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Posted: 12 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Angeena

I don't know how many of you like VD/RK, but now that I have had some time to get over the episode...

When RK tells Madhu, "You look so sexy!" Damn it, yaar. He just stole my ❤️. After breaking it into a thousand or so pieces.



setting everything aside, I absolutely relished it, for like a second.

Best of luck to you for tomorrow Angeena. 👍🏼
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Posted: 12 years ago
#22

Had ST not tweeted about the big twist and the promos hadn't started airing since Monday, I would have been completely shattered after today's episode and opened my taps. So, thank you ST for planning everything ahead of time and warning us of the upcoming havoc.

Until yesterday, I, as an audience was feeling like Deepali, trying to gauge RKs actions and make some sense out of the situation. But today, I found myself equating to Madhu: numb and in a state of denial, repeatedly rubbishing RKs facade and asking him to get back to the unfinished business. For, who would believe that the man was faking all his love, concern and insecurities for the past five months?

I was not emotionally involved for the first few minutes of the episode, as I was prepared for the storm. But I was involved once I started getting emotional reactions from Madhu. Like-

1. In the first half, when she asks him to call back Panditji and complete the pheras and tells him that 'iske bad main tumhe bataungi ki mujhe kitna hurt hua'.

2. In the second half, when he declares that, 'Rishabh UNWEDS Madhubala', and she is asking him to stop his sick travesty. This scene had me completely invested.

For most other parts of the episode, my mind and heart were numb, as I was too busy in observing and discerning the CON-MAN's expressions. But Alas! He hardly gave anything away, hiding everything behind that SUPERSTAR mask. However, the act was not convincing enough and was nothing compared to his antics of the pre-studio night, which used to send shivers down our spine with the menace in his eyes and the craze in his actions. It was quite obvious that he was faking all of it.

However, the moment Madhu asks him,'tum Mazak kar areh ho na', for that split second, I again saw the unmistakable love, concern, apprehension, sense of loss and resignation in his eyes, similar to the one in the pre-phera scene. The family drama, the Ganesh pooja, the action sequence and the romance were not planned by you Mr.Rishabh Kundra and we know it too well. The only thing you had planned , was this climax or rather anti-climax.

So, he wants to invoke the strongest reactions from her, as was clear by him repeatedly telling her, 'Emotion kaha hai' while shaking her, and put down his mask once he gets this reaction. What a convoluted and painful path to tread with your love in order to push her into the world she hates! Get some help Rishabh Kundra. Because, you will need a very very strong story to back your so called revenge and redeem yourself, for putting our poor Madhu and in turn us through so much devastation. You better gear up for that. Until that day, I HATE YOU!!

Coming to Madhu, she was tormented, hurt and shattered beyond tears today. She was shocked. The pain is worst, if it doesn't flow along with tears. May be this is what sent RK into panic mode. No reaction from Madhu, and he keeps on giving blows after blows. I still do not understand how she is going to deal with herself until RK reveals his true intentions behind this mess. I still do not understand how is she going to forgive him or ever trust him fully again and accept his whim for her to enter his flim world.

And dear ST, are you seriously going to take two weeks for this mystery to unfold? Madhu is actually going to be under the false impression of RKs betrayal for two whole weeks? How are we supposed to put up with that? You are actually going to put that poor girl through whole two weeks of torture?

And yes, needless to mention that DD and VD gave brilliant performances. Specially VD. The episode truly belonged to him, for his classy act. He was simply mind blowing with his eyes and expressions. At such a young age 😲 , he can emote such minute expressions so convincingly through his eyes. 👏


ETA: IF ate my post again today..😡. I had to rewrite such a long post. 😭...so already 3rd page on the thread..😲

And btw, as far as my miniscule knowledge about Indian Marriage Law is considered, I am still sure there is no way to UNWED a wedding. Is it? Another thing, why is he bothered to take her along with him(as per the precap), if he has UNWED himself from her? Take your fake anger and revenge with you and please, let her be. Her green bangles broke, if I am not mistaken? 😭 What rishta ended? Which Madhubala's life ended? Malik or Kundra? Too much confusion. 😕 Such convoluted dialogues.

Edited by Ananya05 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#23
Nayak nahin Khalnayak hun mein
Julmi bada dukh dayak hun mein
Hai pyar kya muz ko kya khabar
bas yaar nafarat ke layak hun mein.

Go away Ballu!!! After today, only RK can sing this song.

