--Flaws of The Hero And Pedestal of The Heroine-- - Page 7

@Neel - Its not excuses I am giving...read carefully...i was explaining his POV, what he believes ...and its not jealousy that has eaten him...it is his belief that he is losing the centre of his existence to stardom. And later, in order to escape the pain, he accepted any excuse and blamed it all on her. Cowardly, but human.

You are talking about the RK who was alright before the ban. After the ban CVs used RK at every bloody step to glorify Madhu. Dont expect logical decisions from then on. What you are saying is easier said than done. No matter how much one RK says he is secure in her love, he is unable to prove he is secure in her decisions as well. RK toh has given up! Usse ab kya bolu? The real control is in Madhu's hands. And she is no less at fault for the movie or baby mistakes! She needs to gear up because now all of it depends on her.

Originally posted by: ..NadiaZ..

<font color="#ff0099">i stopped watching the show i couldn't take this crap anymore as much as i love RM i can't see their characters butchered to no end</font>

<font color="#ff0099">i can't conncet to RK or undertsand him anymore coz like u said in this track his junoon and obsession for Madhu is attacked its the core of RK's character ...and Madhu what can i say not seeing any reaction from her and not standing up for herself is too much how can she tolerate all this she should him realize his mistakes and both of them should work out on their relashionship not only her ...i hate when she actes like nothing big happened she takes things lightly.</font>

<font color="#ff0099">i am mad at both especially RK but i still LOVE them😛</font>

<font color="#ff0099">great post btw</font>

Thanks Nadia...i miss my RM...Give them back stupid cvs!

Originally posted by: armummy

Awesome.

But I want to know what cvs think about Madhu , do they think her as flawed at all or she is for ever a mahaan .

I wish they use the same voice over at the end of episode like balika vadhu about what their thoughts are for that episode, it gives a clear picture for us audience instead of understanding in our own way which I think is exactly opposite to what they want to project.

Thanks Mamatha! I agree! I cannot find head or tail of Madhu's char...and her recent dialogue to Bittuji has repelled me ever more. CVs have a shoddy way of conveying their message. Either they should tell a story with a moral at the end...or they should allow us all to reach our own conclusions...par yahaan pe bhi doublestandards! Uff!

Very nice post.. But the problem is that CVs don't accept this.. They try to show a spotless white madhu and dark grey RK verging onto black thanks to CVs butchering!!

Originally posted by: cardio21

Very nice post.. But the problem is that CVs don't accept this.. They try to show a spotless white madhu and dark grey RK verging onto black thanks to CVs butchering!!

But madhu has always maintained that RK has a good heart.. This time RK has behaved very ruthlessly accusing her of murdering her own child.. He humiliated her, almost raised hand on her, has been ignoring her.. Even when he went to bring her home, he went to the lake instead.. RK is anything but human.. How stone-hearted one has to be ignore the pain madhu's pleading eyes..?

With this dialogue madhu was just justifying her current stance of putting up with RK.. His behavior is highly obnoxious and was raising question marks on madhu's self respect..so CVs tried to convey it,

Otherwise she even told that disgusting bas***d that RK is a better person.. She told her mom and RK and even MC before she became the heroine many times that DK is nicer than what he depicts himself to be..

I agree, CVs wont admit that madhu was wrong in that stunt as they didnt have any other way to show fire and Rishbala altercation with that miraculous recovery.. Take it as something similar to RK's excuse to return that Goddamned diary in the middle of night..

Hey

While you call Madhu a child who cannot see beyond what is shown or accept the POV of others.

What and whose POV is Madhu supposed to accept ?

Thankfully she is not like RK who gets brainwashed by Dipali or Pabbo or anyone who cares to brain wash him.Can we call him less naive ?

Ok you want to use the word "curiosity and not attraction,maybe attraction is a strong word at this point,but it is unlike RK to "request" an absolutely strange female for a drink,it is unnatural for him to grab her hand at the shoot (he was not drunk at that time) to prevent her from moving away from him,trust me I am not reading anything in his gestures I am simply pointing out his conduct,I find it weird that he can take off Riya's footwear when he carries her to the bed in the farmhouse (again I am not imagining any thing beyond the act) I find it odd because he has been sketched as an aloof kind of a character who took six moths to even touch Madhu and he was mostly drunk at that time too 😊

My biggest question is what is RK SUFFERING FROM ? as per you his ego has been trampled way back .I wonder why ? by whom? by the fact that he was paralysed and his wife stepped in to bail the family out of the mess ? That doesn't make Madhu a demi Goddess she is simply doing which maybe you and I or any other dutiful person would have done.

The script writers have been very sensitive in building each character you can say Dipali's character has not evolved but to say the same about Madhu,I would disagree because if I concede that Madhu's cahracter has not evolved so has RK' character stagnated as he remains the deep shade of grey (I know that is a paradox)
Regarding the track of Sultan and Madhu I have critcised it the same way as I'm critical about RK and Riya.

