An idiosyncratic analysis of 8th June

Hi there. This is delayed by a day since i had a deadline. Also, on Fridays i tend to laze off becuase i know i have the next three days to do it in. 😊

Again, not a lot of scenes of Gaurav. Are they saving his role for when they release the DVD version of lrl? Ok I'm irritated but i'll get to the point.

It begins with him logically deducing that they (whoever they are) must have received the red box as wedding gift. Charming scene, well done. I know that both lirh and Shweta are drooling over the look he gave her when she said 'khone ko toh kuch bhi nahi hai' for the second time... he gave her a once over with his eyes aur yahan yeh dono gaye kaam se!! Well Gaurav pe fida ho gaye toh there really is nothing to lose.... but your hearts... and possibly your sleep...and certainly your peace of mind.... and very definitely your sanity 😛

Waise i liked the dialogue 'bhagwan se seedha red box maang leta toh wohi cycle pe aa jaata'... But again that 'kya cycle chalate hai aap' with the hand in the air was very AB... not deliberately so... just incidentally... i liked the smiling little looks she kept giving him... at the risk of unleashing the wrath of both RN and Gaurav fans, dare i read the beginning of chemistry?!... when he offers to repair the cycle, again very naturally done.

Phir hamare prince cycle bhi repair kar lete hai... arrey, kaise nahi aayega... hero jo hai... aur rajmahal mein yahi toh karte the roz... (repairing) a cycle a day keeps the doctor away!! (Ok do not mind the abyssmally low humour... i heard good news on a phone call while posting and i'm happy!)

Another question: Prince ji ke white mufflers kaun dhota hai?... grease ke daag kabhi jaate nahi... but remember 'agar kuch achcha karte hue daag lag jaaye, toh daag achche hai!' (Teena you're the only one who would have found this funny... my apologies for existing to the rest of the world!)

Incidentally, a red box is supposed to be indestructible, isnt it? Or is that a black box i am thinking about? Anyway, this is definitely not indestructible from any angle... methinks the box is a little too big...

Incidentally, (no this is not my fav word of the english langauge, but comes close!) i didnt know this show had Aly Khan.... what has happened to the guy?... i remember thinking him quite competent in Hubahu... cocky but then the role asked for a certain kind of cockiness... and then watching him in something else where the arrogance was still present but completely unnecessary and therefore losing interest.... but here?? doing this??

Personal confession: Of all the other cadets, i like Yudi the most.... its not so much his acting as the goofiness of the character that appeals to me... give me that over normalcy any day, though normalcy is perhaps most difficult to show on screen.

In the scene where they see Rajeev outside the door, i again thought he varied the tone well... the 'you found the red box right? where is it?' was friendly... it was his usual tone with Rajeev... then as the box was being carried out the 'is this the red box' was more serious... there was an immediate realisation that there was a major problem... i have to admit that when he asked 'kya yeh red box hai?' this crossed my mind 'isko kaise pata chalega, yeh red thode hi hai'... achcha i'll leave the bad jokes aside and come back to what i was saying...

Also it was interesting to note how he held her hand, to prevent her from touching the box (i almost wrote the coffin, thats how i keep thinking of it)... since even touching it is an 'offence'... he did not have to see where her hand was to hold it... this is an indication of interest, at least in my book... when you pay attention to someone's conversation, know where he/she is in a crowded room, know instinctively where their hands (or whatever!) are -- all of these are indications of interest. I dont know if AN will happen or not but it is definitely a multi layered relationship.... not simply a teacher-student or a friendly one.

What i also found interesting in this scene was that Rajeev was talking to Abhimanyu... while Naina was screaming, he said 'Raj' in a questioning tone and Rajeev then started to explain what had happened... because Abhimanyu is his friend, he is in the army set up and would understand... and Abhimanyu does... he turned around and did that gesture with his hands, as if saying 'why? who the hell are they to post spies on you? what nonsense'... ok, the 'what nonsense' is something i would say, but the gesture expressed frustration but also sympathy for Rajeev and anger with the system... but it became less visible because Naina had started screaming by then and the focus of the scene had shifted to RN...

After that, Gaurav expressed his distress by rubbing his head and then looking away from it... as if 'i cant stop you from feeling the way you are feeling but at the same time i do not want to see you do this to him'... at this point, it is most frustrating to not know what his attitude to the death of Naveen is... he understands Naina's anger, pain and frustration... but does he understand Rajeev as well? Or not? It becomes more difficult to make sense of the scene if one does not know where he is located.