It is my honor to declare this year's winner for the best actor Filmfare award who is none other than RK - Rishabh Kundra. What an outstanding, mind blowing performance. Take a bow RK. We are indeed left spellbound, speechless and uncomfortably numb.

Who are you and why did you do you this to this poor innocent girl. How could you? Each and every taunt of his to Madhu was like a stab to my heart. I have never felt so helpless, sad and pained before. 😭 😭 😭

Revenge is a dish best served cold. It took RK many months to cool this dish down so that he can serve it to Madhu as a dessert today.

Kya se kya ho gaya bewafa tere pyar mein
chaha kya, kya mila bewafa tere pyar mein.

Madhu's pain was beyond words. When you are shocked and stunned, the tear ducts are dried up. They just refuse to show up. Oh Madhu my heart is broken into thousand pieces for you and I am crying for you. 😭 😭


As someone said in the earlier post here that hind sight is 20/20. We were all baffled at the speed with wich RK was redeeming himself in front of Madhu (Padmini-Malik Shadi, reconciling with Maa, his attempt to fix Trishna's career). So finally it was all leading up to the big heart breaking showdown and split with Madhu. We must give credit to Dipali that indeed she was the only one who steadfastly kept refusing to believe RK's apparently deceiving transformation from his old avatar at this alarming rate. You really knew him better than us Dipali. I must say it takes one to know one. But where is Bittuji in all this?

How do you trust a person who has broken your trust, your heart, your faith in yourself, your belief in seeing good in others? Is such a person worth crying over? No, not even a moment must be spent in self pity. It is an insult to you, your pride, your soul, your very existance on this planet.

Feeling really low with RK's betrayal towards Madhu (and us in the process). More pain to come next week.

I am sincerely hoping that there is more to what meets the eye here and something is not right. For Madhu's and our sake, there is some sensible reason behind this otherwise insaniyat per se vishwas hi ud jayega. 😭
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Posted: 12 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

☢️ ☢️☢️ Episode


Okay you will all curse me today.

But I am mighty relieved. Finally the SUSPENSE break happened. 😃 I always said, I was more worried about me and you (audience). Madhu is secondary because, she has the dramatist with her. Sourabh Tewari will take her where he wants to...and I don't have any exercise rights on her, so why bother. She was in state of shock.

NAUTANKI
Question that Madhu and I have...
All this was a lie ?
All this was a lie ?
All this was a lie ?
All this was a lie ?
Answer I have ...I don't know what Madhu is going to think when she comes out of shock...
Bring on more drama, entertainment.
Bring it on RK !!!!
Now what I don't understand is Did ST's spirit enter your body and takeover your soul ? Seems the case. !!! But ST showed through that you both are RAKSHAS. EK Number Ke. Kis Rakshas ke bachche ho, zara apna khandaan ka to khulaasa karo ????


PANDIT ASSOCIATION
Why don't you go and stage global level protest that ST through MEIEJ has made a joke of Hindu Marriage. That he mocks marriage rituals. That he creates half-marriages and also unwinding of marriages. Is it even possible ?
I am with you. 👍🏼 Chalo Dhaava bolte hai Nautanki Films Aur Colors Channel par.


INDIAN LAW
RK cannot prove that he has unwed Madhubala Rishabh Kundra. Not Possible. No legal tenet available.
Don't worry Madhu. Legally you are still RK's wife.


PRECAP
Abey Rakshas!!! Ab Madhu ko kahaan kheench ke le jaa raha hai. The End hai to Jaa...Apna Raasta Naap Na??!!! Madhu ke baare sochne ki kya zaroorat ??? Usko kahaan le jaa raha hai?? Kheenchte hue ??
Darr lag raha ki, subah utho, to pata chala.. woh mar-mara gayi aur tujhe scandal se deal karna pade...Darpok ek number ka. Beda garak ho tera. Satyanaas ho tera!!!! Tu kahin moonh dikhaane laayak na ho !!! Ja maine bad-dua de di.
🤣 🤣


MIND-SPINNER Questions:
Madhubala Shamsher Malik ki Zindagi ka THE END
Uski Zindagi ka sabse keemti rishta ka THE END
Jo khel tumne shuru kiya, use maine khatam kiya
Picture ab baaki nahin hai
Madhubala Shamsher Malik ka, Is Rishte ka THE END

Abey yaar!!!! 😡 Kahani mein phir se Twist with those questions.

Line 1 - okay, Madhu the simple girl's life ended
Line 2 - Puzzled...Which Rishta ? The Rishta of Heart ? When she was a Malik, her family, I guess was keemti rishta...I don't know I am confused. She loved RK when became a KUNDRA. So mystery deepens for me.🤔
Line 3 - Question is so what about Madhubala Rishabh Kundra. I am conphoozed !!!!