Regarding characters from other TV shows I'm sorry I don't much watch other soaps so I can't comment on that but I repeat that you write very well doesn't matter if I don't agree with you POV.
Lastly I would just like to humour the Riya RK track,I don't much care for the acting of the girl who is supposed to be a carefree sort,or maybe she pales in the presence of Vivian.

Originally posted by: meditation

Hey

While you call Madhu a child who cannot see beyond what is shown or accept the POV of others.

What and whose POV is Madhu supposed to accept ?


Thankfully she is not like RK who gets brainwashed by Dipali or Pabbo or anyone who cares to brain wash him.Can we call him less naive ?

She should listen to all those POVs who want good for her...her hubby, her saasuma , Bittuji...etc.
But has she ever listened to anyone before taking any decision ?😆
Give me one example where she has considered the POV of others, how her actions will affect them, before she has taken any step?😆
Her aim may be good, but her methods have always caused too much grief to everyone around her. That is where the problem lies.
She lives in a family and yet takes decisions for the entire family wthout considering their opinion.

And it is a sad state that Dipali and Pabho know RK better than his own wife so they can hit him where they know he will be affected, that too by using logic 😆



Ok you want to use the word "curiosity and not attraction,maybe attraction is a strong word at this point,but it is unlike RK to "request" an absolutely strange female for a drink,it is unnatural for him to grab her hand at the shoot (he was not drunk at that time) to prevent her from moving away from him,trust me I am not reading anything in his gestures I am simply pointing out his conduct,I find it weird that he can take off Riya's footwear when he carries her to the bed in the farmhouse (again I am not imagining any thing beyond the act) I find it odd because he has been sketched as an aloof kind of a character who took six moths to even touch Madhu and he was mostly drunk at that time too 😊

oh god...so forcefully holding her hand as he wants to know whether she is trying to use his story for fame has some underhanded meaning? and u mean leaving a person on the bed of his own farmhouse with shoes on is more gentlemanly than taking them off and covering her up? 😆

dont read too much into them...a lot could be read between between the puppy dog eyelocks and hand holds between Madhu and Sultan as well...we had to bear that then...we will have to bear this now...😆...CVs are experts at getting on our nerves.😆

My biggest question is what is RK SUFFERING FROM ? as per you his ego has been trampled way back .I wonder why ? by whom? by the fact that he was paralysed and his wife stepped in to bail the family out of the mess ? That doesn't make Madhu a demi Goddess she is simply doing which maybe you and I or any other dutiful person would have done.

a paralysed man, a superstar to boot, falling at the feet of a junior artist...and you say his ego is intact. 😆
Did u see the epi where Madhu comes and puts the watch, perfume etc on him...did u notice his nearcrying expression after he had hugged her? That was a face of a broken man ...😆
And after all that he suffered in the track...he did not get a single word of appreciation from his own family 😆...neither from his Biwi 😆...his struggle was ignored completely...and you say his ego was not trampled 😆

I ? If I was taking a commitment of a movie...I would have been professional about it. I wouldnt have acted like a teenager and said "I can do everything at once" and then cause losses at shoot everyday because of my unprofessionalism 😆
She is a child here as well...does not have that much maturity to understand adults need to sacrifice somethings for the bigger picture sometimes.
And even then she also abandoned her commitment once she was pregnant...her commitment was to see the movie through til the end of the premiere...but what did she say...bhaad mein jaaye woh sab, mujhe mera bachcha chaahiye...if you were the husband, would u not feel that your wife abandoned you at such a crucial moment?...again a child who cannot think rationally like an adult 😆

The script writers have been very sensitive in building each character you can say Dipali's character has not evolved but to say the same about Madhu,I would disagree because if I concede that Madhu's cahracter has not evolved so has RK' character stagnated as he remains the deep shade of grey (I know that is a paradox)
Regarding the track of Sultan and Madhu I have critcised it the same way as I'm critical about RK and Riya.

Perhaps it is your POV that RK has not undergone growth...i could refute u with numerous examples but i dont have that much time. 😆
And till now there is nothing between RK and Ria as it was to the degree between Madhu and Bhai. I will wait and watch, then comment on it.

Regarding characters from other TV shows I'm sorry I don't much watch other soaps so I can't comment on that but I repeat that you write very well doesn't matter if I don't agree with you POV.
Lastly I would just like to humour the Riya RK track,I don't much care for the acting of the girl who is supposed to be a carefree sort,or maybe she pales in the presence of Vivian.

No problem if you cannot agree. I wouldnt have answered you if you hadnt asked me questions. Lets agree to disagree 😆
Still...it was duty to answer. 😆
I kinda like their scenes...I focus on RK and his reactions...girl was just introed...so maybe she will get better.

ankita your this post has a very strong impact i feel 😊

Originally posted by: .Shree.

Nice Post

Thanks Shree 😳

Originally posted by: rima4ever

ankita your this post has a very strong impact i feel 😊

Maybe...maybe not 😆
As I said before...I was getting a lot of things off my chest in this post 😆