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Posted: 12 years ago
#61
Your post has truly captured the current state of their relationship. And yes, an angle of jealousy will only create wider rifts between the two. RK, being the possessive man he is, an angle of jealousy will only bring out the worst in him, and that's to say if we haven't seen his worst side already.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: anji64

Nice post leela..


The new entry creating a wave among the fans.. may be it is a jealously track.. this show is unpredictable..but I like this Avinash.. this third angle may create some waves in the life of RK and Madhu..
but as nidz said, wo ishq hi kya jisme imtehan na ho...

Thanks, Anji.😊 Yaar when have there not been waves in RK's and Madhu's life?😕😆 I like Avinesh, but I would rather see him in some other series, not putting a spoke in Rishbala's wheel jabh gaadi theekse speed bhi nahi pakdi hai.😛
Yeah, Nids is right😳, but I really hoped Rishbala would have time for results and vacations between imtihaans of ishq.😕 Thanks to the two families, the imtihaans are all consecutive without pause, and now this third angle.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

'RK-Madhu, jealousy and the latest third angle (jealousy vis-a-vis RK and a third angle vis-a-vis Madhu)'.

Admitting at the outset that I loved Avinesh as 'Kabir' in "Chhal".😳😆 It's a different matter that the story there went way offkilter towards the end.😕

But I do *not* want him around the RK-Madhu pairing in any shade, positive or negative. I would also not have wanted any actor I *liked* in such a role vis-a-vis the Kabir-Aditi pairing.

Pairings we love should not have actors we like as third angle. It makes for unpleasantness - because there's no scope for conflict. I want the pairing preserved. The actor can always get another role.

Third angles - at least in Hindi serials - are generally never good for any pairing. However differently or well it's handled, everything soon descends into the absolute realm of cliche. TRPs never permit anything else.

And one keeps reading about jealousy helping RK and Madhu draw closer.

But RK's character does not seem to be the type to draw closer through jealousy or displeasure.

He tends to distance himself if he feels he is being made insecure, whether or not it was intended by the other person.

If he feels the other person is prioritizing someone else, he estranges himself or strikes out to hurt or both.

This is not going to be an ego battle that Madhu will win if she tries to play hard-to-get.

If her attention strays or he starts to feel jealousy, his past experience with Dips will be the spectre at his side eating away at his trust in Madhu.

The more Madhu gives in absolutely to her feelings, the more RK is completely immersed in their relationship.

There are so many points that would be playful or sweetly teasing between a couple in marriage and/or romance, and almost all of those are potential landmines for Madhu in establishing her relationship with RK, given the number of bad memories and absolute erosion of regard for most aspects of marriage and relationships that Radha and Dipali have caused in him.

If RK feels a third angle is making advances towards Madhu (even without her reciprocating), the indeterminate effect it will have on his tenderness towards Madhu is a horrid downside so early in the relationship.

This is not the sort of story in which Madhu would get an ego-boost from her guy going wild with jealousy.

RK's mild version of jealousy was at the party, when he thought Madhu had come to the party at Radha's telling rather than his own.

It reduced Madhu from his 'beautiful wife' that he proudly went around introducing to each guest directly to waitress.

That was his jealousy with his *mother* as the third angle.

I do not want to see what his reaction will be if his jealousy is provoked with a potentially - even remotely - romantic third angle, negative or not, antagonist or not.

Madhu's loyalty and devotion get her the right to bully him, scold him, be irate or tease him.

Madhu as someone else's focus would destroy the growing tenderness of RK's focus on her.

And as someone who was depressed with the waitress stint, I do *not* want to see the hurt she may suffer from any fresh bout of jealousy he may feel about her with another guy in the picture.

This is a relationship in which jealousy is likely to be a corrosive rather than a building agent, and wish to God the CVs had not decided to bring up a third angle when the two basic angles of the relationship are still a long way from being stably bonded to each other.


awesome post 👏 CV's will ruin a beautiful story if they develop any third angle/jealousy track 🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

What I find strange in the article description of this new character is that they're calling him the "antagonist" in the RK-Madhu love story...lol

LOL is it just me who feels that when you have a character like RK who is antagonist/protagonist/all shades of grey rolled in one, what do you really need a full on antagonist for?

Just as a competitor to RK? Someone to challenge him? RK himself seems to push all the boundaries he can before pulling back from the brink...if this guy is being brought in just to show RK fuming and fretting in jealousy, I dunno what purpose that will serve long term.

Superb points perfectly phrased, dear.⭐️👏 Agree absolutely.😳
But I *am* relieved that if the CVs have to go on such an unnecessary path, at least they are clarifying at the outset the position the new character will hold vis-a-vis the RK-Madhu love-story.😊
They are not encouraging by omission this time any of the confusion that had risen during the Mukku track where a supporting character was being mistaken for the male lead.😕
Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_


awesome post 👏 CV's will ruin a beautiful story if they develop any third angle/jealousy track 🤢

Thanks very much, Charu.😳
That's exactly what I'm worried about. Hopefully, the CVs will maintain at least RK's and Madhu's characterization integrity.😊
Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

I don't like third angle and jealousy tracks...so much that I have not seen Darr movie till this date. Can you believe me, a movie buff until 1999s.


