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Foucaults-qalam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: shridevigaddam
I don't believe much in rituals. So I don't care if it is 4 pheras or 7 pheras. For me thought itself matters that you are my husband and I am your wife. And in this case, RK is very clear. Control freak that he is, he made the marriage totally break-proof or pain-proof for himself just in case MB wants to betray him, leave him or wish bad for him.
And MB was willing to be dead soul in the marriage when she entered the deal. She should atleast wait until Shamsher Malik gets cured. The doctor said that Shamsher will be hospitalized for 6 months to get healed and that charge was 25 lakhs. 15 lakhs was for the surgical operation to stop the internal bleeding.

I don't understand this phera business. Amongst rajput families ( the tradition I know best and which have generations of pundits to check all their rituals, which they are absolute sticklers for) there are always 4 pheras. I think 7 pheras is a punjabi/ sindhi tradition that has become naturalised through its representation in Bollywood movies.

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: applenpeaches
Does Madhu consider herself married? I think she does.. She listens to RK whenever he says something and even agreed to sleep in his room (though for his mother).. When will she start seeing the Rishabh behind the RK? Can we expect that any time soon?

actually, all her gestures from Day one are of assuming herself married. It is RK who keeps reminding her that she is half-wife just to tease her. And MB doesn't lke that. After the last fiasco of getting everything on paper, then she decided to play the RK card and started calling herself Aadhi-Adhuri wife. Both of them are getting hurt with the Aadhi-Adhuri biwi term. One or the other way, both feel low if the other reminds about it.

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Sonu

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Posted: 13 years ago

#43

Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam

I don't understand this phera business. Amongst rajput families ( the tradition I know best and which have generations of pundits to check all their rituals, which they are absolute sticklers for) there are always 4 pheras. I think 7 pheras is a punjabi/ sindhi tradition that has become naturalised through its representation in Bollywood movies.

Where I live, the hindu marriage is very confusing... There are hardly any pheras.. May be one or two atmost.. Somedont even take any.. Looks to me the hindu religious rites are very liberal... Most hindu marriages dont even have a pundit.. Often the girl's or boy's relative will instruct what to do... Do this.. Do that... Its all over before it begins...

It was always very confusing for me!

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Sonu

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Posted: 13 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya
^^ Sonu,I guess that started with the night out at Natraj studio... Otherwse she would not have said i saw a new side of her "UNHONE"...

That unhone business is a hit! RK melts every time he hears it... 😆

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam

I don't understand this phera business. Amongst rajput families ( the tradition I know best and which have generations of pundits to check all their rituals, which they are absolute sticklers for) there are always 4 pheras. I think 7 pheras is a punjabi/ sindhi tradition that has become naturalised through its representation in Bollywood movies.

And for south Indian wedding, the pheras are not that important as the tying of Mangal Sutra and putting on the toe rings is.

Pheras are like vows. Now won't the christian wedding be termed a marriage if the bride and groom exchanged rings and said minimal vows.

And vows ..before a crowd, do we even understand what we are committing to. Its in Sanskrit, and I myself sleepily married and my cousins were hardly paying attention to the rituals.

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Sonu

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Posted: 13 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: shridevigaddam

And for south Indian wedding, the pheras are not that important as the tying of Mangal Sutra and putting on the toe rings is.

Pheras are like vows. Now won't the christian wedding be termed a marriage if the bride and groom exchanged rings and said minimal vows.

And vows ..before a crowd, do we even understand what we are committing to. Its in Sanskrit, and I myself sleepily married and my cousins were hardly paying attention to the rituals.

In christian marriages, the bride and groom dont verbally say any vows (like in the west..) during marriage.. But its all there within the wedding ceremony... And we do understand it bcos its in our native language- not in Hebrew or Latin.. So that not only the bride and groom but also the ones already married understands what marriage means..

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Foucaults-qalam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#47

Amonst rajputs there is no mangalsutra. But signs of marriage ( sindur, mangaltika, toe rings) are given to the bride. Out of these she only wears the toe rings every day. The look v pretty. No one wears a mangalsutar, thank god. It totally messes with other jewellery.

Another Bollywood naturalisation, I think.

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam
Amonst rajputs there is no mangalsutra. But signs of marriage ( sindur, mangaltika, toe rings) are given to the bride. Out of these she only wears the toe rings every day. The look v pretty. No one wears a mangalsutar, thank god. It totally messes with other jewellery.

Another Bollywood naturalisation, I think.

I too don't like Mangalsutra. It messes up the other jewellery. Atleast the south Indian one has choices. You can wear it in gold chain style and make it basic ornament or go for the black beads one if you want to keep it simple. I never wanted to wear one and thankfully I am now courageous enuf not to wear it. As I like to keep the sign though, I wear toe rings.

When I was in Delhi, the signs of marriage for the Punjabi Hindu women was Sindhoor and Mathe ki Bindi. There was no concept of Mangal sutra. Soon in 90's we saw Karwa Chauth picking up commercial success for merchants and women alike. Gold shopping, saree/clothes shopping. At this time I saw the new fashion coming up for Mangal sutra (the black beads one). So ladies started wearing it for the occassion only.

Then Ekta Mata came on Televsion and she made the black-bead Mangalsutra - a UNIFORM CIVIL CODE...all women of India barring the southern and Eastern states will be seen wearing Mangal sutra.

So it is our Soap Queen who nationalized it like crazy ! Otherwise I used to know for each state what was considered the sign of marriage.

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Do note that Indian Govt Employees were waging a long battle with Govt for Dearness Allowance increase for their salary component. It was in 90's that they won. And from then onwards there was a little increase in disposable income for the Govt Salaried employees. So all those jewellery and lesser known fanciful festivals becoming a hit.