Finally, i liked the way he turned his head and looked at Naina when she said 'Naveen bhaiya aapke dost the na, phir bhi aap ne'... he looked shocked yet resigned... and when she said 'stop interfering in my life', there was a slight hint of rebuke... not overtly so but more a sense of 'i wish you hadnt said that'...

Also when Babuji/Daddyji appeared on the scene, Abhimanyu and Rajeev looked at each other... in the sense of 'what is going to happen now? how is this going to change the situation?'.... they still turn to each other for conversation and answers.... thats my idea of friendship!!

Now I'm off for the weekend... back on Monday. 😊

Originally posted by: anujkpjk

well that was a fantastic analysis. u bet! Thank you , thank you!
u can read abhi's facial expressions very well whynot!!! Sweetie jab episode download karke, apne comp pe baar baar pause karke dekhoge toh expression apne aap samajh aa jaayenge 😆 😆... actually usually write the update post show but since i had the time today i saw the episode again while writing the analysis, which is why it is more detailed today
anyways i kind of like the way he restrains naina. raj usually ends up scolding her. but all abhi does is stop her by catching her arm and saying no, don't and naina gets it immediately. I agree

as i said abhi is a better judge of human emotions - in a very few days he has managed to understand naina quite well. he has seen her sad, happy, angry and in one episode he actually made her reveal what she actually was - a girl who is young, blossoming into a woman but still retains her childish charm. the way she talked abt the tennis referees made him laugh at her as he found the ever so tough naina was actually a child at heart. this is very well explained 👏👏

raj realised the same too during the candlelight interview but that was after a long time.
see the main difference betn raj and abhi - raj loves naina but maintains a safe distance even when she was friendly to him in the first season. abhi on the other hand made friends with her quickly and yesterday i saw naina chiding abhi for his so called philosophies - that was the original naina - and i can surely tell that this is exactly the way she was with naveen. Have not seen the parts you are talking about but yes i thought it was sweet the way she chided him...

and though i don't see a bro-sis relnship betn abhi-naina, abhi can handle naina in way just like naveen did. naina looks at raj and abhi in two different ways. she looks at raj for inspiration(in season1) and she looks at abhi for consolation. i guess naveen was a combination of both. Again, i dont know about season 1 but i do see that Abhi can handle Naina well

and the final scene where naina confronts raj - though i found it in bad taste - abhi's expressions were amazing. lot of things were going on in his mind. the frustration of losing the red box, raj's helplessness, naina's anger - it was as if all of u r rite in a way. but he best preferred to remain a silent observer to the whole scene. raj knew abhi understands him that's why he spoke to him thru his eyes and abhi got the message. I agree that his expressions were amazing... yes i too think he meant 'all of you are right in a way'... yes and he and Rajeev do converse without words.

abhi is a clever guy - he grasped the situation of the red box quickly. nothing needs to be explained to him. and that's what i like abt him. Yes he is quite quick at understanding things.

Thanks for your comments... its great to have people read the reallllllllly long posts i write!!

Originally posted by: whynot

Hi there. This is delayed by a day since i had a deadline. Also, on Fridays i tend to laze off becuase i know i have the next three days to do it in. 😊

Hey thanks Buddy for ur analysis.

Again, not a lot of scenes of Gaurav. Are they saving his role for when they release the DVD version of lrl? Ok I'm irritated but i'll get to the point.

😆now thats funny. Dont worry Gaurav's role will develop in the story slowly.

It begins with him logically deducing that they (whoever they are) must have received the red box as wedding gift. Charming scene, well done. I know that both lirh and Shweta are drooling over the look he gave her when she said 'khone ko toh kuch bhi nahi hai' for the second time... he gave her a once over with his eyes aur yahan yeh dono gaye kaam se!! Well Gaurav pe fida ho gaye toh there really is nothing to lose.... but your hearts... and possibly your sleep...and certainly your peace of mind.... and very definitely your sanity 😛

Oh you bet that scene was very good.👏 Drool worthy😳😍.The way Gaurav looked at Naina was somewhat like he was fascinated by her frankness. Naina said that line very well-'khone ko.. a little teasing too😛. Yeah already lost peace of mind/sleep .....dear😉

Waise i liked the dialogue 'bhagwan se seedha red box maang leta toh wohi cycle pe aa jaata'... But again that 'kya cycle chalate hai aap' with the hand in the air was very AB... not deliberately so... just incidentally... i liked the smiling little looks she kept giving him... at the risk of unleashing the wrath of both RN and Gaurav fans, dare i read the beginning of chemistry?!... when he offers to repair the cycle, again very naturally done.

