Madhu can kill her ego for love but can RK?

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

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Posted: 12 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: ArushiSagar

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To be quite honest, as far as storytelling goes, I don't have a problem with Madhu being shown as this girl who would do anything for love, even to the extent of taking abuse from their man as such women do exist in real life, but I hate the CVs portraying her as strong woman who is standing up for her "love". I also hate RK and Madhu's sado-masochistic relationship being depicted as true love.

I fail to understand how someone as strong as Padmini could have raised such a weak daughter. I have very little respect for Madhubala at this juncture. Unlike a lot of abusive relationships that I have seen in real life, Madhubala has support from her family and friends; she is educated; and has an excellent example of strong womanhood in front of her i.e. her mom.

@bold. I don't have any problems with the story telling aspect either--of her falling for RK again and one would do anything for "love." My problem is how it's been developed here. I've posted about that previously, and won't repeat it here. But now there's another issue I have: the absence of Padmini scenes recently to balance out Madhu's notion that RK has changed, she loves him and will give him a chance. The absence of Padmini scenes while RK's looking "hurt" at Madhu.

Now, those Padmini scenes I talk about wouldn't have done much good on the forum since Padmini's worries and freak outs are considered "nonsense." And even from the narrative point of view, I can understand showing a few episodes giving a false boost to some of the romantic notions, only to later shatter those notions. And also, I understand this is a daily. But still, Padmini needs to be back soon, for balance.

And regarding "hurt" RK. Poor RK, he's hurt after hearing and seeing what he heard and saw. I mean, after all, he had put his all into this marriage. He was really hoping for this marriage to work and he was wanting to be happy. He may have known about her revenge plan before, and tried his best to get her to drop it with brilliant emotional manipulation. She was dumb enough to fall for it the way she did in spite of her mother, sure. So we should be feeling so sorry for poor RK. The RK who wouldn't give Madhu even a bit of space, the control freak. Poor, poor, RK. RK's heart is hurt. His love was true love this time. It was in no way obsessive or unhealthy or anything as such.

Edited by likarsh - 12 years ago

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Sneha

@_StarDiva_

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Posted: 12 years ago

#42

Kyun kahani banate ho apne dimag ko apne pas rakho aur cvs ko kaam karne do Rk bhi ek insaan hai use bhi samjho, ek baar galti ho gai kya madhu se galti nahi hui thi madhu hi sabse pehle rk ki jindagi me aai thi, us mukku k karan wo sab bhul gae ho, usne rk ki to saza dila diya tha par ab kyun us sultan ko bachati firti hai, kua ye bhi uska farz nahi hai ki sultan ko bhi kanoon k hawale kar de. Jab deko rk ki galtiyan ginate rehte hai plz apne dimag ko apne pas rakho aur han mai madhu ki sabse badi fan hun iska matlab ye nahi ki madhu ki galtiyon ko sar par bitha kar uski galtiyon ka saath dun aap logon ko achchha lage chahe na lage mujhe koi fark nahi padta aur han shadi to hokar rahegi dekh lena !!!

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ArushiSagar

@ArushiSagar

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Posted: 12 years ago

#43

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

True, possession is a completely different thing from love. How can you love someone who would go to any cost to own?

Agreed. Some women think possessiveness is love because it makes them feel wanted and appeals to their vanity, but they forget that in such a relationship, the possessor wields all the power and the possessed, none. In my opinion, there is a difference between "I can't live without her" and "I can live without her, but don't want to." I prefer the latter because it is a more mature and realistic mindset. The former is more immature and obsessive.

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752783

Hibernated

Posted: 12 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: AngelSnEha4evr
Kyun kahani banate ho apne dimag ko apne pas rakho aur cvs ko kaam karne do Rk bhi ek insaan hai use bhi samjho, ek baar galti ho gai kya madhu se galti nahi hui thi madhu hi sabse pehle rk ki jindagi me aai thi, us mukku k karan wo sab bhul gae ho, usne rk ki to saza dila diya tha par ab kyun us sultan ko bachati firti hai, kua ye bhi uska farz nahi hai ki sultan ko bhi kanoon k hawale kar de. Jab deko rk ki galtiyan ginate rehte hai plz apne dimag ko apne pas rakho aur han mai madhu ki sabse badi fan hun iska matlab ye nahi ki madhu ki galtiyon ko sar par bitha kar uski galtiyon ka saath dun aap logon ko achchha lage chahe na lage mujhe koi fark nahi padta aur han shadi to hokar rahegi dekh lena !!!