CHALO...Now we will have a peaceful Sunday and week ahead.

ETA:
PUNCHLINE for Today
Buri Neeyat waale, Teraa Moonh Kaala


i like those nukes 😆 Shri, aap AAJ confuse hue ? 😕😛 Shri, what makes you think that she is legally married to him? 😕 if so then therez no need for these phere to complete the wedding...Ananya, Leela and I had a lengthy convo abt it 😆 but no result..do u remember any episode where they showed ke he married her legally? except for the contract, which is not equated to a marriage certificate or registered marriage by law..

my eternal hope..the green choori's..a few of them broke but not all


Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#25
To dedicate to my favourite couple, I've chosen this wonderful poem, recited by Shahrukh Khan in Jab Tak hai Jaan. Personally, I loved it the first time I heard it. It is about love, hurt and betrayal...I've also indicated what RK would say and what Madhu would say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx_R9BKosAE

RK TO MADHU
teri aankhon ki namkeen mastiyaan
teri hansi ki beparwaah gustakhiyaan
teri zulfon ki lehrati angdaiyaan
nahi bhoolunga main
jab tak hai jaan, jab tak hai jaan

the naughty fun in your eyes,
the carefree forwardness of your eyes,
the wavey stretching of your hair,
I'll not forget, as long as I live..

MADHU TO RK
tera haath se haath chhodna
tera saayon se rukh modna
tera palat ke phir na dekhna
nahin maaf karunga main,
jab tak hai jaan, jab tak hai jaan..

your leaving hand from hands,
your turning away from the shadows (of mine),
your not turning back to see,
I'll not forgive,
as long as I live.
as long as I live..

RK TO MADHU
baarishon mein bedhadak tere naachne se
baat baat pe bewajah tere roothne se,
chhoti chhoti teri bachkani badmashiyon se,
mohabbat karunga main
Jab tak hai jaan, jab tak hai jaan..

your dancing freely in rains,
your getting angry on small things without reason,
your small, childish mischieves,
I'll love them all,
As long as I live, As long as I live..

MADHU TO RK
Tere jhoothe kasme vaadon se,
tere jalte sulagte khwabon se,
teri beraham duaon se,
nafrat karunga main,
Jab tak hai jaan, jab tak hai jaan..

Your false promises,
your burning dreams,
your heartless wishes,
I'll hate them all,
As long as I live, As long as I live..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: Soundarya22


  • Finally the performances...VD take a bow. Gosh, he looked like he'd gone back to his old self. But there was a infinitesimal difference in his eyes, or did I imagine it?? Someone please answer, this is not a rhetorical question. Was i so primed by ST''s reassurances that i saw what I wanted to see ??


No, you're right. I'm sitting at my comp comparing his today's "act" with some of his worst excesses from the early days...and his eyes are not the same. That slightly maniac, crazed, devilish edge is gone.

How does VD do it? I'm astonished that someone so young can emote so beautifully with minute changes in his eyes. I dare say not many telly heroes or even Bollywood heroes are capable of this. Kudos to Vivian!

But tonight, I grieve with Madhu. I know, I know this is fiction and all that..but my mind is filled with questions such as -

  • How in the world will he face Radha when she asks "Where is Madhu?"; Or, Bittuji when he asks for his Bhabhiji...
  • When Padmini calls her "samdhan" Radha to chitchat and finds out Madhu is gone, how will the Maliks react? (I'm pretty sure Madhu will hide in the village with Kaka/Kaki to lick her wounds)
  • How will he sleep at night when he sees the empty pillow next to him?

Yes, we've still got the big twist coming and the whys and wheretos to be answered, but I reserve this weekend to ponder such imponderable questions...that's the hold his serial has on me!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: Ananya05

Had ST not tweeted about the big twist and the promos hadn't started airing since Monday, I would have been completely shattered after today's episode and opened my taps. So, thank you ST for planning everything ahead of time and warning us of the upcoming havoc.

Until yesterday, I, as an audience was feeling like Deepali, trying to gauge RKs actions and make some sense out of the situation. But today, I found myself equating to Madhu: numb and in a state of denial, repeatedly rubbishing RKs facade and asking him to get back to the unfinished business. For, who would believe that the man was faking all his love, concern and insecurities for the past five months?

