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Posted: 12 years ago

#31

I don't agree with you about the first logic... I have seen few people becoming heartless after losing someone they loved the most... First who knows maybe even before his dad's death he wasn't close to his mom... We saw so many flashbacks with his dad but never with his mom... Second as every kid he wanted his mom to love him, to help him forget the horrible thing... instead she got married with a psycho like Bhatiya... Did his mom really love his dad ? If yes then how can she love someone else ? How can she even think of happiness when he is dying without his dad ? Kids are kids... They don't use dimaag they use dil... So many questions... It's easy for a child to get influenced... here his little voice and heart influenced him... He started hating his mom, went away from her and hugged loneliness and hatred... He is heartless but does he have a heart... Isn't it already broken into pieces ? How can he have a heart and love people like he was the female version of Cinderella

I agree Radha's entry... I guess it's her name... 🤔 was pathetic... They could atleast show that she was forced by her husband to stay away from RK... This is the only logic possible 😕

Mr. Bhatiya and his bandar son don't care of RK so they were having vacations... Kyun wahan se aaye just for someone they don't like 🤔

Why can't she look like a typical housewife 🤔 Money hai kapde hai jewelry bhi hai... 😆 In fact I think it's normal she is wearing all thse things because sometimes in Indian serial they show rubbishes like the lady isn't rich but will wear things like if she was a queen 🤪

And Why can't she make sabzi... She is human not an alien 🤣 Maan kya so she cooked for his son... And she even said that his son won't eat if he comes to know that she made the sabzi... So means she rarely goes to the kitchen but that day she really wanted to make herself happy not RK... I am sure she is broken... Every mother wants to make yummilicious food for their children but she is not lucky...

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-anoshka-

@-anoshka-

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Posted: 12 years ago

#32

I'm sorry but I don't fully agree with your post dear. I know even in real lives, people in present are because of their past. What I'm trying to say is past matters. RK is not angry because his mom remarried...but maybe something happened to him, we all know how manipulative kuku is, who knows what happened...children at rks young age, who lost one person who he was very close to him might turn aloof...

RK is attracted to Madhu somehow..Madhu is giving RK some goals and challenge in his otherwise boring and dull life..he doesn't realise it but she will change few of his negative things...you know few of my friends are studying minds of serial killers...it's their project, it's very interesting to know why they are what they are...I'm not trying to defend or justify any criminals, just saying, if something bad happens to me or my family, I wouldn't stop and thing, oh wait why did he do this, bla bla..but I'm just justifying rks character at the moment...he's a loner..he's got so much passion bottleted up inside, it would be so interesting to find out how much would he love a person. Don't you think? I wanna see his passion, fire, passiveness ...omg..even thing of it gives me goosebumps...

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pretstill

@pretstill

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Posted: 12 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: Nu_Adu

Kids younger and older than 12 experience parents getting divorced, separated and re-married to others every day.

But I know the makers will slowly shed more light on his past as the show progresses. I'm just saying right now I'm having trouble accepting his family into the story.

I must say I seriously dislike it when an intelligent commentator is bullied on a thread by people who seem to equate critical viewing with this monster called 'bashing". The poster made cogent, well-argued points in a very polite, well-expressed and urbane manner. There are absolutely no grounds to try and coerce them into a retraction.

I love Madhubala, and I am sure so does the poster. That is why are here, to share our thoughts with others who like it too. But if we demand higher standards of writing, directing and production-- by offering constructive critical input, we should not be run off the forum for our trouble. However, if we the viewers send out a message that we will swallow any old bilge fed to us-- we are not doing any favours to anyone.

I am a writer myself, and I'd rather that my readers argue and debate with me on the world I have created for them, rather than to passively accept everything I churn out. There is zero creative satisfaction in that.

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sain (nick name)

@abhaylovepia

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Posted: 12 years ago

#34

We hope they should include some points from RK childhood like his step father mentally torture him he told his mother but she refused or don't believe or don't understand. because when kukoo said to rk mom that rk insulted him on set but never told her that he is also insulting him and never feel sorry for the accident, when she was crying he was smiling and said i don't understand what i done wrong with marry u, my son say u mom and he accept u but not rk he never accept me. i think they should show some tracks from rk childhood that he was torturing him and slowly slowly rk loose his trust on his mother and don't tell her that how kukoo teasing him or how he torture him.

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Sadnya

@sadumaneet

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Posted: 12 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: pretstill
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I must say I seriously dislike it when an intelligent commentator is bullied on a thread by people who seem to equate critical viewing with this monster called 'bashing". The poster made cogent, well-argued points in a very polite, well-expressed and urbane manner. There are absolutely no grounds to try and coerce them into a retraction.

I love Madhubala, and I am sure so does the poster. That is why are here, to share our thoughts with others who like it too. But if we demand higher standards of writing, directing and production-- by offering constructive critical input, we should not be run off the forum for our trouble. However, if we the viewers send out a message that we will swallow any old bilge fed to us-- we are not doing any favours to anyone.
I am a writer myself, and I'd rather that my readers argue and debate with me on the world I have created for them, rather than to passively accept everything I churn out. There is zero creative satisfaction in that.

first u really need to read my reply on 4 th page second iam also sharing my pov if u read properly i also mention logical things only but if u think by showing completely disagreement iam running away so i tell u its really not what u think i don't need to defend this show as makers are already doing it and u really don't have to compare my post with bashing iam replying with much more ease and lastly i really don't care what u think about my post as long as iam truthful to my intentions . iam still not understood whats wrong in my post that u gave me such long lecture on writer and readers i hope ur clear with ur intetions one more thing why my reply is on stake when there are so many had replied with same manner ur answerable for this question

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afshan

@afsh4a

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Posted: 12 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: TheBlackJaguar
Completely disagree.