I had to reread three times to understand! Madhu was a witness to what RK did she just didnt get involved she was involved. And she hasn't seen Sultan kill anyone other than defending himself or his child. RK could have killed many innocents while drunk driving the same way Salman Khan did. I know a parent who learned their child was drunk driving and handed them over to the police even though they didn't hurt anyone. It was Radhaji who didn't teach RK right from wrong so just because Madhu tried to teach RK right from wrong he made a joke out of her life and treated her like a thing???

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swati1975us

@swati1975us

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Posted: 12 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: ArushiSagar
Agreed. Some women think possessiveness is love because it makes them feel wanted and appeals to their vanity, but they forget that in such a relationship, the possessor wields all the power and the possessed, none. In my opinion, there is a difference between "I can't live without her" and "I can live without her, but don't want to." I prefer the latter because it is a more mature and realistic mindset. The former is more immature and obsessive.

We need to make this a sticky and make it required reading for anyone who enters this forum 😆. Spot on - absolutely spot on.

It's a very shallow perspective on relationships - to think of insecure, possessive behaviour as manifestation of grand passion. It takes a lot of growing up to know the difference and to understand what makes life sublimely happy and what can throw you down a spiral of perennial angst.

RK is definitely not the latter kind. He's pathologically needy and thrives on hurting those around him.

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ArushiSagar

@ArushiSagar

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Posted: 12 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: AngelSnEha4evr
Kyun kahani banate ho apne dimag ko apne pas rakho aur cvs ko kaam karne do Rk bhi ek insaan hai use bhi samjho, ek baar galti ho gai kya madhu se galti nahi hui thi madhu hi sabse pehle rk ki jindagi me aai thi, us mukku k karan wo sab bhul gae ho, usne rk ki to saza dila diya tha par ab kyun us sultan ko bachati firti hai, kua ye bhi uska farz nahi hai ki sultan ko bhi kanoon k hawale kar de. Jab deko rk ki galtiyan ginate rehte hai plz apne dimag ko apne pas rakho aur han mai madhu ki sabse badi fan hun iska matlab ye nahi ki madhu ki galtiyon ko sar par bitha kar uski galtiyon ka saath dun aap logon ko achchha lage chahe na lage mujhe koi fark nahi padta aur han shadi to hokar rahegi dekh lena !!!

What kahaniyan are we making up here? It's all in the same show we both watch.

As far as mistakes go, RK has made a billion mistakes and not just in relation to Madhu. His behaviour towards Radha, Kuku, Sikki, Bittu, directors, co-actors, crew-members, servants, and frankly any human being is atrocious. I don't think any of these people really love him, with the exception of Radha and Bittu. And his behaviour towards Madhu has been more than what one human being can bear. The fact that you think that their behaviour is even the slightest bit comparable is hilarious to me!

And you seriously cannot be blaming all this on Madhu. Madhu was right in getting RK punished for what he did to Mukund. Imagine if a superstar injures one of your loved ones. Are you going to think "OMG! He's a superstar. He can do what he pleases. To hell with the well-being of my loved ones!"? I don't think so! And why should she turn Sultan over to the police? What has he done to her? He has not harmed her loved ones. I think her actions in this regard are entirely consistent.

You say you are Madhu's biggest fan. Then perhaps you should really think about this whole story through her perspective. Put yourself in her shoes and think if you would ever go for a man that insults and injures your family not once but again and again and gives you only humiliation and pain in return.

Edited by ArushiSagar - 12 years ago

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Diana

@Artemis_1122

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Posted: 12 years ago

#47

I don't think madhu's revenge plan (which never really happened and only involved worrying her own family and putting her own life in danger... i.e. the jump from the balcony) can be compared to RK's revenge on madhu. even if she had gone through with it, it would've never involved public humiliation of RK and def. not his family. not to mention, it was madhu's plan itself that gave her a reason to stay with to RK, which in turn made her re-realise her undying love for him. lol.

so there's no question of RK not forgiving madhu as there's no misunderstanding. he heard her say to Sultan that she has changed her mind and wants to be with RK for ever... and she's clearly miserable abt not telling him before.

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752783

Hibernated

Posted: 12 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: Artemis_1122
I don't think madhu's revenge plan (which never really happened and onlyinvolved worrying her own family and putting her own life in danger... i.e. the jump from the balcony) can be compared to RK's revenge on madhu. even if she had gone through with it, it would've never involved public humiliation of RK and def. not his family. not to mention, it was madhu's plan itself thatgave her a reason tostay withto RK, which in turn made her re-realise her undying love for him. lol.
so there's no question of RK not forgiving madhu as there's no misunderstanding. he heard her say to Sultan that she has changed her mind and wants to be with RK for ever... and she's clearly miserable abt not telling himbefore.

Ppl tried their best here to make it look like she was worse than RK in order to glorify him. But true she would have been completely justified in it in my opinion.
Even if she was somewhat wrong it would have been much better than turning her into a doormat which they are going to do now.