Episode 297 Discussion: 13th June 2013

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Episode 297 Discussion: 13th June 2013


Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

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  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

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Episode 297 Discussion - EOD Summary

Mrs. Madhubala Rishabh Kundra's grihapravesh with complete traditional customs.

Events Of The Episode

1. Rasheed continues his storytelling to Sultan. Mohan Kundra fires Rasheed from his driver duties but keeps sending him money for raising this illegitimate child. Meera loses her mental balance when her infant is taken away from her. Neighbors call police but she is not in the sane state to lodge any complaint. She then ends up in the mental asylum. The greed for money makes Rasheed stick around however his wife Naziya really loves the infant as if her own. When money stops flowing from Mohan Kundra, Rasheed takes off leaving Naziya and Sultan to fend for themselves. Rasheed instigates Sultan to take money from RK for what he has suffered. Sultan is disgusted by Rasheed's greed and throws him out of the hospital room threatening him not to show his face ever again.

2. RK and family come home from the wedding venue. Radhaji arranges for Madhu's grihpravesh in the traditional manner with all customs. During this ceremony,Dipali feigns impatience claiming why the need for this nautanki when Madhu is already living at RK mansion for a year. This angers RK and he reminds Sikki and Dipali that they need to leave RK mansion. RK informs Dipali that he suspects her hand in Sultan fiasco. Sikki pleads with RK to let them stay while Dipali is frustrated at this turn of events.

Episode ends

Episode Reviews
Page 1 - ClosetRomantic, _charu_, Soundarya22, river123,
Page 2 - _charu_, leelaa9, amrithas, orioncorporate, Hi2life, Angeena,
Page 3 - 4EVRoptimst, sunflower52
Page 4 - ennishet
Edited by -MAS- - 12 years ago
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TRP and GRP Ratings - Week 23 - 3rd June to 9th June:

  • MEIEJ continues upward trend. TRPs were 2.9, and the show now shares #4 position with QH. It is now the top Colors show
  • Colors is #2 among channels - GRPs were 198. Starplus at #1 position, and Zee at #3.
Data source: Scrutiny

Analysis:

Originally posted by: river123

Thanks Charu and Zoya! Looks like we only have TRP news as of now (no GRPs)
TRPs:
MB continues its upward trend, in sync with week 2 of the joyous wedding with a twist! TRPs increased from 2.6 to 2.9 the previous week. The show now shares the #4 position with QH. Happy happy. (Note: there are two #3s - Pyaar Dard and Taarak.)

See chart below for MB weekly trends:

Note: does not take into consideration impact of adding new markets at various points. Size of these markets, viewing patterns, demographics, and level of digitization etc. of those markets would impact TRPs. Also, hard to judge IPL's exact impact.

Clearly, the wedding has had the desired positive impact on TRPs. Although we don't have the daily TRPs as of now, I would imagine that regardless of Saturday's puzzling strategy of sizeable airtime to the Sultan related story, other than the usual Saturday dip, that episode might only show a small impact of potential viewer discontent - after all, how many fans were going to risk shutting off the TV, for fear of missing parts of the Rishbala wedding? Oh, the joys of a captive audience! (Of course, I may be proved wrong here.)

It's going to be very interesting to follow the TRPs trends over the next few weeks. Hopefully, they will indicate that the bump is being sustained, and viewers have been re-energized by the strategy adopted by the show: continuing the positive trend of the wedding; new entries; and the new track.

And then finally, a comparison to other top 10 shows. Many of the top shows' TRPs decreased compared to the week. MB went up significantly compared to the previous week. Interestingly, looking at the top 2-7 shows, there were only small differences in the TRPs of those shows. Which indicates that MB may or may not be able to hold on to its #4 position next week.

The two charts below show: 1) Top 10 shows TRPs (MB is yellow) and 2) TRP increase/drop for those shows, compared to the week prior. The blue bars on the second chart are the ones that did better, the red are the ones that did worse, and the no bars are the ones that were the same.


PS: all my usual caveats apply - this is a rough analysis etc. etc. Feel free to weigh in and point out the holes (I freely admit there's probably some!)

Edited by -MAS- - 12 years ago
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Nothing new on the Sultan front today except the confirmation that Mohan Kundra indeed snatched away Meera's baby against her will.

Like I guessed correctly yesterday, RK words were not about suhaagraat 👎🏼

Post-wedding ceremonies going on at RK mansion. I don't think I will be able to enjoy anything till RK removes all those yards of cloth he is wearing and that oversized pagdi 😡

After Sikki blessed them with all sincerity, it is painful to watch him get BBBed 😔

Precap - I'm hoping against hope that Madhu acts contrary to a soap heroine and really throws (only) Deepali out. That would be truly alag che 😊


PS. Watched a little of Nautanki's new soap. Found it pathetic. The leads are so mediocre 🥱
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nice okay entertaining episode...

the flashbacks continues and Rashid divulges his side of the story...he didn't get the money after sometime and he saw that Meera turned mad when Sultan was taken away from him...Papa Kundra continued his kameenapanti and kicked out Rashid ...so a lot points still undiscovered, as in why he committed suicide , why did he take away Sultan from Meera etc. etc. Sultan was born and during that time, he married Radha so that means , for 12 years before he ended his life, Meera was in asylum and he was living a comfortable life with Radha and his son..

liked Sultan today for a short while when he dafa karo Rashid, but i dun believe Rashid's role is over...Sultan , for now, will bring Meera to his home...before leaving Rashid asks him to take money from RK...ha ha ha..why and how is RK liable to Meera ?? to save his father's name from getting tarnished?

cut to Rishbala, finally ! I didn't get RK's promise , what is he gonna do? him kicking out Dips and Sikky out is def. not Madhu's trait 😆 Madhu kicking out Dips is def. what RK wud have done...

their sweet attempt to kiss was a flop...ye toh hona hi hai...he can think of better ideas right RK?

greh pravesh scene was very very good..RK was being his naughty self, i couldn't figure out what he was trying to do , looking at Madhu's hand print? Madhu RK mansion se vida hokar RK mansion mein aa gayi ..good one 👏

RK knows that Dips had some role in bringing Sultan home..n he ordered Sikky n Dips to get lost...👏 honestly, i'll feel sad...i love Sikky and Dips..joker hain but circus toh joker se hi chalta hai na..