Definitions from Viewer perspective
Anyways, I don't understand why viewers across all the shows want to see a jealous and possessive hero for his heroine. I am like 🤪 what does it prove ? When the viewers use these words, are they clear that they want their darling hero look like the jealous, possessive, obsessing husband like Viraj Dobrial of Saubhagyavati Bhava or the jealous, possessive husband like Maan Singh Khurana who throws Geet out of the house in a fit of anger, only to realize what a dunce he was. Story went downhill from that point. Viewers were still not satisfied and wanted to see a jealous Maan for longer duration...but then a psycho third angle was introduced, which made Maan a protective and trusting husband unlike the previous time's insecure guy.

Viewer feedback to Production house
By releasing the news like this through TOI and Avinek (is that the guy's name ?) twitter account, the production house is just trying to guage the public response to this future track introduction. Based on the feedback, they will amend the story. Its like EHMMBH, they introduced this guy as a potential match for the brothers mom to get her married. Due to mixed viewer response which was lack lustre, the guy was given a clean exit after two weeks,

Cliched Production Tactic
If the Third Angle for MEIEJ is truly going to be executed, then I am damn sure, how it will play out. It will be like Missy Madhu's logic gone for a toss when she wore Dipali given saree. Exactly writers will have Madhu throw away her logic out of the window. Then muddled Madhu, unlike resolved Geet (both DD characters) will start behaving in front of RK as ...tumhe jalan ho rahi hai...initially...when things become tormenting to her...she will try to be mahaan...with her saying to RK like...chhodo RK, rahde do kuch nahin, sab theek hai...basically she will be evasive. In the process she will madden RK and viewers with her idiocy. Then RK will get tormented and cranky. He will do something bad and because he cannot see a hurt Madhu, he will go back to her. Its like watching KC track again mixed with Saree track interwoven.
I mean this is so boring.
But for this RK's presence is required. Issue that Production has that VD is going away on 2 week vacation.

Compensating VD's absence in January 2013
NOW...if the PH is trying to use the antagonist -cum-third angle set his foot and capture his place when VD is out, then there are different dynamics here. Ofcourse show will get boring, with banked episodes of actual + VD body doubles thrown to us like meat for the hungry dogs...but then its just a matter of survival for two weeks and until VD actually gets settled into production schedule post-marriage. It is definitely going to be a challeging period for PH and they will have dragging episodes and other filler angles, that definitely have the potential to ruin the story.

The actual story
Anyways, end of December, MEIEJ was in for a challenge...it had this big question like a hanging sword...what next after Rishbala Love Story. They definitely had the third angle element from the inception of the story. Just that it took TRPs down and now they changed the third angle to something else. One positive thing we can see it as...while Mukesh Dikshit was the catalyst who made Madhu meet RK, I wonder what "this new third angle of Antagonist" will do for Rishbala. Every show has a third angle like...Balika Vadhu had Jagya opposite Anandi and Shiv, and Shyam opposite Khushi and Arnav in IPK and the list goes on.


So the third angle track was very much the part of MEIEJ story from the beginning except that viewers made them shelve it, only to take it back now in VD's absence. Welcome to the bumpy road of managing production schedules and working as "The show must go on" on real like RK (Raj Kapoor) concept.

Masculine Villains and Masculine attempts
Having written all that...I have to say, I don't like third angles. NOT AT ALL. But anyways, due to lack of organic growth in the story, I would have left the show anyways. However, my advise to the production house is ...to create formidable enemies for RK in a MASCULINE Business Sense (like RIVALRY, MERCENARY motives) rather than trying to make the ANTAGONISTS go for his WIFE. Imagine someone going for a Gauri Khan right under Shahrukh's nose 🤪For God's sake don't make it Ramayana and Ravana-Sita angle, instead, make it Mahabharata with epic proportions of forces to be defeated by RK. He has too many enemies lying low ...waiting for his barbaadi due to his acid tongue. There is Kuku, there is Dips and there might be so many others. Why do they all have to go for Madhu, instead of just him ?

Sitara Studio
Oh! I wish a story, where RK's father's failed history comes up through this third angle and somehow, it all becomes a reason for RK to launch Madhu has his heroine in his next self-launched production and in the process open up the closed Sitara Studios.

wow i havent seen someone talking so much sense before in forum 😲
@RED - best part 👏 ...its like Ram-Sita-Ravan love triangle 😆
this love triangl wud have made some sense when RK-Madhu were NOT married, now it doesnt 😆...they cud have just kept him as RK's rival or enemy
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

'RK-Madhu, jealousy and the latest third angle (jealousy vis-a-vis RK and a third angle vis-a-vis Madhu)'.

Admitting at the outset that I loved Avinesh as 'Kabir' in "Chhal".😳😆 It's a different matter that the story there went way offkilter towards the end.😕

But I do *not* want him around the RK-Madhu pairing in any shade, positive or negative. I would also not have wanted any actor I *liked* in such a role vis-a-vis the Kabir-Aditi pairing.

