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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: YPNHKFAN

@dancingdoll sorry i dnt know ur nme.

OMG hw could u write dat much i got heart attack after seeing ur written uno. i got scared i cnt read dat much otherwayz i will go 2 slep😆😆

call me DD....and u r right...I ddint realize i wrote that much....only when I submitted my post, did I realize that I showed my garrulous self yet again!! 😆😆😆.....
sorry, I have been thinking about Naku's confrontation since yesterday and I culd relate to the contradictory behaviour that when Anu posted this topic, I had to write about how Naku was behaving logically yet illlogically.........😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dancingdoll

Anu, You have pointed out that one aspect in Fridays episode that stood out for me - When Naku was clear that the "right" thing to do is to confess to Dutta then why do we have Bappa's interference? And if we do, then why blame him, if he has spoken his decision? I too was muffed momentarily but then I got to thinking and I realized I have been no less than Naku in many situations and hence, I totally understood her behaviour....This all stems to a weakness or a belief inside us....Let me explain .....

I firmly believe that we have a value system that has developed over a period of time by our experiences, our parents/professor's teachings or other media/friends input. This value system becomes our reference to all our decisions and eventually actions. Naku's value system tells her that hiding a truth/secret or any aspect about "her" from Dutta is wrong! We also dont have two ways about why it is wrong - they both are one now, have a strong bond between each other and are in a relationship, where secrets are not pardonable and transparency is MUST! Naku knows this and yet, she has kept quiet! We all agree that the day she came out of Anna's den and didnt speak the truth, she entered the betrayal zone, the beauty is that even Naku knows that. She knows she is betraying the man, she loves, who has opened her heart and mind in front of her and who ensured that she knew the darkest of the secrets about him! So, she is feeling guilty and hence, many a times, she has been aggitated.This was the reason, she couldnt accept his proposal and this was the reason shetried going and telling him the truth! Now, Coming to the time when she came out of Anna's den, yes there was ample opportunity to reveal her self to Dutta, but she was clueless about his love then, or his intentions to carry forward this relationship. Did he not give any hints? Yes he did, which were anything but subtle, but if you wear Naku's shoes, the journey that these two have gone thru', friendship, then hatred, then resentment and finally a little flicker of trust showing on the surface after the temple/jungle incident, makes her NOT think that Dutta can ever fall in love with HER!...Yes, he did come to rescue her, but for her that was a Husband and DSP performing his respective duties because, "Saheb bahut achche hain"....So, Anything he did for her, she always attributed to Dutta, the man that he was, not his love! Hence, all the not-so-subtle hints by Dutta only made her ground more firm that "Saab bahut achche hain" and HER love grew stronger!! Dutta's love never came in HERlimited picture!!....But then things changed, one fine day he prposed the clueless Naku, and gave her the shock!!....Naku and Love could exist in same sentence for Dutta, this shocked her! Her world, her dreams and never spoken desires were in front of her but then her value system surfaced, Naku couldnt go and envelop her happiness because she had not yet spoken the truth!!...Now, the question was, should she? A woman who has lived this lies since her childhood (???) which has become part of her and her existence, it wasnt easy to one fine day, wash off the soot and start living a "different" life! We do agree that her life would be different - right? Not only would she see a different Naku in the mirror, but people's reactions, good or bad.would suddenly change towards her!!...It wasnt easy.....Plus the most important factor cropped in, "If I reveal the truth, I dont care about others, but what impact would it have on Dutta, who hates beauty"....When she goes to talk-it-out with him after the proposal, he yet again talks about "her not being beautiful, and hence she being idle for him"....That would again discourage any gal to reveal her truth!!.....The dilemma only increased and she runs away!....On one end is her value system that shouts, speak the truth bcoz you are gng deeper and deeper in the betrayal zone, with every passing second.....and on the other, her heart/love tells her, please defer the pain that you would induce in Dutta, a man whom you have only seen in pain from Day 1. He has found his real happiness and genuine smile back after years, how can you have a heart to snatch it back!!!.....She weighs the two aspects and her dilemma only grows!!!.....Thats when a third brain like CP's helped her realize that she should listen to her value system and speak the truth because its not just about her perspective but also about Dutta's love....Now, she need to learn to count Dutta's love in the mix and trust that genuine love too....Trust that love for the faith and understanding that has also grown with her!!....She determines that the right way in love is to be honest and no matter what the result is, she has to see the bigger picture and reveal her truth....Momentary happiness and smile on dutta's face cannot decide his whole future....He has to face it, she has to face it and then support him or accept his decision!!....She decides to fight the guilt but yet again fate/Baaji interludes...He stops her because Dutta has just been brutually dented by Kala's episode....She fight Baaji on his reasoning but she too realizes that Dutta has just been hurt, his wounds are still raw, it wouldnt be a right time to reveal a second truth that would further inflict his wound deeper and might turn into permanent scar!!....The dilemma rose again producing guilt with it, but the heart won - Dont have a heart to injure Dutta again!...So, what was the decision - Let him heal, get over Kala's episode and then the second truth can be revealed!!...Now, Do I agree with Baaji and Naku - Not really because, I guess I give him more creditthan they do. I dont say he would not be shocked and pained but he is better equipped with fighting mechanism then they think he is. I have faith in Dutta that the wound will not become a scar and he would heal his wound beyond recognition with right support and his understanding of love!....And I know that firmly in my mind, but Baaji and Naku know that subconsciously and hence their guilt keeps surging time and again!....If they were so sure of their decision, then why would theu feel guilty!!...So, they also know Dutta in and out but given their own weakness, they have put it on a back burner!!