1. You can never predict how any human mind is going to react to a certain situation or how it is going to shape them as an individual. Rishabh has been shown as a hypersensitive 12 year old whose father's death's mystery is yet to be revealed - as his mom has mentioned ' that one super traumatic night' . He could not accept his mother's second marriage , had a terrible relationship with his step relatives and he became alienated. So, what you have today is basically a frustoo lost 12 year old locked in past. Besides , who knows Rishabh's whole story? Nobody. You have only seen it in bits and parts.

2. Rishabh is living in his house , his father's house as Kukku Bhatia mentioned. Why should he go anywhere? Its his house and he is putting up with them because of his mother. He is just paying back the blood bond.

3. Yes, numerous industry wives move around like Rishabh's mom. And no, am not talking about immediate Bollywood.

4. Creatives never justify Rishabh's behaviour - they just tell you where he is coming from and that his problem is a troubled lonely childhood.

5. When Rishabh was in jail, the casting and the story points had not been locked, except Razaa Muraad. That is why you got the Bangkok excuse.

The logics of the creatives are totally in place - its just that you perceive the situation with a different POV.

yeah completely agree with you dear...well said..

we should just wait and watch......😊

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Nu_Adu

@Nu_Adu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: pretstill
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I must say I seriously dislike it when an intelligent commentator is bullied on a thread by people who seem to equate critical viewing with this monster called 'bashing". The poster made cogent, well-argued points in a very polite, well-expressed and urbane manner. There are absolutely no grounds to try and coerce them into a retraction.

I love Madhubala, and I am sure so does the poster. That is why are here, to share our thoughts with others who like it too. But if we demand higher standards of writing, directing and production-- by offering constructive critical input, we should not be run off the forum for our trouble. However, if we the viewers send out a message that we will swallow any old bilge fed to us-- we are not doing any favours to anyone.
I am a writer myself, and I'd rather that my readers argue and debate with me on the world I have created for them, rather than to passively accept everything I churn out. There is zero creative satisfaction in that.

That's what I am always on the lookout for. Intelligent and constructive discussion. I don't like threads/posts full of young girls drooling over the main lead's looks and defending his every step and action just because he looks good (not referring to Madhubala here but IPKKND forum).

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Shridevi Gaddam

@0-SD-0

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Posted: 12 years ago

#38

@ Nu_Du and Pretstill

I too love to discuss critical aspects of any show.

And in all openness, I have not seen the points that you mentioned as weak aspect because

1) the lack of information is to keep MB ignorant of RK;s background which makes her look totally prejudiced against RK. So that is an UP point for story moving forward.

2) The dawning of information in this way bowls over the viewer. So the suspense and thrilling element kicks in.

3) This is TRP game, so who know what sort of game runs the show. cannot honour or oblige it in pure fiction treatment.

4) This is daily soap. Everyday it is a different churning. if the family they introduced was not loved by the viewers they may as well send them off to Timbuktoo again.

5) Raza Murad is expensive for the show. So keep watching. From last two episodes, Sikander is shown as providing live updates over phone to him. So here comes cost-cutting 🤣

I guess, this is a wonderful feedback for now.

I completely second your thoughts that critical commentary should not be termed as bashing and ardent fans need not attack us in fear that we will leave the show.

If the psychotic obsession of RK does not let him leave MB even if he hates her, how can our love for shows to watch it all comprehensive mode stop us watching the show just because we became critical of the show. 😆

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Nu_Adu

@Nu_Adu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: shridevigaddam
@ Nu_Du and Pretstill

I too love to discuss critical aspects of any show.
And in all openness, I have not seen the points that you mentioned as weak aspect because

1) the lack of information is to keep MB ignorant of RK;s background which makes her look totally prejudiced against RK. So that is an UP point for story moving forward.

2) The dawning of information in this way bowls over the viewer. So the suspense and thrilling element kicks in.

3) This is TRP game, so who know what sort of game runs the show. cannot honour or oblige it in pure fiction treatment.

4) This is daily soap. Everyday it is a different churning. if the family they introduced was not loved by the viewers they may as well send them off to Timbuktoo again.

5) Raza Murad is expensive for the show. So keep watching. From last two episodes, Sikander is shown as providing live updates over phone to him. So here comes cost-cutting 🤣

I guess, this is a wonderful feedback for now.

I completely second your thoughts that critical commentary should not be termed as bashing and ardent fans need not attack us in fear that we will leave the show.
If the psychotic obsession of RK does not let him leave MB even if he hates her, how can our love for shows to watch it all comprehensive mode stop us watching the show just because we became critical of the show. 😆

I love your point number one. That is truly an 'UP' point as far as the story is concerned. They want Madhu to be shocked at discovering RK's true history and feeling remorseful for having such negative opinions about him.

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parheezGM

@parheezGM

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Posted: 12 years ago

#40

U are so right! The female character is so well etched and she is given such a solid background but rk is all hazy and weakly sketched character.

The point where you said as to where the family was when he was arrested I thought that his mom might be some heartless birch who doesn't give a damn but the opposite happened.

But on the other hand why would a man who has had a healthy upbringing be upset with remarriage? And that too as a grown up??

I think there is more to this. Maybe his current step father was his father 's best frnd or brother and the. Inappropriate behavior is making him like that?

The show's weakest aspect is also the very slow story telling, the pace is not to my liking at all.

Edited by timepassTP - 12 years ago