I was not emotionally involved for the first few minutes of the episode, as I was prepared for the storm. But I was involved once I started getting emotional reactions from Madhu. Like-

1. In the first half, when she asks him to call back Panditji and complete the pheras and tells him that 'iske bad main tumhe bataungi ki mujhe kitna hurt hua'.

2. In the second half, when he declares that, 'Rishabh UNWEDS Madhubala', and she is asking him to stop his sick travesty. This scene had me completely invested.

For most other parts of the episode, my mind and heart were numb, as I was too busy in observing and discerning the CON-MAN's expressions. But Alas! He hardly gave anything away, hiding everything behind that SUPERSTAR mask. However, the act was not convincing enough and was nothing compared to his antics of the pre-studio night, which used to send shivers down our spine. It was quite obvious that he was faking all of it.

However, the moment Madhu asks him,'tum Mazak kar areh ho na', for that split second, I again saw the unmistakable love, concern, apprehension, sense of loss and resignation in his eyes, similar to the one in the pre-phera scene. The family drama, the Ganesh pooja, the action sequence and the romance were not planned by you Mr.Rishabh Kundra and we know it too well. The only thing you had planned , was this climax or rather anti-climax.

So, he wants to invoke the strongest reactions from her, as was clear by him repeatedly telling her, 'Emotion kaha hai' and put down his mask once he gets this reaction. What a convoluted and painful path to tread with your love in order to push her into the world she hates! Get some help Rishabh Kundra. Because, you will need a very very strong story to back your so called revenge, for putting our poor Madhu and in turn us through so much devastation. You better gear up for that.

Coming to Madhu, I still do not understand how she is going to deal with herself until RK reveals his true intentions behind this mess. I still do not understand how is she going to forgive him and accept his whim for her to enter his flim world.

And dear ST, are you seriously going to take two weeks for this mystery to unfold? Madhu is actually going to be under the false impression of RKs betrayal for two whole weeks? How are we supposed to put up with that? You are actually going to put that poor girl through whole two weeks of torture?

And yes, needless to mention that DD and VD gave brilliant performances. Specially VD. The episode truly belonged to him, for his classy act. He was simply mind blowing with his eyes and expressions.


Soundarya, Ananya, i'm with you 🤗 it was clearly visible that he's faking it..but as u said it ananya, they need a VERY VERY strong narrative to back this kind of BS twist ..i can very well guess the "reasons" but cannot imagine what Madhu might be going through..it's very very unfair to her 😭 her world came crashing down..making her go through this immense pain 😭 she was numb...aur koi hota usko heart attack ho jaata...this is no joke, RK shouldn't have done that..how will he redeem himself ?i hate to say this but she should never come back to him, even if he was ACTING 🤢 this khushi, love is all a facade..Dips is right, they belong to different worlds...this is one good opportunity..she should walk away...aag ka dariya bhi paar kar liya doob kar , phir bhi , she deserves much better..

i love him, more than anyone in MB..but this is not the way to get your bloody task done 🤢 or rather, i should blame CV's for planning the "twist" this nonsensical way..
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#28
Posting on behalf of Angeena
She cannot post now as she exhausted her IF limit for the day.

In response to my episode take.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I can't post on the thread because I can't post more than 20 posts in 24h as a groupie.. So I'm Pming u instead

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I loved your post in EDT. My family thinks I went crazy when I burst out laughing.. But Gosh I'm still laughing just thing about it.. You rock. 👏👍🏼
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thank you Angeena.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#29
I am honestly dreading them going back to their respective houses:

RK MANSION:
  • Worst thing ever, Dipali 's triumph. She knows him so well.
  • Radha's reaction...so did he genuinely make up with her or was that also a natak? Imagine if it is real, how much this girl has done for him, made up hundred times over for those damned slaps.
Chawl
  • This is even worse...how will madhu go back after her bidaai? Will she go back? I want her to disappear, really disappear, maybe to the kaka and kaki in the village where she cannot even be contacted. Hopefully, it is not a film set.
  • How is she going to get out of this? She has left her whole world behind to join him.
  • Trishna's curse has come true??? No way...another triumph??
I know that this is a serial and the drama element has been maintained. but I have never ever been this affected by any serial. I used to be addicted to so many...but this kind of visceral reaction...I have to keep pinching myself... Madhu is not real, RK is not real.

For this, I must say I grudgingly admire SD and co. I hate this convoluted track, when things could have been so much easier. And sometimes I wonder, is this going to be a revenge drama with passion smouldering within ??? Unrequited love story? Because I wonder how will Madhu ever trust this man again?? Enough trust to love him??
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Posted: 12 years ago
#30

Very true Charu


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