Sameer, here's how Prithvi is different from you..

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Copy-pasting my reply from Shwet's post here..😳 Because I believe Prithvi deserves his own post i.e. a post in his defense today..Prithvi Saxena is not an angel, and he may be confused as anything..But he has a heart of gold, and I felt particularly fond of him while watching today's episode..😆


Sameer thinks he is not different from Prithvi? That they're the same? I don't agree at all, here's the reason why..

There is still a lot of difference between Sameer imposing as Jai Chawla and Prithvi lying but still remaining Prithvi Saxena.

How?

Damini Gujral didn't know any Prithvi Saxena prior to him entering the Gujral Mansion..Yes, Prithvi entered the Mansion for his father, to collect evidence to prove his innocence..But still, before the death of his father, had Damini come to know about his reality then, I don't think she would have been devastated then..Because it wasn't like Prithvi had a relation to her then or was any important in her life..

Whereas Sameer assumed the identity of Jai Chwala, Avni's childhood friend, his very existence was a lie, in contrast to Prithvi's situation..Had Avni known it about it then, it would have still hurt her to know Sameer's reality, IMHO..


Sameer married Avni, in fact he almost emotionally blackmailed her into marrying him..I know the crime almost remains the same in the end, when Prithvi ultimately marries Damini..But it was Ela Gujral herself who proposed the idea of PriDa marriage..Prithvi didn't even plan for a wedding if we believe his expressions and surprise when the question popped up..So, yes, it might be the same thing but the causes are entirely different. It was a part of Sameer's plan to marry Avni in order to hurt Ela, to go all the way. It was never a part of Prithvi's plan to marry Damini. Yes, when the opportunity presented itself, he grabbed it with both hands, but it wasn't a plan devised by him..So, it is different..


What we do know is that Sameer went all the way with Avni..So far, I haven't seen Prithvi having any such intentions. I won't say he will do the same to Damini just yet..I just can't imagine him doing that..I would assume he won't do it..And if he doesn't want to do it, then I suppose we'll have to hear his reasons to believe them...We can't say anything about something we have no idea of..

I don't think Prithvi and Sameer are in the exact positions..There was not a single indication of any kind of feelings triggering what Sameer did to Avni..Maybe he cared about her even then to some extent, but he went all the way for revenge only..And it was evident from today's vengeful dialogues of Sameer when Prithvi questioned him about his deed..

Is Prithvi going for this marriage out of love or revenge? I don't know..But he is far from being the same as Sameer, unless he does something to prove otherwise..And what did he say today? Those vows mean something to him..So, can we say that Prithvi's reason for marrying Damini is his revenge only? I think not..

Prithvi was being paid to save Damini, yes..But I don't think every paid bodyguard would actually risk their life to save the people they're working for..Had it been that way, and had everyone been so true to their duties, the world would be a more peaceful place right now..😊We can assume things, and that's just an assumption that Sameer would have saved Avni in this kind of situation, but we don't know that for sure..We can't know that unless Sameer does save Avni someday..


And no matter what, Damini Gujral does owe her life to Prirhvi Saxena at the moment..Why? How? How many times? He has saved her. He is out to destroy her mom, yes, but shouldn't he have let her die if he were that serious about his revenge, were that hardhearted? Avni doesn't owe her life to Sameer..Damini owes it to Prithvi..Sounds dramatic, I know..But its a show and it is dramatic..

In sum,

Sameer Saxena entered Avni Gujral's life as a lie, occupying the place of someone else..He took Jai Chawla away from her life, a childhood friend..I agree that Jai Chawla was a joke, and an undesirable man, but I don't think that guy would have harmed Avni in any case..He was harmless..And Sameer assumed his identity to enter the Mansion..

Prithvi took away Inder from Damini. Yes, he was doing it as a part of his revenge, but he did her a huge favor there, a favor she is thankful for, a favor which saved her from a man of low morals, who was just going to marry her for her money, and a favor which saved her from a bad/fake marriage..

Prithvi Saxena was a farce too..But he came to Damini Gujral as himself..Had their father never died, Sameer and Prithvi both would have left the Gujrals maybe..And in that case, nothing would have hurt Damini..

Prithvi Saxena still earns his bread and is not dependent on the Gujrals..
Sameer Saxena's fake identity ensured he is dependent on the Gujrals financially..It doesn't matter that much, but its still a point separating them..

Today, I saw Prithvi concerned about Avni, he said he wouldn't let any injustice happen to her..Sameer showed some vulnerability and humanity in the hospital but later, outside, it seemed he is a stranger to Avni Gujral and has no idea about his feelings..He seemed immune to her suffering..

Prithvi Saxnea seemed concerned about his unborn nephew/niece..Sameer Saxena seemed he couldn't care less about his own would-be child..

Yes, Damini will be devastated and hurt to know his reality..And Im not saying Prithvi has not done a single mistake..He has been wrong, and when the day for justice comes, I'll be on Damini's side..But the difference remains..Has Prithvi ever destroyed Damini or anything related to her beyond repair? No..We all know what Sameer has taken from Avni..

