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Posted: 14 years ago

#151

Originally posted by: Moontide

Mahabharat is an epic..its not part of mythology though the story line incorporates a lot of it...
The Bhagwat Gita is a part of it..but its more a philosophy...not a religious text per se.

And if you ever get to read a good translation its one of the most gripping of tales and has a timeless relevance...you can take any aspect or life and you will find something related to it in the Mahabharata that can answer your questions on the issue...Its strange but Mahabharat is really a reflection of society...

Thank you for the correction. 😊 Well, I probably wouldn't be able to tell a good vs. bad translation. So if you happen to know of a website/place that has it, I would love to check up on it.

Re: Bhagwat Gita...When you say philosophy...do you mean the sayings in it are written more importantly for a person to follow them as a way of life?

@ Bold: 👍🏼

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prncz

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Posted: 14 years ago

#152

Originally posted by: -sourire-

Thank you for the correction. 😊 Well, I probably wouldn't be able to tell a good vs. bad translation. So if you happen to know of a website/place that has it, I would love to check up on it.

Re: Bhagwat Gita...When you say philosophy...do you mean the sayings in it are written more importantly for a person to follow them as a way of life?

@ Bold: 👍🏼

Bhagwad Gita was basicaly the portion of the mahabharat whn Krishna preaches Arjun at the beginning of the war

the preaching in the Gita ,, are eye opening abt the way we perceive life ,, it talks abt ,, duty , karma , death, life , rebirth , path of knwledge ... it has 18 chapters

it all starts whn Arjun asks krishna to take his chariot to the centre of the 2 armies and whn he see his blood relations at the other end looses his morale and decides not to fight

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-sourire-

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Posted: 14 years ago

#153

@ Raj, Moon...to get this straight in my head 😆...Mahabharat is an epic...Bhagwat Gita is the philosophy part and the mythology part is the stories from when that happened, right? 😊

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prncz

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Posted: 14 years ago

#154

Originally posted by: -sourire-
@ Raj, Moon...to get this straight in my head 😆...Mahabharat is an epic...Bhagwat Gita is the philosophy part and the mythology part is the stories from when that happened, right? 😊

you can say that 👍🏼.Mahabharata is an epic and Bhagavad Gita is the philospphy part,, the bhagwad gita alone was an upanishad in itself ,, one of the most important texts in the history of written literature and philosophy ,,,, it can be read alacarte too

yup reg mytho ... u can say that ...

Moony do u knw the best translated version of Mahabharata and Bhagwad Gita ?, i wil pm u Souriee,,whn i get the info ...😉

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Moontide

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Posted: 14 years ago

#155

Originally posted by: -sourire-
@ Raj, Moon...to get this straight in my head 😆...Mahabharat is an epic...Bhagwat Gita is the philosophy part and the mythology part is the stories from when that happened, right? 😊

Mahabharata is a tale encompassing several generations...the climax so to say is the battle of Kurukshetra... where as Raj explained seeing his own kith and keen Arjuna lets say got cold feet and refused to fight... That was the time Krishna..(who is an avtaar of Vishnu..one of the divine trinity of Hinduism) gives him a pep talk and helps Arjuna Gather himself...

The pep talk from Krishna is the Bhagwat Gita...😃

So the whole of Gita is a philosophy and not a religious text..

I know many say its the holy book of the Hindus...

give you few eg of the kind of verse that Gita has

'karmanye vadhika raste, Ma phaleshu kadachana;

ma karma phala he tur bhuh, ma te sangvasta karmani'

translated....'Seek to perform your duty, but lay not claim on its fruits. Be you not the producer of the fruits of karma , neither shall you lean towards inaction'...

another verse goes...

Na, jayate, mriatya ba kadachita / Na bthua, vabhita ba na vuha. Aja nityan sashwyaton purana Na hannate hannaman sarire.

translated

this soul never can be borne, never dies. It was not there, is not there & will not be there. This is old, the oldest, and never dies with the death of mortal man

another says..

'jaatasya hi dhruvo mrityuh dhruvam janma mritasya cha

tasmaadaparihaarye arthe na tvam shochitumarhasi'

translated

Death is certain of that which is born. Birth is certain of that which is dead. Therefore, you should not lament over the inevitable.