I too liked the line'Bhagwan se seedha" it was light and hopeful. AB style oh now you make me go into AB mode when you had said to avoid AB references in Abhi style😆. But definitely it reminds of AB style. Naina smiling looks good actually. ( I know who doesnt😃)

Phir hamare prince cycle bhi repair kar lete hai... arrey, kaise nahi aayega... hero jo hai... aur rajmahal mein yahi toh karte the roz... (repairing) a cycle a day keeps the doctor away!! (Ok do not mind the abyssmally low humour... i heard good news on a phone call while posting and i'm happy!)

Aisa Prince pehli baar dekha jo cycle repair karta hai, Maloom kya ( in AB baritone)😆

Another question: Prince ji ke white mufflers kaun dhota hai?... grease ke daag kabhi jaate nahi... but remember 'agar kuch achcha karte hue daag lag jaaye, toh daag achche hai!' (Teena you're the only one who would have found this funny... my apologies for existing to the rest of the world!)

Apologies accepted😆

Incidentally, a red box is supposed to be indestructible, isnt it? Or is that a black box i am thinking about? Anyway, this is definitely not indestructible from any angle... methinks the box is a little too big...

Yes seemed more like the box Army Jawans use as their luggage.Dont know whether its made of Wood or Iron/steel?

Incidentally, (no this is not my fav word of the english langauge, but comes close!) i didnt know this show had Aly Khan.... what has happened to the guy?... i remember thinking him quite competent in Hubahu... cocky but then the role asked for a certain kind of cockiness... and then watching him in something else where the arrogance was still present but completely unnecessary and therefore losing interest.... but here?? doing this??

You mean Aly Khan in place of Gaurav? No he gives out very menancing looks but is a good actor. The humour wld have lost out.

Personal confession: Of all the other cadets, i like Yudi the most.... its not so much his acting as the goofiness of the character that appeals to me... give me that over normalcy any day, though normalcy is perhaps most difficult to show on screen.

I like Naina as she is still focussed and determined towards her goal.

In the scene where they see Rajeev outside the door, i again thought he varied the tone well... the 'you found the red box right? where is it?' was friendly... it was his usual tone with Rajeev... then as the box was being carried out the 'is this the red box' was more serious... there was an immediate realisation that there was a major problem... i have to admit that when he asked 'kya yeh red box hai?' this crossed my mind 'isko kaise pata chalega, yeh red thode hi hai'... achcha i'll leave the bad jokes aside and come back to what i was saying...

The way he said was inquisitive and certain urgency or eagerness. Then when he observed what was happening realisation dawned that "so near yet so far". Here I think Rajveer's expressions were of despair more for Naina then for loosing the red box.

Also it was interesting to note how he held her hand, to prevent her from touching the box (i almost wrote the coffin, thats how i keep thinking of it)... since even touching it is an 'offence'... he did not have to see where her hand was to hold it... this is an indication of interest, at least in my book... when you pay attention to someone's conversation, know where he/she is in a crowded room, know instinctively where their hands (or whatever!) are -- all of these are indications of interest. I dont know if AN will happen or not but it is definitely a multi layered relationship.... not simply a teacher-student or a friendly one.

The swiftness with which Abhi held Naina hand was timed brilliantly👍🏼. Both of them did a good job.

What i also found interesting in this scene was that Rajeev was talking to Abhimanyu... while Naina was screaming, he said 'Raj' in a questioning tone and Rajeev then started to explain what had happened... because Abhimanyu is his friend, he is in the army set up and would understand... and Abhimanyu does... he turned around and did that gesture with his hands, as if saying 'why? who the hell are they to post spies on you? what nonsense'... ok, the 'what nonsense' is something i would say, but the gesture expressed frustration but also sympathy for Rajeev and anger with the system... but it became less visible because Naina had started screaming by then and the focus of the scene had shifted to RN...

After that, Gaurav expressed his distress by rubbing his head and then looking away from it... as if 'i cant stop you from feeling the way you are feeling but at the same time i do not want to see you do this to him'... at this point, it is most frustrating to not know what his attitude to the death of Naveen is... he understands Naina's anger, pain and frustration... but does he understand Rajeev as well? Or not? It becomes more difficult to make sense of the scene if one does not know where he is located.

I wld have prefered to watch Abhi-Rajveer talk. They do have great chemisty. Perhaps the best amongst the actors in LRL. The helplessness of the situtaon was evident from both the Capt's faces. The Naina outburst cld have followed it.