ETA loved their faces when they were caught n both of saying in chorus "ma, meri galti hai" 😃 very cute

Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Could'nt watch the episode. Will wait for your reviews. SR not happening, all of us predicted as much. But kiss ?? Come on...CVs.
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A nice time pass entertaining episode..

Rashid-Sultan: A lil more information but nothing path-breaking

RK-Madhu: A happy couple and they have this game going on that they would reverse their roles for the night...

Why did RK go and look at the madhu's finger-prints?
Bittuji seemed the happiest of the lot that Dipali is being thrown out😃

Are yaar, for the serious drama that is going to come up, they might have Sikky for providing some comic relief in between and also provide support to Rads... Dipali jaaye bhaad mein for all I care!!

precap: Don't tell me Madhu is behaving like RK and finally, RK coz its role reversal is going to bring back Dipzy😵
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Continuation of yesterday. But I liked yesterday better, perhaps because we got to see Mohan Kundra, Meera, Rashid and Nazia in action.


Madhu-RK:
  • Sweet moments at the wedding venue, which I found visually appealing. RK telling Madhu the gift he was going to give her. Nicely shown - how when they're leaning in for the kiss, the decorative panels were being moved. Resulting in Radhaji and Bittuji interrupting them. Radhaji and Bittuji must be wondering, are we going to be treated to this continuously? Loved the body language - the way RK wove his arms around Madhu as they were walking. Totally what you would imagine a couple in love doing on their wedding day.
  • Finally! A good traditional gruhapravesh. Beautiful. Loved all those scenes, without the shadow of whatever happened in the past. Clearly meaningful for both RK and Madhu .
  • Of course, with Dips getting all snarky. So RK knows that Dips was likely the cause of Sultan coming in earlier. He's all ready to kick Sikky-Dips out. Sikky appealing to Madhu.

Sultan - the continuation.
  • Sultan is shocked when Rashid uses the word blackmail. Hmm. So what was your profession again, Sultan? The scene with the tears rolling down the hardened gangster's face should have been touching, but they were not.
  • Sultan kicks Rashid out, but am sure he's not seen the last of him. And I'm still suspicious of the veracity of all of Rashid's story. Felt like there may be some partial lies in there.
  • All in all, I watched the scenes, but was not really into it. I felt like whatever needed to be said was said yesterday. Today was just an excuse to stretch things out. Did like Rashid again today. But I still don't know why Meera hates Rashid.


The precap: Madhu is Madhu. She's not really going to kick them out, is she? Its not like they need an extra bedroom for someone else?

Edited by river123 - 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: river123


  • All in all, I watched the scenes, but was not really into it. I felt like whatever needed to be said was said yesterday. Today was just an excuse to stretch things out. Did like Rashid again today. But I still don't know why Meera hates Rashid.
  • Loved the body language ' the way RK wove his arms around Madhu as they were walking. Totally what you would imagine a couple in love doing on their wedding day.
  • Finally! A good traditional gruhapravesh. Lovely. Of course, with Dips getting all snarky.


right Meenu...i forgot to thank you for the TRP graphs and the analysis 👏

why Meera hates Rashid is yet to be seen..from the look of it, she didn't have any idea where her son was..otherwise she wud have tried to locate him and get him back...so why did she attack Rashid and called him ganda aadmi? as per Rashid's story, he didn't have a role in Sultan's kidnapping by MK, nor in the shadi or dhokha or anything..

@bold, yesss, i loved it very very much the way RK held Madhu n had his arms around her n both walked out of the venue smiling..ye different bidai thi..😆

greh pravesh , with all the shloks in the BG was lovely again a unique greh pravesh..ghar ke andar greh pravesh 😃

@CR, i agree, although i'm liking Madhu's look very much , but plz, shadi ke baad therez no need for that pagdi n all..change of costumes pleaaassseee 😛
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Several Rishbala scenes, all of which were excellent.

And yet, one moment that touched me apart from the Rishbala moments was when Radha - in an offhand light tone - told Madhu "Right foot" as Madhu was about to tip over the rice-kalash.
It was a different treatment to that moment in what's usually a cliche.

Actually, all the rituals have been done differently, without the extended family clamour overwhelming at every point as usually shown in serials.

But Radha's those two words and the tone were perfect - an advice given to prevent any absentminded error, but also said so casually that it does not stand in the moment except as a sidenote.
Radha tends to be damn capable - firm but with finesse - when she's not letting things slide to keep her 'happy family' delusions.

On a sidenote, really prefer the bride's handprints being placed near the family shrine, within the home rather than outside.😕

But the two moments I'm going to recommend for even more extra rewatching are both Rishbala moments -
when RK held Madhu close with an arm around her as they followed Radha and Bittuji away from the wedding venue,
and when RK first covertly gazed at Madhu as she placed her red handprints on the wall, and then ducked out to go and look at those handprints - yet another symbol of her complete
ritualistic assumption of status as his wife.😳

Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago

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