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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: amail1601

Thanks for commenting Bhakti, and yes you can call me Ammu 😊 ..

I agree that this is a show and they are more into entertaining us and stuff, but there are soooooooo many people who follow shows blindly, and think that the serials are gospels of truth..

yes this fact is correct that more ppl think what is showd to thm is da truth but ppl like us can only tell thm dat its jst 4 entertaing urself and is a gud way of earng money!

I know that just discussing about patriotism and responsibilty won't do any good, but it is the only way to make people realise..

Ya here also u r rite and I think we r dong dat only!😊


The people who say that we won't go for Defence, but will work for our country as doctors, engineers, businesses, etc...what do they do??????? Agreed that some of them do work in society's favour...they are ethical, and responsible,but what about the others??????

To talk bout othrs may I tell u dat thy hav a populatn of around 70% and yes thy r jst spoilng our country and r dong nothng gud.


Those businessmen who 'contribute to the economy', they only think about avoiding taxes, which is cheating the country...their kids go around wearing diamond jewellery, drinking, taking drugs, driving below age, and kill people..

This s jst bcoz thr parents r also lik that only and thy hav already done all these thngs in their life and r still not against it but r supporting their child and for thm its jst their status syombol and nothng serious. Also there r some of thm who think differently but thy r also disappointd by their parents or relatives dat their thinkng will tak thm 2 no good and by this thy jst give up thinkng like us. 😭

Engineers....they take bribes, or even sacrifice public safety so that they can save and use the allotted money for their personal purposes...Maybe you all have heard about the roof collapse in Chandigarh a week or so ago..
The engineer had used the cheapest materials possible, and the admin had never cared for the buildings...The 35 year old building thus collapsed...
The Army was brought in, but being given faulty machines and no space to work, they were blamed for the delay in rescue work..

Now bout this I must say its not only engineers but da whole system is corruptd and its not a new thng I hav seen things like this happeng a lot not only in chandigarh but also in othr parts of India.

I stll rembr whn I was a child thr usd 2 come a program calld flop-show of jaspal bhatti (sm ppl might be knowng this man). In one of his epis he showd da same thng.

The whole story was based upon da reality of not only contractors and engineers but also bout an intelligent man who was seekng a job 4 years as he has done his BE in civil engineering but now convertd to a burglar😭 as he could read da maps and was knowng bout da use of cheapest materials.

For this u can also refer to madhur bhandarkar's traffic signal movie-one of da most superb movie to tll u bout da truth behind each traffic signals in a big city (ya regarding da builder presently playng naina s father in lrl😆)

So u can see here 2 things ,

first one ,da shows like flop-show, aird years back hav a reality in thm ,

That is Happeng today also and if we wont do nythng thn might a day cm whn India will not remain da same as it was 5 decades back!

Second thng is bout those students who r really intelligent nd r not getting jobs jst becoz thy r not one of da sons or daughters of rich persns in da city

Now for these students thr left only 3 options and some of thm left wid 2 only

Da first one s

if da prsn gets a call frm a foreign company he ll certainly go thr(our country's lose😭)

if da prsn becm a burglar lik I hav sed bove thn also(our country's lose😭)

da third and last 4 those who desperately wants a job and join ny defence services!

Now here cms my point atlast

In this case also its only our country's lose😭 (hope I don't hav to explain bout this fact)

To tell u bout da duty of army it is

to save da country by fighting on da borders at da time of war and

Helping da country during ny natural destructn lik floods evn in da case of baccha in da borwell at peace time!😛

For d above case of army blame I hav already told u dat its da fault of da whole systm which was corruptd.😡

For this I totally agree wid is absolutely correct dat some members of the defence ministry(Specially the minister) shld belong to the Army(may b some retired Generals or Col.)😃

And me personally admire only one defence minister of india who belongs to BJP he s George Fernandes😳


Again I am saying this, I do not want to offend anyone, but I am stating facts.

Ya u r rite ammu we r stating da truth and facts in dis discussn

so no offence to nybdy!😊



bhakti

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I remember that show...it's one of my favourites.. 😊

Jaspal Bhatti's from Chandigarh only..he might be a comedian, but he is a social activist too.. 👏 👏 👏

Coming back to the Army...you're absolutely right when you say that people go to the army only in desperation, not by choice.. People just don't want to change!!!!!!!!

We aren't where we were 50 years ago, we are farther behind..
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Posted: 18 years ago
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gud points 👏👏

Originally posted by: SAHELIGSWM

Nice topic 👏 👏 👏 .It is true that these days kids r least interested in joining the army.Bt the question is why?

Bcoz 2day's youths r jst behind earng more money and if thy compare army and multinational companies

ofcourse nybdy who s more interestd in makng money and least interestd in dong businss thy prefer a job in mncs !

bout this case da bad thing is again our country's lose!😭

Do u think that they get enough feedback from their family or background to join the army?The mothers r extremely insecure to let their sons join the army.I have one frnd who wanted to join The Indian Air Force bt just because of his family he could not.

Nice and appropriate incident to share here😊

ya u r rite da family pressure is also behi nd ny child's choice of proffesin he/she s interestd in.

nobdy is lik huda's parents as he lost in da bet wid hs mummiji😆

It cannot b denied that ppl r becoming selfish in our country.After finishing an MBA course,He/she is getting high profile jobs in international companies with high salaries, a big flat,car,all kinds of luxuries that the person may want.Why will he join army after that??I am nt defending them.I know this is selfishness.Bt the problem is that only youths r thinking abt themselves first and then abt the country.They fear death & they also fear hard work which is utterly necessary in army.Bt ppl r becoming lazy day by day.

now once again I m close to my point

hav u evr seen dis ????

now if not thn ask ur parents bout dis dat

5 deacdes back not evn 5 it shud be 3 ,

army of our country nevr gave any advertisements on radios, television or diff means of medias to join defence and serve da country.

