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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Doves,


Briliant ! Brilliant !! Brilliant !!!!

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

Ratings: 5/5
⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

We are yet to know why RK chose to become a Superstar. And we are yet to see Madhu realize that Madhu cannot be forever happy with sacrifice or never know what dreams mean. We know that Rishabh Kundra cannot be living life like that, building moat around the castle of RK from the rest of the world. So far I am happy that MB has been able to cross the moat and reach him and that too because he allowed her to. Which clearly means he wants to change, fills the gaps he has. Just like he made up with his God. Likewise, MB needs to get seperated from her family and explore her future and what is in store for her. She may have talents that she never knew.
RK has never tried to know MB like MB is getting to know RK. He doesn't know what she is truly like except that she is caring. So that's another chapter in their life of getting to know each other.

I was watching this video...

Listen to the statement ...Is tezi se Ugta hue Sooraj ki nazar padi Us Sitaare par...and that sooraj (RK as the Sun) leads the other tanha tara (Madhu as the lone star). Its so beautiful..

Anyways...I want to ask a permission of yours.
Can I copy your post over my blog? Its just beautiful. It needs to be there as the summary of MEIEJ so far.


SD: That is a super compliment for the sleepy me. Thank you.. thank you 😳 I thought I will reply to you before I head to the bed now. BTW, there are so many views of yours that I liked and wanted to reply but somehow could not comment on all of them. You are a great analyst!!!

I agree with you that Madhu has to realize the real "her" sometime soon rather than living on satisfying other's lives and fancies. I so look forward to how the writers are going to present her as an actor that she is supposed to be and especially the role that RK will play in her life as she takes to that route.

Thanks for that link and especially for the small translation in the brackets (my Hindi is very limited :-))

Please do copy. I have no issues and I am very happy that you liked it. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

Was waiting so long to read your analysis of Madhu.. Loved it.. You paint a much better picture of Madhu than the CVs...

I sure hope whatever flip-flops we are seeing in Madhu's character is not just clunky plot and its all just her growing up stage...

Let me ask you a doubt I have.. What do you think RK feels for Dipzy?


Peaches: I am smitten by both the lead actors. I love them beyond what the CVs portray them to be onscreen. The good thing is that these two actors are first time for me on TV shows. I am glad that I don't have their previous shows' influence on me. It is a different thing that I ogle at VD's looks but that is on the personal front and not just from the character's POV 😉

DD as Madhu I feel is doing an amazing job. She is so BEAUTIFUL and at times more so. I did read there were traces of Geet in her at some points in the show. For me, her antics are justifiable with what is going around her in this show. I just hope she does not become one of those stereotypical so called chirpy and bubbly characters on TV shows that are most often than not are nonsensical to me. I completely blame the writers and CVs for misusing such great talents on TV in such cases. I second your hope that her character is not killed as a result of the writer's clunky work.

It is a nice question that you asked. I really fail to understand the dynamics of what is happening between RK and Dips. What is that he is feeling exactly? Hatred, anger caused by deception, will he go to any extent to show that he detests her? I doubt if he will hurt her the way he did MB initially. From what we see she cheated on him but he never went to any extent to hurt her back or ruin her life in anyway. He doesn't care for Sikky and hence we cannot say that he is holding himself because his step-bro's life is at stake. I don't know who (is it you?) mentioned in this thread that he hates both mother and Dips but then he completely avoids and humiliates Radhaji but he still can be tolerant to Dips. That is a good point. I too wonder about that. He raises his voice and he shouts at her but not as bad as he did with MB or his mother. In fact he gets coy with her (of course that is to reveal her true color but still touching her and speaking so softly and all are not alignable to the feeling of detest he displays). I always thought that he really loved her too much at one point in time and confided in her completely. Probably he was feeling lowly on the personal and professional front at that time and needed someone to be comforted with, but then she royally ditched him. Although he despises her now he is not able to totally negate her as he still feels the pangs. May be not the pangs of love but he probably detests himself for having thought he loved her once and does not want to muddle with her in anyways, leave alone in the form of revenging or hurting her. May be wants to be completely off her, not even wanting to have feeling of hatred for her? Thinks she isn't worth even that?
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

DV,


Infinite likes for your post...

