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Posted: 12 years ago
Hey all,

Recently I was asking you all, if anyone knows at which studio Madhu was born. So I just watched some recap videos and I got the answer.

She is born at none other than NATARAJ Studios. Ha Ha !!! What a scoop!!!

  • She is born at Nataraj Studio.
  • RK the Superstar is shooting for his movie Kayanaath @ Nataraj Studio.
  • She meets RK for the first time at Nataraj Studio
  • She gets married to RK at Nataraj Studio.
  • She leaves RK's house and comes to Nataraj Studio when she is terribly upset and cannot go anywhere.
  • She starts to know RK at Nataraj Studio, including the night that she spends with him there.
  • Each saved the other once at the same studio.
So I guess their love-story will also start over that studio.
Remember the heroine is not yet short-listed for Kayanath at the outset of the story. Not sure what's the status now. Will Madhu become the heroine for Kayanaath ?

😆 😆

So is it Plot Clunkiness ? or CVs incapacity to go for alternate studio names. They just keep using Nataraj Studio for MB-RK story.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Siri22


Hey peach...

I had a problem with mads expressions only yday. Which I blame the director. Her expressions were off putting. Rolling her eyes that's so not Madhu. Otherwise she's good.

And coming to RK's expressions I feel strictly my opinion that he has AMAZING screen presence which makes up for his lack of emoting sometimes.

I hope I don't come off as a RK phangurl. We had enough drama on IPK forum with ASR vs Khushi and I don't want the same here esp. in this thread. My apologies to any Madhu fans.

Hopefully on Moday we'll all be gushing about a romantic moment.😳

Hey Siri..

I dont think there are any hard core Madhu/DD/VD/RK fans in this thread.. Everyone takes the comments in the sense it is said.. Or I like to think so.. People have different opinion and views abt a character and they express it... Not many will fight over fictional characters..

I makes comments on RK's hot body just for the sake of it... I am never serious when I say that.. 😊 Or the millions of stupid comments I make in this thread and in my threads.. I dont even admire Rishabala as a couple.. Thats why I say my posts as rubbish and fraud.. They are just a means for me to indulge in my creativity and explore new territories..

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Siri22



I had a problem with mads expressions only yday. Which I blame the director. Her expressions were off putting. Rolling her eyes that's so not Madhu. Otherwise she's good.

And coming to RK's expressions I feel strictly my opinion that he has AMAZING screen presence which makes up for his lack of emoting sometimes.

I hope I don't come off as a RK phangurl. We had enough drama on IPK forum with ASR vs Khushi and I don't want the same here esp. in this thread. My apologies to any Madhu fans.

Hopefully on Moday we'll all be gushing about a romantic moment.😳


Siri,
Don't worry. I am with you. I am echoing your sentiments. Though I too am scared if all others feel intimidated of my sentiments..I mean hat rant yesterday. Thankfully Peach allows me the freedom to differ with her in healthy manner.

Peach,
Hugs! 🤗
Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
I could not watch the episode yesterday. Watched it today and read some of the takes here and I tend to agree with most of them. Nice takes and thanks everyone for such nice writing. I enjoy my time out here.

I for one don't understand where exactly is the delineation between RK and Rishab. I want to try and accept @SD's view on RK and Rishab becoming one, now that he has made peace with his father's loss. But somehow I feel that is not just that. I mean of course yes, that is a major reason why Rishab turned into the hard shell he is, but he still has a lot of things that he has to come to terms with. For example, the facts such as his mother could share her life with someone else besides himself and his father, Dips who rigged him, may be there are instances in his professional life too when he experienced knavery in many forms, and the fact that he had to fend for himself in the big bad industry.