But now army is givng. Dont u think Its really a shame 4 us????😡

Is this bad or worst our country's condn dat army hav to tell, request and aware ppl dat thy shud join and serve their nation??😡


Nowadays youths dont want to remain in their country also.Everybody wants to go abroad & settle there.

Bout this a hav already discusd a lot bove and I agree wid u !😃

Ask them how many places they have visited in India.Being an Indian they might dont know all the Indian places bt still going to abroad & to know a foreign country is far more prestigious to them.

Yes da same thng da status symbolthng😭


Very few ppl may know the fact that INDIAN ARMY IS THE SECOND LARGEST ARMY IN THE WORLD .Bt how many civilians do have this knowledge??Very few.

Btw I know this but da worst thng is dat I cm in those very few 😭and

cant evn think I m proud of knowng this fact ! Tell me r u mbrs????

Da answer s no bcoz if we know dat our courtry's army is secnd largest den

we ppl also take it in other way and u shud know whts dat diff way is ,ya ,

we think thr r still lot of ppl who r ready to serve da nation and again da sm thng

They fear death & they also fear hard work which is utterly necessary in army AS ppl r becoming lazy day by day.😭

U r very much rite bout this


Now ,Last thing I want to say is that some responsibilities shld lie with the defence ministry of the country to influence this generation to join army.I personally think that some members of the defence ministry(Specially the minister) shld belong to the Army(may b some retired Generals or Col.) .Bt till date in India this never happened.Defence Ministry is being ruled by ppl who never had any connection with defence.You can check with other developed countries.There u will find at least some ppl frm the army who r in the defence ministry.Bt our country in that case is an exception.

I hav already takn ur side in dis case😛

I think boys and girls should b motivated frm the begining to join the army.May b from the school level.May b that will turn them a bit fearless to join the army.Inspiration,influence,feedback r the things which r necessary to make ppl understand the importance of defence & make them feel the urge to join it.

U r rite but stll da fear of da sm thng --

could thy oppose their parents if thy don't want dat their child shud go in defence services???😭

I think I hav an answer also here UD s case ll giv sm inspiratn to thm😛

😃😆

bhakti

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: amail1601

I remember that show...it's one of my favourites.. 😊
mine also
Jaspal Bhatti's from Chandigarh only..he might be a comedian, but he is a social activist too.. 👏 👏 👏

yes he s a social activist too

Coming back to the Army...you're absolutely right when you say that people go to the army only in desperation, not by choice.. People just don't want to change!!!!!!!!

We aren't where we were 50 years ago, we are farther behind..

i will post my nxt comments in this thread later!

gud to know ppl r takng part in dis discussn!

bhakti

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: amail1601


Well people, seems like the discussion is now really being 'discussed' 😉 ...

All your comments bring up some more issues...


How can we as ordinary citizens help in serving our country??????? And what are your views(forget lrl) about the Army????? What do you know about the Army....what do you think are their duties, their responsibilities, and what do they get from serving their country????????


Continue commenting friends 👏 👏

Thanx ammu 4 starting this topic.

We as ordinary citizens can do lots and lots of things 4 our country.As we all know our country is under developed,I think if each citizen of India will fulfill his duties whether big or small then definitely our country will be developed.For eg.,No spitting on roads or walls,no throwing garbage anywhere except the dust bins,being honest,helping others,fight against corruption anywhere one sees,etc.

We should be proud of our army.They r our protectors of us.I have a deep respect 4 them.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Please don't thank me Subha...thanks for replying. 😊

Thanks for the points you've given...See, it's so easy to serve your country!!!!!!!! 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: cool_subha2006

Thanx ammu 4 starting this topic.

We as ordinary citizens can do lots and lots of things 4 our country.As we all know our country is under developed,I think if each citizen of India will fulfill his duties whether big or small then definitely our country will be developed.For eg.,No spitting on roads or walls,no throwing garbage anywhere except the dust bins,being honest,helping others,fight against corruption anywhere one sees,etc.

We should be proud of our army.They r our protectors of us.I have a deep respect 4 them.

Very well said👏
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Posted: 18 years ago
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ordinary citizens can can contribute a lot for the betterment & development of the country by helping each other&voting for the right candidate for the elections.If they donot find the right candidate they have to become politician & join politics if they r not happy with the political party.they can form a group for it.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: captain_ranveer

ordinary citizens can can contribute a lot for the betterment & development of the country by helping each other&voting for the right candidate for the elections.If they donot find the right candidate they have to become politician & join politics if they r not happy with the political party.they can form a group for it.

That's a very good point captain.Today's youth should join the politics and wipe out all the bad things going on in our country.I am talking abtyouth b'coz our country really needs them.It's our duty to make correct use of the freedom which our ancestors fought and gave but unfortunately as I said earlier ppl are more greedy and self-centered and I too am in the list.😭

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: cool_subha2006

That's a very good point captain.Today's youth should join the politics and wipe out all the bad things going on in our country.I am talking abtyouth b'coz our country really needs them.It's our duty to make correct use of the freedom which our ancestors fought and gave but unfortunately as I said earlier ppl are more greedy and self-centered and I too am in the list.😭

Thank you Captain😊, and Subha, I admire you for being so honest..👏

You know what?????? You've just taken the first step towards the progress of our country, just by admitting that we are selfish..

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