This brings us to her confrontation with Bappa yesterday!!....So, Now, Naku is fighting with her dilemma, she is fighting between right and her heart!!... And in face of dilemma, she turns to one person who has always helped her, on whom her trust was unshakeable!!....Bappa!!....She knows what's right but her heart stops her....and hence, she turns to Bappa...Give me one direction and then I wouldnt listen to the other side of dilemma....She knows that God has to be on the side of right and truth....She knows ideally what side whould her weighing machine incline - towards the side of being right - telling Dutta the truth, because in the bigger picture of spending her life with him, the truth wuld go a long way....the momentary happiness wouldnt...but she desnt have the heart to make the decision....This has happened with me many times, I know whats right in a situation, I know in the core of my heart, that what is the ideal thing to do, but I am not able to take that one step becasue of many heavy constraints....and that is when I turn to my confidante!...Its just a way of securing my beliefs and thoughts! But mind you....I already know whats right..I already have an inclination towards one side of the weighing machine...but I want a confirmation....I want to hear the same thoughts and words that my subconscious mind has decided but from a different mouth!....Exactly what Naku wanted! She knew what she wanted to do, she knew what was right, she knew that Bappa would just put a stamp on her subconscious decision and hence she turns to Bappa NOT TO MAKE A DECISION but to STAMP HER already made decision in her subconscious, that would help her get rid of the guilt - Reveal self to Dutta!!......She wanted him to speak the same tune that she was singing....This way she would have Bappa's blessings too, she would have calmed the storm surging in her and gone forward with determination to accept any consequences, because she was right and Bappa had just confirmed it....But Alas! Bappa gives a diff indication (ofcourse Baaji interfered)....Now, that shocked Naku, bcoz that was not as per her expectations....Her whole world, expectations and decisions trumbles down!!....Asking Bappa was a mere formality to get his approval too and give her desired confidence, it was not an attempt to make her decideon next course of action, bcoz that she had already decided.....but With Bappa's "decision", she was taken by surprise....Suddenly, she had to undo all the work she had done in her mind to prepare herself for this much awaited revelation....Bappa was telling her not to reveal!.....So, now what's Naku's state of mind, she still knows that the right is to reveal but somehow, for reason unknown to her, Bappa says No!!....She is back to where she started - Dilemma!!.....Her value system doesnt approve of this decision and hence, she had to fight with god....When we perform our duties as per our value system and the results do not match our efforts, it does make us aggitated....and if we have faith in god that no matter what happens, it is good for me, the unexpected result takes us by jolt but the residingfaith gets us around eventually and we get over it...Right now, Naku's faith has been shaken because her decision and Bappa's decision didnt match....Bappa's decision threw her back to the betrayal zone, which is making her clausterphobic, which is not making her give her 100% to her love....How can someone live with the nagging lies always on top of their shoulder!!....So, she is angry with Bappa, but her unshakeablefaith still exists....that he can never be wrong....We cannot see the future but god can, and this belief in him, always makes us bend to his wishes whetehr we like it or not....so, Naku is angry, that the decison is wrong but she still has to agree because of her embedded belief in Bappa!....If he is God, he could have let the truth and love prevaile, but he didnt andthat makes her more angry!!....Revealing truth is right, then why dont u make the future right? how would I live like this....you are kartaa dharta, then make things right, remove my obstracles because u r vidhi vinaayak....but u didnt do tht for me....so, I am angry with my friend who didnt listen to me,....But NAKU WOULD come around....she knows that she cannot see what he can!!....Its a momentary anger.....


But seriously, we know Baaji corrputed the decision and hence, I am confident Bappa will find a new way of communicating with Naku!!




You HAVE to give that deep-desire of yours one chance to ignite itself, girl! 😊

But seriously, we know Baaji corrputed the decision and hence, I am confident Bappa will find a new way of communicating with Naku!!
😊 I cannot agree with you more nor do i have better words to say this! 😊 Of course, he will communicate with her soon and she will know it was HIM!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Anu .. awesome post!!! Infact i had also decided yesterday not to watch the epi but ended up watching it just for our dear gadha. Infact that was the only scene I appreciated yesterday.