Until a few days ago, he was quite certain that everyone around him and even outside of his family were pure opportunists. He was of the same impression about Madhu too if we notice carefully. He was so sure and even he says so in the hospital when he makes a deal for marriage with her, if not for the money that Madhu needed to save her dad, why on earth would she marry him was his bait. His stake on the purpose of her agreeing to marry him is absolutely correct from his standpoint. The Bhatia's, Dips, Madhu, the industry he is associated all have a purpose in being associated to him. He is very sure that they are all clinging to him and he is not bound by any of them for any reason whatsoever. He detests his mother for sure but not as a person with motive but for the mere reason that she could allow a third person into their world which he considers his sanctum. That is why whenever Madhu proves herself to be someone who is not behind his fame, power and money, he staunch beliefs are rattled. And he does not like to believe that he could be wrong. His ego for being the person gets shaken and he dislikes being cornered, exposed, made to feel vulnerable, or being at the mercy of.

The character that Rishab weaved himself into as RK for his self-defense is not real. It is just an armor that Rishab uses to shield himself from the outside elements that are deceptive and illusional. Underneath RK, Rishab is weltering in self-pity for the loss in his life, family, love etc. RK will disappear in his entirety only when he comes out of his self-inflicted miseries. Then Rishab will be resurrected.

If we equate Madhu's early life, she faces almost similar or worse situations than what RK has faced. She had learnt that her birth was unwished-for (may be through Pads, Trish, Malik, or neighbors) by her own biological father. She has a father's name on the records who showers her with unconditional love but then she cannot address him as her father. She understand and respects her mother's and Malik's unconventional relationship but sees that the society around them have problems with it and are scorned for it at different times in their lives (faces the social stigma). She has seen her mother toiling to bring up the two girls single-handedly. There is her sister who is always dreaming big in life but without working much on achieving it. She witnessed how the irresponsibility showed on her mother's physical and mental health. We have witnessed how Trish as a girl was always hanging out at the sets gaping at the heroines and dreaming of becoming one and as result was failing to keep up with the basic responsibilities such as on the educational front. These are difficulties that eventually drained and stressed her mother out. So at a young age Madhu started to palpate other's problems, started to think too much and feel from other's perspective.

She started growing up as a people's person. She learnt to keep her expectations and dreams limited and simple so that her mother will not find it hard to nurture her growing mind and body. She curtailed herself from looking beyond a certain point at the vast world. She is happy to live with the world she knows and live in the comfort given to her and giving it to her people. Her near and dear ones are her world. Her priority in life is to live a content life with what she had. She believes in stretching her hands only so far she can and grab what's available within and be content with it. She made best use of the education she could get, the dwelling place she got, the friends she could make, the career that could give her enough money to support her mother, the support that she could give her sister so that the latter could achieve her dreams, the unconditional love that she has for her foster father, etc. She has seen lots of pain and struggle in life and she was exposed to such an insignificant life that she never aspired to become big for the mere reason that that would burden her loved ones more. Her compassionate and giving in nature was what kindled her to help the creep, paved way for her to meet with and fight her destiny, got her engaged to the creep, and eventually ended up marrying the beast in an unpleasant condition. With all these we can easily conclude that the character portrayal so far is weak, influential, and incompetent. At the outset what @SD says is absolutely correct. But I think that's the plan of the CVs to paint a naive picture at the outset and take us through the journey of its evolution into a strong, successful, and savvy character. Amidst her naivety, they show us the strength of the character too when she stands her ground in what she believes in(although some of the instances are unrealistic and dim-witted right now, but we can discount them on the fact that her exposure to life is not much to expect anything out of ordinary right now). We do get a glimpse of the characters that she possesses that will spell success to her eventually. Her persistent, brave, never-say-quit, focussed, optimistic characters (that are a little obscure although right now) will help her evolve into the kind of strong character that she is destined to be in the show. Methinks.