Prithvi, by no definition of the word, is black..He is still a shade of grey..Yes, he has turned the life of Gujrals upside down..And it'll take a lot of time to make things right, but the day he realizes his mistakes, there's a chance he can pay for them all..He can make this right..

Everybody has a chance, so does Sameer Saxena..But I would repeat, Sameer crossed the line between black and gray, Sameer went against humanity with what he did, and his redemption will be a lot more difficult than Prithvi..One more thing which proves they're not the same..

Prithvi is having his doubts now, before doing any ultimate damage..

Sameer is having guilt pangs after damaging something beyond repair..And he keeps going back to that 'black' mode, like he did in the end of today's episode..And Prithvi? In the end today, when he was so concerned about the Gujrals sisters and the child, Prithvi didnt even look grey, he looked almost off white to me..😆 (sowie for the flippancy)


There's a whole lot of difference between Prithvi and Sameer, there's a whole lot of difference between grey and black..Damini will be hurt, she'll be mad, she'll be blinded by rage and lose her senses for some time..But the day she sees reason, the day the initial shock wears off, she'll see the difference..

Sowie for the redundancy, folks..😳

NOTE: Felt like adding this as an afterthought. I am not at all trying to exonerate Prithvi from all the charges here. He is definitely guilty of embarking on a vengeful spree, he is definitely guilty of trying to destroy the Gujrals and to enter Damini's life like this, and I agree that he is at fault here.. I am all for him paying for his mistakes, I can already feel Damini's pain and anger, which she'll go through on hearing about his truth..The intent of this post was only to make my POV clear on the differences between Prithvi and Sameer, and to express my opinion on how I believe Prithvi hasn't gone as far as Sameer with his plans, he hasn't turned as dark, and that there is a whole world of differences between Prithvi and Sameer..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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sarah...i was too occupied in making bugsy's birthday post so haven't seen the eppy yet......will watch it later tonight and reply!!!!🤗


i hope bugsy got a good eppy gift today!😆😆😆
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Im sorry to disagree..But i still support Sameer
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Sarah .. firstly .. honestly .. what would we do without you in this forum? 🤗 This is a magnificent post! 👏 👏
Secondly .. Thank you sooo much! With your post .. you actually put some thoughts into my head! I was.. ughhh .. totally blank after watching the episode. For the first time since I started watching LNMDJ .. I was blank .. didn't know what to think or say! 😕
While I still do agree with Shwetha's post .. I more than agree with yours too! Guess the only difference between both is - while yours is a whole perspective .. an overall look of things .. Shwetha's is part of that whole!
And to be honest ... I really don't give much to all the planning and plotting these brothers are upto. What's most interesting is .. the impact it creates .. and .. what next?!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Who-I-Used-2-Be

Copy-pasting my reply from Shwet's post here..😳 Because I believe Prithvi deserves his own post, a post in his defense today..Prithvi Saxena is not an angel, and he may be confused as anything..But he has a heart of gold, and I felt particularly fond of him while watching today's episode..😆Awesome post in Prithvi's defense. Here is what I feel:


Sameer thinks he is not different from Prithvi?That they're the same? I don't agree at all, here's the reason why..

There is still a lot of difference between Sameer imposing as Jai Chawla and Prithvi lying but still remaining Prithvi Saxena.

How?

Prithvi, by no definition of the word, is black..He is still a shade of grey..Yes, he has turned the life of Gujrals upside down..And it'll take a lot of time to make things right, but the day he realizes his mistakes, there's a chance he can pay for them all..He can make this right..

Everybody has a chance, so does Sameer Saxena..But I would repeat, Sameer crossed the line between black and gray, Sameer went against humanity with what he did, and his redemption will be a lot more difficult than Prithvi..One more thing which proves they're not the same..U kne sara what u say is true. But one thing we shudnt forget that mistakes cannot be measured. Whether they are big or small they still are mistakes and they hurt others. Like mistakes caanot be measured pain also cannot be measured. So be it prithvi or sameer they both will have the same redemption.

Prithvi is having his doubts now, before doing any ultimate damage..Exactly the point! why is he having doubts now? Hasnt he already done the damage by showing damini new dreams. Inder gave her one dhokha and prithvi will another.

Sameer is having guilt pangs after damaging something beyond repair..And he keeps going back to that 'black' mode, like he did in the end of today's episode..I am not supporting him here but that is what he came for. He came for revenge, he came to make damages. This is waht all the brothers had decided..to destroy ila thru her daughters and this is waht sam was doing. So he is feeling guilty after doing the damage. Prithvi and varun havnt even reached that stage. Right now they r not even sure of what they feel for the girls. Sameer is already realising the consequences of his actions but prithvi is far away frm that. He only assumes that Damini will be hurt but doesnt realise to what extent but sameer can actually see hom much he will hurt avni. And in the end today, when he was so concerned about the Gujrals sisters and the child, Prithvi didnt even look grey, he looked almost off white to me..😆 (sowie for the flippancy)


There's a whole lot of difference between Prithvi and Sameer, there's a whole lot of difference between grey and black..Damini will be hurt, she'll be mad, she'll be blinded by rage and lose her senses for some time..But the day she sees reason, the day the initial shock wears off, she'll see the difference..