Hope that didn't sound preachy 😃

Had been looking them up ever since there was word of Ravindra ji's end

Wanted to use then in case he died..now this he is only 'Missing' 😉 didn't have to fall back on the Gita...😃

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Posted: 14 years ago

#156

Originally posted by: prncz

Ivy ,,thik bola we will follow our ghadha , sheru, dev-manus , kahin bhi , that place will becme heaven , unke saath se 😍😍

MR/Dutta Diwanees
Mishal's birthday is in 2 weeks from now...What are we doing this year..any dhamakedar ideas?

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Posted: 14 years ago

#157

Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

But I feel the only place where Dutta made a MISTAKE was in not devoting much time/attention to his sisters, but otherwise I feel as a brother whatever he has done for them is at par with what a father would do for his daughters. Dutta has always fulfilled his responsibilities towards his sisters, like a father (providing for them financially, taking care of them and giving them security, getting them married off, etc.).

But what has Roops done for Dutta till now? So I feel by 2-way relationship, Roops should have fulfilled some responsibility of being a sister. I mean, I know she is small and all that, but she is only 3 years younger to Dutta, so when Dutta went through all this, definitely she must have been an adult. And not only that, if Roops was young and needed attention, even Dutta wasnt too old and mature then, so he wasnt able to handle everything together (taking care of 4 women and himself, handling his emotions when Seema cheated him, etc.), still I would say he did a good job of it at such a young age 👏!

And as far as attention goes, it wasnt that they were all alone, the entire family was together, so I dont think Dutta not giving enough time to his sisters is a valid reason for what they did to him. What they did was not even a mistake, it was a sin! Many a times, in today's world too, there are many fathers who are not able to spend much time with their kids (I'm sure we all would have gone through such phases with our dads at some point), but after a certain age (like teenagehood), you can do without it and understand that your dad still loves you. So when all this happened to Dutta, Roops was above 18, so I still dont think Dutta not giving attention to Roops was that big a mistake from his side.

Aparna I agree with you completely...I also agree that what Rups/Leela/Kala did to Dutta was not a mistake...it was a sin. But I also feel wrt Rups and Leela perhaps Dutta gets 1% blame in not devoting enough time to them. Added to that even AS was busy with Dutta and her pooja paath. That gave Kala the opty to do her work on them. Even Dutta had admitted to this in an earlier episode of this thread.
Apart from the not devoting time factor lets not forget the Kala factor. Dutta was like a father to his sisters and like every father even he did not have time as some point in his life. But then not every family as a member like Kala. Elder sisters can be quiet an influence on their younger ones. This is what happenned with Leela and Rups esp Rups.

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TheRager

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Posted: 14 years ago

#158

Originally posted by: Yuvika_15
ok guys going of the discussion topic nw bt did ne1 else feel tht NS didnt gt the closure tht was expected/needed?? i think it was very impt tht NS died having heard the truth from rupali... i felt tht was impt for a closure bt we didnt gt tht...regretting wt he did 2 DP n his kids etc may nt hav happened bt i feel he shud hav heard the truth from rupali tht DP had actually been the true brother...yes NS heard al tht from Balu bt he didnt believe it...m sure if rupali had tld him this, NS wud hav believed it... wt do u guys think?

edit: pls evry1...post comments in MR's profile so his rank goes up...

Not only that...even we didnt find out why NS backed off from ruining Dutta's life after his first marriage till the time he disappeared after the accident. I wonder if he only sent Anna...

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Posted: 14 years ago

#159

Originally posted by: Moontide
Another train of thought...

Would any of you say that Leela and Roops were actually more afraid of Kala and the consequences of defying her wishes drove them to lull their own consciences to go completely blank and play along with her?

Just a thought.

But I cannot forget how Roops went into elaborate dramatics to phasao Baji acting all repentant when actually she was laying a trap as per Kala's wishes...

Jab Kala confessed that she had indeed tried to kill Dutta and put them under house arrest only then did the two change...may be they finally realised Kala had only her own ambitions at heart or may be finally they were rid of the fear of Kala ?

I do think they were afraid of Kala in the sense that they wouldnt want someone like her as their enemy. She could easily create a situation and turn Dutta against them.
But the change in them started with Dutta's disappearance with the thought that he might be no more. And yes Kala did make it clear she will not share power or wealth with anyone.