Pairings we love should not have actors we like as third angle. It makes for unpleasantness - because there's no scope for conflict. I want the pairing preserved. The actor can always get another role.

Third angles - at least in Hindi serials - are generally never good for any pairing. However differently or well it's handled, everything soon descends into the absolute realm of cliche. TRPs never permit anything else.

And one keeps reading about jealousy helping RK and Madhu draw closer.

But RK's character does not seem to be the type to draw closer through jealousy or displeasure.

He tends to distance himself if he feels he is being made insecure, whether or not it was intended by the other person.

If he feels the other person is prioritizing someone else, he estranges himself or strikes out to hurt or both.

This is not going to be an ego battle that Madhu will win if she tries to play hard-to-get.

If her attention strays or he starts to feel jealousy, his past experience with Dips will be the spectre at his side eating away at his trust in Madhu.

The more Madhu gives in absolutely to her feelings, the more RK is completely immersed in their relationship.

There are so many points that would be playful or sweetly teasing between a couple in marriage and/or romance, and almost all of those are potential landmines for Madhu in establishing her relationship with RK, given the number of bad memories and absolute erosion of regard for most aspects of marriage and relationships that Radha and Dipali have caused in him.

If RK feels a third angle is making advances towards Madhu (even without her reciprocating), the indeterminate effect it will have on his tenderness towards Madhu is a horrid downside so early in the relationship.

This is not the sort of story in which Madhu would get an ego-boost from her guy going wild with jealousy.

RK's mild version of jealousy was at the party, when he thought Madhu had come to the party at Radha's telling rather than his own.

It reduced Madhu from his 'beautiful wife' that he proudly went around introducing to each guest directly to waitress.

That was his jealousy with his *mother* as the third angle.

I do not want to see what his reaction will be if his jealousy is provoked with a potentially - even remotely - romantic third angle, negative or not, antagonist or not.

Madhu's loyalty and devotion get her the right to bully him, scold him, be irate or tease him.

Madhu as someone else's focus would destroy the growing tenderness of RK's focus on her.

And as someone who was depressed with the waitress stint, I do *not* want to see the hurt she may suffer from any fresh bout of jealousy he may feel about her with another guy in the picture.

This is a relationship in which jealousy is likely to be a corrosive rather than a building agent, and wish to God the CVs had not decided to bring up a third angle when the two basic angles of the relationship are still a long way from being stably bonded to each other.


i think R.K in a fit of rage might just throw madhu out of his life and then we will have madhu getting into the industry,maybe then R.K will realise he has been played and try to win her back,so now we have the hero,the anti-hero and the heroin on the same platform,but for all thsi to happen they have to show the R.K and madhus relation has really progressed.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: johnnylucky

Nice post Lela. Agree with you. Going with RK's charecter he really does'nt need third party to recognize his love. If Cv's are planning to bring this new guy to entertain viewers in the VD's absence in Jan then why not they use him for Trishna's love track.

Thanks, dear.😊
Agree absolutely with you re. RK's character.😳
Avinesh has been a lead and made a fine impression, so the Trishna actress would probably have to be changed to suit the requirements of chemistry for such a parallel track.😛 There are already too many distracting supporting characters.😕 A parallel pairing would be too much.
As you said, RK doesn't need a third party to recognize his love.😳 And Madhu's biological father is still waiting in the wings to pop out. So bringing this new guy in just seems not really needed when so much of the Bhatia clutter is still not cleared out.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Leela
Was super excited today coz finally after all these days I was able to get hold of an internet at my cousin's place..
But the excitemtt did not last for long 🤢🤢 .. What a shocker..😲😲 New entry in Madhu's life..Yikes!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aanchal_c


i think R.K in a fit of rage might just throw madhu out of his life and then we will have madhu getting into the industry,maybe then R.K will realise he has been played and try to win her back,so now we have the hero,the anti-hero and the heroin on the same platform,but for all thsi to happen they have to show the R.K and madhus relation has really progressed.

Aanchal, RK simply saying he wouldn't work on any set that had Kukku's supplies meant that several of Kukku's contracts got cancelled.
If a star fights with someone, no one else will touch that person and sometimes even family members of that person.
Madhu's sister was thrown out of a role as an extra because RK was pissed off with the family.
And if it's a star's wife... Madhu is treated differently on sets depending on whether RK treats her nicely or not.😕
A nobody can become a star with incredible luck. But if you're married to someone already hugely influential in the industry, then you will not get ahead unless your spouse is backing you either actively or passively.
If RK were to turn away from Madhu, no one would dare hire her even as an extra. There's no altruism, and anyone helping Madhu would destroy her as a tool to strike at RK.
For Madhu's heroine track, it's essential that she and RK be together and in love.😳
The pre-series promos made it clear that he would lovingly mould her into an actress.😃 He will make her a heroine.😳 Any temporary estrangement for whatever reason may only be later.😊
Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago

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