@Madhu's character: Perfect👍🏼



Thank you very much, Zoya!
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Posted: 12 years ago
DV - I wish there is 'like this to death button' for your posts.
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Posted: 12 years ago
DV,

Excellent...Excellent analyses on Madhu 👏👏...I agree with you completely...This helps
us understand her a lot... 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: DovesView


DD as Madhu I feel is doing an amazing job. She is so BEAUTIFUL and at times more so. I did read there were traces of Geet in her at some points in the show. For me, her antics are justifiable with what is going around her in this show. I just hope she does not become one of those stereotypical so called chirpy and bubbly characters on TV shows that are most often than not are nonsensical to me. I completely blame the writers and CVs for misusing such great talents on TV in such cases. I second your hope that her character is not killed as a result of the writer's clunky work.


If you all watch the video link I posted, DD clearly says that right now she is just playing the next door girl character. And that she is already in awe with the all effort that other characters are putting in towards the story. She acknowledges that her real test and efforts will come up when she has to become the actor in the story. At that point, she would have character development and her acting prowess would be required...that's what she said


You know where I like DD best playing Madhu, it i when she is with Padmini and sharing her thoughts. That's when I feel DD is bringing out Madhu. Because there she becomes so different from Geet. And I will say this. Madhu doesn't cry like Geet. For that differentiation I have to appreciate DD. 👏 👏 She just is very different here. Very and I get a peep into Madhu's soul in those moments.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Siri22

DV - I wish there is 'like this to death button' for your post.



Siri: Hahahaha... that sounds like a nice button to have. I would end up using it for you guys beyond the limits of its usage I am sure... 😆

Thanks you!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: himbin

DV,


Excellent...Excellent analyses on Madhu 👏👏...I agree with you completely...This helps
us understand her a lot... 😊


Thank you very much, Hima!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: DovesView


It is a nice question that you asked. I really fail to understand the dynamics of what is happening between RK and Dips. What is that he is feeling exactly? Hatred, anger caused by deception, will he go to any extent to show that he detests her? I doubt if he will hurt her the way he did MB initially. From what we see she cheated on him but he never went to any extent to hurt her back or ruin her life in anyway. He doesn't care for Sikky and hence we cannot say that he is holding himself because his step-bro's life is at stake. I don't know who (is it you?) mentioned in this thread that he hates both mother and Dips but then he completely avoids and humiliates Radhaji but he still can be tolerant to Dips. That is a good point. I too wonder about that. He raises his voice and he shouts at her but not as bad as he did with MB or his mother. In fact he gets coy with her (of course that is to reveal her true color but still touching her and speaking so softly and all are not alignable to the feeling of detest he displays). I always thought that he really loved her too much at one point in time and confided in her completely. Probably he was feeling lowly on the personal and professional front at that time and needed someone to be comforted with, but then she royally ditched him. Although he despises her now he is not able to totally negate her as he still feels the pangs. May be not the pangs of love but he probably detests himself for having thought he loved her once and does not want to muddle with her in anyways, leave alone in the form of revenging or hurting her. May be wants to be completely off her, not even wanting to have feeling of hatred for her? Thinks she isn't worth even that?

Hmm.. I dont know DV.. I was thinking that RK entered filmdom after Sikky's flop film? Or maybe RK was a struggling actor before he got a film?

If he had loved Dipzy too much, he will hate her too much for what she did.. Somehow I dont get the feeling that he hates her too much.. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction and all that.. He does hate her, but too much? Dont think so.. He is angry with her.. But not angry as he is with his mother.. The difference might be that he loved his mother too much.. So that when his mother broke his belief and confidence in her he got very very angry with her.. Thats the only way I can explain why he acts so differently with them both.. Dipzy.. Well... If he is completely off her, then he would plainly tell Dipzy to keep away him and he will make sure that she understands him.. He is not really doing that, is he? I didnt make any sense here, did I?