If the two lead characters are juxtaposed, the underlying emotional state of both are almost similar. But the way the two individuals handled the situations are extremely different. Both are from a broken/dysfunctional family. Both of them seemed to have had some materialistic constrains during the growing years (remember Radhaji saying that she was afraid to cope up alone as Rishab was too young to handle as a single parent, i took that to be her fears for monetary stability), both lacked the informed guidance in their decision about their life and future and so many other things. One sought to the aggressive measures to achieve what he wanted turning a blind eye to the losses and pain it caused and the other sought to become submissive so that it would cause less pain for self and others. The story telling would grow in the direction of making the two individuals tread the path which will teach them the right way to live and love. We will get the entertainment of watching them tread this dark path of love and life. The emotional ride that they will take us through will be worth watching I hope. We will surely visualize some flip-flops (like the dim-wits and other not so good moments that we get to tolderate now) here and there but I hope the entire journey will be worthwhile.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0


Siri,
Don't worry. I am with you. I am echoing your sentiments. Though I too am scared if all others feel initimated of my sentiments..I mean hat rant yesterday. Thankfully Peach allows me the freedom to differ with her in healthy manner.

Peach,
Hugs! 🤗

SD, I believe I have more sense than to fight with you over RK-Madhu... Both of us say what we think about the characters.. We agree to disagree in our views... Doesnt mean that we dont understand each other's POV, does it? 🤗

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Posted: 12 years ago

DV, Thats a long post from you.. 🤗 Let me go read it now..

Btw, shouldnt you be in bed now? Having a late night?

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

DV, Thats a long post from you.. 🤗 Let me go read it now..

Btw, shouldnt you be in bed now? Having a late night?


Hey Peaches, thank you <hugs you back>. Yeah, it is well beyond my bedtime but my midday nap today spoilt my nighttime sleep. Am hanging out here until I get sleep :-)
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Posted: 12 years ago
Doves,

Briliant ! Brilliant !! Brilliant !!!!

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

Ratings: 5/5
⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

OMG!!!! You summed up everything there.

Me too willing to forgive all flaws as both the characters help each other grow. Because that's how it should be. I am all up for to see that kind of evolving influence on each other.

I so agree, that both have to conquer their weakness and explore the things that they have foregone in their journey so far. We all should not forget that, even RK if he is a Superstar, he doesn't consider it as a Dream come true. Instead he calls it a drama ...a drama I guess coming out of slighted remarks from his foster father, foster brother or the failed father's dreams. Who knows.

We are yet to know why RK chose to become a Superstar. And we are yet to see Madhu realize that Madhu cannot be forever happy with sacrifice or never know what dreams mean. We know that Rishabh Kundra cannot be living life like that, building moat around the castle of RK from the rest of the world. So far I am happy that MB has been able to cross the moat and reach him and that too because he allowed her to. Which clearly means he wants to change, fills the gaps he has. Just like he made up with his God. Likewise, MB needs to get seperated from her family and explore her future and what is in store for her. She may have talents that she never knew.
RK has never tried to know MB like MB is getting to know RK. He doesn't know what she is truly like except that she is caring. So that's another chapter in their life of getting to know each other.

I was watching this video...

Listen to the statement ...Is tezi se Ugta hue Sooraj ki nazar padi Us Sitaare par...and that sooraj (RK as the Sun) leads the other tanha tara (Madhu as the lone star). Its so beautiful..

God knows if they are going to stick to this original story...

Anyways...I want to ask a permission of yours.
Can I copy your post over my blog? Its just beautiful. It needs to be there as the summary of MEIEJ so far. I will credit the write-up under author Dovesview 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago

Was waiting so long to read your analysis of Madhu.. Loved it.. You paint a much better picture of Madhu than the CVs...

I sure hope whatever flip-flops we are seeing in Madhu's character is not just clunky plot and its all just her growing up stage...

Let me ask you a doubt I have.. What do you think RK feels for Dipzy?

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Posted: 12 years ago
DV,

Infinite likes for your post...

@Madhu's character: Perfect👍🏼
Edited by zoya_naziya - 12 years ago

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