Finally, i liked the way he turned his head and looked at Naina when she said 'Naveen bhaiya aapke dost the na, phir bhi aap ne'... he looked shocked yet resigned... and when she said 'stop interfering in my life', there was a slight hint of rebuke... not overtly so but more a sense of 'i wish you hadnt said that'...

Naina was completely dejected at losign the box and ventliated her emotions. THey were not directed towards Rajveer but cld have been anyone responsible for the loss cld be Alekh/Abhi/Huda anyone. I wld have prefered her breaking down though and then Abhi consoling her.

Also when Babuji/Daddyji appeared on the scene, Abhimanyu and Rajeev looked at each other... in the sense of 'what is going to happen now? how is this going to change the situation?'.... they still turn to each other for conversation and answers.... thats my idea of friendship!!

Interesting end of episode. lets see how it moves ahead😊

Now I'm off for the weekend... back on Monday. 😊

Yeah have a chilled weekend-bahut garmi hai yaha At 1am its 36 deg cel🤢 outside.

Originally posted by: anujkpjk

well that was a fantastic analysis. u bet!

Yes I agree Shevtal does an excellent job.

u can read abhi's facial expressions very well whynot!!!

Facial expressions-and more😉😆

anyways i kind of like the way he restrains naina. raj usually ends up scolding her. but all abhi does is stop her by catching her arm and saying no, don't and naina gets it immediately. as i said abhi is a better judge of human emotions - in a very few days he has managed to understand naina quite well. he has seen her sad, happy, angry and in one episode he actually made her reveal what she actually was - a girl who is young, blossoming into a woman but still retains her childish charm. the way she talked abt the tennis referees made him laugh at her as he found the ever so tough naina was actually a child at heart. raj realised the same too during the candlelight interview but that was after a long time.

You have said it very well.👏

see the main difference betn raj and abhi - raj loves naina but maintains a safe distance even when she was friendly to him in the first season.

I think it was also becoz everyone was suspicious of their proximity and hence Raj distanced himself. And they did land in trouble so better to be safe than sorry. Rajveer admitted loving Naina hence he fears losing her or hurting her. SHe has that special place in his heart.

abhi on the other hand made friends with her quickly and yesterday i saw naina chiding abhi for his so called philosophies - that was the original naina - and i can surely tell that this is exactly the way she was with naveen. and though i don't see a bro-sis relnship betn abhi-naina, abhi can handle naina in way just like naveen did.

Abhi entered her life when Naina had lost support and trust. He came as a fresh breeze of air. She finds him charming and relaxed. This is what attracts you when you are most stressed something which Naina is.

naina looks at raj and abhi in two different ways.
she looks at raj for inspiration(in season1)
and she looks at abhi for consolation.

Agreed completely

i guess naveen was a combination of both.

Somehow I find this funny 😆

and the final scene where naina confronts raj - though i found it in bad taste - abhi's expressions were amazing. lot of things were going on in his mind. the frustration of losing the red box, raj's helplessness, naina's anger - it was as if all of u r rite in a way. but he best preferred to remain a silent observer to the whole scene. raj knew abhi understands him that's why he spoke to him thru his eyes and abhi got the message.

I wld not look at it form taste point of view. It was Naina's frustration and dejection of losing something so precious to her. Naian venmtilated her feeligns and now she will be at ease to understand and grasp the situation better. Finally dont look at it from a point of view she screamed at your fav star but look at this way she screamed at someone (cld be anyone again) who let the box go, in her opinion. She is not aware of what transpired or the good intentions of her mentor.

abhi is a clever guy - he grasped the situation of the red box quickly. nothing needs to be explained to him.
and that's what i like abt him.

Clever! I dont know as yet, lets see

Originally posted by: anujkpjk

er thanks spian - but u got it wrong. i like naina more than raj.
it was just that last scene that i did not like.
i knew she would shout at raj but never expected her to say that he is selfish. after all she is my idol and i love defending her and hate her for what she has become.
i dunno what abhi is upto whether he wants the differences bet raj naina to build up - i still dunno why he has not spoken to raj abt naveen's death. it seems to me that abhi has taken a liking to naina and something makes me feel that this time abhi does not want to lose like the last time he lost raj to nandini.

Hi anujkpjk , I got it that you like Naina more. I wasnt defending anyone.Just attempting to understand the sitn vs person dilemma. I too like Naina among the cadets- a much better female charac portrayal in serials👏 I dont want her to be apologetic abt her aim and determination. In Hindi movies such roles go to the male heroes.

Agree it seems Abhi liked Nandini and she liked Rajveer. Lets see but I am not interested in love triangles and .......a thrilling story is what i look fwd to.