doesnt want him to fall into darkness and so wants him to repent n confess.

Uska dimaag iske aage nahin chalega. Because she has grown up in a religious BG that teaches tolerance and righteousness. Unlike Raja who seems to be from a BG of crime.

This is a war of POVs...her POV of righteousness...and his POV of Tit for Tat.

PS - an article just came out...u better read it...it talks of JM finding abt RM.

Hoping JM continues to avoid that starting-idea of two-letter shortforms, and uses straightforward terms rather than short-forms that only she uses.
The shortform-coining - two-letter and otherwise - is cute and has been done by several heroines of TV serials for everything including their own name. Not particularly novel, and while tracks being copied is understandable, but quirks being copied is a bit awkward and reminds of the instances in more consistently successful serials.

And the way those names are coined gives a bit of cause for qualms, since JM isn't shown just thinking the names but actually says them, both while addressing and referring to the person, with no consideration for possible awkward connotations.😕
'Maamaa-chacha', for instance, had the potential for being truly implicitly embarrassing while being addressed.

A particular relief - leading to better appreciation of her scenes when she speaks to or refers to Kanha - was when she stopped using 'PK', and started using the clearly comprehensible 'Pyaare Kanha'.😃
That's just a personal thing, since 'PK' would remind me of a scene in the film "Chupke Chupke" in which the faux-Pyaaremohan did a wordplay on 'P.K Shrivastav' having dropped by. Shrivastav "peekay aaye" (has come drunk).😆
So "PK" brings that "drunk" meaning to mind, unfortunately.😆
Much prefer the sweetness and absolutely unconfusing clarity of the term "Pyaare Kanha".😳

@Anki, ur sounding like Kareena of Jab we met .."aap convince ho gaye ya main aur boloon" 🤣

Originally posted by: _charu_

@Anki, ur sounding like Kareena of Jab we met .."aap convince ho gaye ya main aur boloon" 🤣

na..tu rehne de mujhe, i will never get convinced...

why wud she react to AK? she was leading a normal life , she never showed any sign of discomfort, whether it was abt living in AK mansion or using his stuff or money or kitchen or her bedroom...it was Raju who was being tortured day in and out..they were in a life threatening situation, and ur saying ke she didn't react to AK bec. it irked him a mentally retarded person had survival instinct and emotions..he felt that his wife was in danger , she was being insulted, and HE reacted, but JM had nothing to say except glare and run to PK and threaten him..n aankhen dikhana to Leela and saying "AAP beech mein nahi bolengi"

what sachai ki devi? everything, frm her coming to Mumbai to marrying AK , then Raju, sab kuch jhoot tha..she lied to Bittu and Radha both and kept lying to them...i dun care if it was for THEIR well being..jhoot toh jhoot hota hai..its not as per Madhu's convinience...aise toh Raju has reasons to kill AK..

@bold -
Ab is mein uska kya dosh ke AK thought to torture Raju to get to her
And tabhi toh !! She lied na ... she accepted that in the beginning that it was a mistake she made for which she got punished ...usne jhoot bolo aur uske saath bura hua...that is why I like JM...ladki galat karti hai toh maan bhi leti hai...unlike Sr Madhu...JM is more humane, she makes mistakes, accepts them and reacts very normally in situations......so she made a mistake...but she accepted and repented for it too...does that make her a hypocrite everytime she tries to stand for the truth after that? No it makes her human. Galti ki, uss se seekh mili aur woh aage badh gayi.

PK ko sirf ek hi baar dhamki mili, aur PK ne uska karara jawab bhi de diya in form of Raja ...baaki times she never ran to PK bcuz of AK re...in stead she gave bhar bhar ke gaali like paagal, disabled, namard etc to AK ...

when she says she stands for the truth...it doesnt mean she is perfect...it simply is how she believes one should live...maine bola na, ladki has grown up in a religious environment...it reflects in her words too...u notice kaise she speaks to AK or Leela or the doctor abt her patni powers, her faith, Savitri, PK etc...this Madhubala is deeply rooted in her faith...whatever happens to her, she overcomes it with her faith ...

and this is also her limitation...😆

I told u na...she is grey...😆