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: DovesView


It is a nice question that you asked. I really fail to understand the dynamics of what is happening between RK and Dips. What is that he is feeling exactly? Hatred, anger caused by deception, will he go to any extent to show that he detests her? I doubt if he will hurt her the way he did MB initially. From what we see she cheated on him but he never went to any extent to hurt her back or ruin her life in anyway. He doesn't care for Sikky and hence we cannot say that he is holding himself because his step-bro's life is at stake. I don't know who (is it you?) mentioned in this thread that he hates both mother and Dips but then he completely avoids and humiliates Radhaji but he still can be tolerant to Dips. That is a good point. I too wonder about that. He raises his voice and he shouts at her but not as bad as he did with MB or his mother. In fact he gets coy with her (of course that is to reveal her true color but still touching her and speaking so softly and all are not alignable to the feeling of detest he displays). I always thought that he really loved her too much at one point in time and confided in her completely. Probably he was feeling lowly on the personal and professional front at that time and needed someone to be comforted with, but then she royally ditched him. Although he despises her now he is not able to totally negate her as he still feels the pangs. May be not the pangs of love but he probably detests himself for having thought he loved her once and does not want to muddle with her in anyways, leave alone in the form of revenging or hurting her. May be wants to be completely off her, not even wanting to have feeling of hatred for her? Thinks she isn't worth even that?


Dipzy story
I always brush off my view on Dipzy when anyone asks me to talk on her. Because I detest her so much. But then I don't fail to notice what she is upto.

As to why RK doesn't ignore Dips or punish Dips like he does with his mother or Madhu.
For simplicity take, let's just take Radhaji and Dips and compare.

Both are wedded to Bhatias who are that "gale me haddi" for him.
He is ditched by both the women. Difference is HE FEELS his mother has ditched whereas HE KNOWS that Dips ditched him.
Feels is speculative. Knows is Truth.
Which hurts more. And which stays. Truth will always stay. Feelings will go away.

He is not disgusted with his mother. He is just angry and feels betrayed, but rationally knows that his mother did not commit any wrong. Over the years his complaint with his Mom is ..."Doosron pe itna Vishawaas, Apne pe nahin ?" He ignores her wilfully so that she gets hurt each day. He still is being the child to her in his own manner.
The reason why he keeps saying she doesn't exist for him, is because she is associated with Bhatias and is not a Kundra anymore except for the fact that she gave birth to him when she was a Kundra.

He is disgusted by Dips. Because she is an opportunist. And if that was not enough, she is ready to be an adulteress as well. As she has no principles left.

To me, I always felt, RK just cannot hate Dips or ignore, but can only get disgusted. And most of the disgust is diverted on himself only. As in how could he trust himself with her ? How ? How?

When I am disgusted, I am highly affected. It's repelling feeling that you get all over.

As for hate ...hate is another side of feeling like love. Hate also means closeness. So RK cannot hate Dips as he will not want to assign any dignity of thinking about her. Hate leads to vengeful feelings and that means thinking about the subject. Now why would you want to hate someone whom you detest so much that it reminds of your achilles heel and instead would you just not think about them and avoid under all circumstances So that's another for saying she does not exist and yet tolerating her for the family's sake as she inhabits the same house married to the Bhatias.

The disgusting feeling around Dips will go away only once RK accepts that even he is allowed to make mistakes. Until then he is gonna keep her in his mind. That's my take on the situation.

If you ask me ..RK is an IDIOT who lives with that ZOO Family of his.
Now I don't understand, if that is plot clunkiness brought in for us to know RK through Madhu or there is more to it. We know they were all introduced after Madhu got married to him. So it is Plot Clunkiness for me.
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