Sowie for the redundancy, folks..😳Sorry, i dont think i make sense at all. And to remind u i am still very much crazy about Prithvi.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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SARAH.....................EACH AND EVERY WORD OF URS IS GOLD..........

I DONT HATE SAM...................ON THE CONTRARY I LOVE HIM.................AND CRAZY ABT SAVNI ROMANCE

BUT PRI HAS A HEART OF GOLD AND IT CANT B CONTAMINATED EVEN BY THE REVENGE BHOOT

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Its like a debate
And everyone has its own aspect
Reading ur post i agree to the facts

Luved urs as well shwets post
I agree wid u both
Or may be i m diplomatic

But seriously u both justified both reasons in such an efficient manner dat i m speechless


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Sarahkins...
Jhapeez sooo goood to see ya..
will reply later..
watch this space...
EDIT...Chaaa Gayeee Aaaappp....
Sarahkins..that was brilliant..and you have absolutely made your point....
As I wrote in Sweth's post...
the contrast is interesting...
Prithvi has got his fingers in both pies...Why??? He remains a man with a conscience..
The words such as honour,respect,familial duty,ethics,protectiveness for his women and now love are so
deeply ingrained in him that he remains torn between his Maqsad and the rest of him....
His plan has never gained clarity because he has never really been to seek revenge by deceit ,cunning and stooping so low that he cannot redeem himself in his own eyes..
Yes..his plan ..the so called plan as you rightly pointed out has never caused any one any real harm...
Yes marrying Damini may make him seem like a humbug but I think even now he has qualms...as he himself said..Vows are sacred and revenge goes out the window he sees his queen...
But our Sammy boy went in with a clear head hell bent on utter and complete destruction which he has inflicted without qualms...without misgivings..without any remorse ..even now he is still defending himself ..how can he even think what he did was right and justified in the name of revenge...
How....
Some people may think Prithvi is hypocritical in going with the plan..........
as I said in Sweths post..
One has jumped into the fire..
the other is still circling it because he is still unsure if he will remain unscathed...
both will get burnt.....but the difference is..
Prithvi still has a conscience...while Sammy lost it to the devil a long time ago...
Granted both will pay in the end...but one has still room for amends..
the other has left no bridge or boats unturned..
Sarah honestly mywords fall short...our post has soo beutifullysaid everything I wanted to ....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Sure, Krupz..Would love to read your reply..🤗

Hhahahah..Bugsy got Inder's grand return as her gift..😆


@ Amby..It's OK, baby..I never expected you to agree..😊

Originally posted by: Ektaj

Sarah .. firstly .. honestly .. what would we do without you in this forum? 🤗 This is a magnificent post! 👏 👏 Thanks a million, Eksy! 🤗🤗

Secondly .. Thank you sooo much! With your post .. you actually put some thoughts into my head! I was.. ughhh .. totally blank after watching the episode. For the first time since I started watching LNMDJ .. I was blank .. didn't know what to think or say! 😕 Awww..I know, it happened to me once in the past too..Can totally understand..
While I still do agree with Shwetha's post .. I more than agree with yours too! Guess the only difference between both is - while yours is a whole perspective .. an overall look of things .. Shwetha's is part of that whole! 😊
And to be honest ... I really don't give much to all the planning and plotting these brothers are upto. What's most interesting is .. the impact it creates .. and .. what next?! I know Eks..

Thanks a lot for your reply, babe..Appreciate it..

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey Sarah!

Aww I have no response to your post, I agree but disagree, because to be honest, Pri has shown he has a heart of gold and he won't let an harm come to Avni and for that the biggest hug for him! He is the sweetest and he cares but so does Sam, I mean what he did was wrong and I am not defending him, but he does feel guilty yes he has revenge all over his mind but to be honest what is Pri going to do ditch Damz or spend the rest of his life with her? Cause sooner or later he will be in Sam's position! Sorry it just doesn't make sense to me cause does he know what he is doing I mean he is thinking about marrying Damz still but he is still playing with her!
I agree with you and Swetha, but they are like opposite ends of the septrum.
Aww the confusion so instead of that I shall focus of what I loved in the episode!
The three brothers walking down the corridor, 😍😍😍 What a scene!!
Pri's anger 😳😳 OMG so hawt!
Pri's line about the birth of problems 🤣!!!
Varun's lack of expressions, I tried to stay away from Rosh 🤣
Why did Sam have Avni's pregnancy report?!?!!?! 😕 😕 😕
Inder at the end 😆 😆 😆 😆 entry of the year 🤣🤣🤣
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