As far as Nakku is concerned, I could not believe that she was blaming god for showing her the wrong path. No! God did not show her any wrong path it was she who interpreted it wrong. But this scene made me remind of MR's words in his Telly Tadka interview that when there is problem God does not comes himself but sends some one to help you out. And this made me forget the scene and nakku's dialogue. I was wondering if really god used baaji as a medium. Because I was sure no way the flower would have fallen with out breeze. And there was no other way the air could have reached the temple. This might sound quite foolish ... may be I am trying to pacify myself that whatever is been shown is meant to take us to a blissful start of TaSha's life. But one thing is true I did not like nakku blaming god for her decision.

Sorry for my rant .. but I really wanted to get this lout of my system because this is making me feel disconnected from LTL and I don't want to be disconnecetd 😭.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: YPNHKFAN

according 2 da precap i think dutta might be dere in one corner listening 2 her convertation wiv bappa and he might ask her wah is she hiding behind her dark face. i wan da revelation 2 happen dis way bcz she said if dutta cums 2 know her truth he will never cum front bappa again and he will never trust anyone in his life. so dutta will hear dis and he might understand her as else.

Dream on yaar 😆....Dutta never lands at a place on time............he iam sure will know last .........sab se late samaj ayega usse ki sach kya hai 😆..........
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Awesome DD !!! Couldn't have said better myself..U have pointed out EVerything i wanted to say abt Nakusha's Dilemma and her controversial conversation with her Bappa..

btw... u seem to be affected by Adi's syndrome.. Itna lamba post yaar??? 😲

AS for baji..and why he came in between nakusha and her bappa..

From another post:

"Actually .. i think, Baji want this color revelation thing to be delayed he knows that naku wont listen specially when babi told him that she has left it over her bappa .. and the whole flower dropping thingy .. baaji knows abt nakusha determination.. so he intentionally wanted to put a hold on it ... offcourse he didn't meant her to hide this secret for the rest of her life.. he is waiting for the right opportunity (i.e only possible when after colors give them a nod k CVs ur good to go ! ) when he finds one .. he will tell nakusha abt The hera pheri he did .... 😃 just a mere POV only
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ADIorb



You HAVE to give that deep-desire of yours one chance to ignite itself, girl! 😊

But seriously, we know Baaji corrputed the decision and hence, I am confident Bappa will find a new way of communicating with Naku!!
😊 I cannot agree with you more nor do i have better words to say this! 😊 Of course, he will communicate with her soon and she will know it was HIM!

😳😳😳......Aap Aaye aur sirf do line likh ke gaayab?? 😆😆
BTW, I really wanna see the Naku and Baaji's confrontation when she realizes that Baaji interfered!!.....Would love to see Naku holding her punch, right near Baaji's face, (exactly Like Baaji did to her in the shed! 😆😆😆)......😆😆😆
*ducks chappals from Baaji's fans*......I was just kidding...I know she wuldnt do tht!!!😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mozart66

Anu dear, perfect points. No mistakes in understanding Naku. I too hate her for her cowardly act and her blaming game for her low self-esteem and lack of confidence. yes, she should just do her job of telling dutta and let him decide what to do with it. wasn't that what Chulbul pandey told her? just do your work and leave the outcome to god. that is the job of every human being and not being the god himself that you question god regarding your own decisions!!

naku is at fault. definitely. dutta has every right to be upset or angry after hearing the truth. that is normal. isn't naku scared of how dutta might receive tis piece of news and that's why she is being a coward and finding all sorts of excuses including getting the "kaul" from god? if she is so determined to tell dutta as she told baji then nothing should have stopped her from doing that and not be a coward. yes, she could have asked for the blessings and hoped for dutta to receive the news with mild to moderate display of emotions. after all didn't she change dutta? so why is she worried about how he will receive the news? dutta has changed and for better. he is more understanding then why worry? it is secretly naku's fear of rejection that is coming in the way nothing else. in the rain when she told baji the truth, she was so possessed that she was ready to tell the truth immediately then what happened? why is babi being selfish when she had promised naku that when naku finds true love, she herself will remove the soot. why is babi going back on her words? what is there to worry about now? hasn't dutta proved that he loves naku and that he will go to any lengths to protect her at any cost? then why is babi doing this? she did say though when she wasn't feeling well after her return from the mandir that naku should wait till ganpati visarjan. but if naku is ready why did babi stop her? i find this whole thing a royal mess and a big confusion. please CVs be truthful and keep the characters in order. it is a genuine request from the lovers of LTL. are u listening CVs? stop this stupidity at once.

U have raised some valid points in here .....
1) Black bolded part : I hate to say but I have to agree to it. She is I think scared that she might loose him completely now if the truth comes out. If she was just scared for Dutta, that he might be broken, then she wouldve told him the truth already, as she very well is aware how Dutta treats taitors . She loves him but I think she failed to understand him at some level. I do not like saying that but seems like thats the truth. Or so it seems as of now for me..........as I for one need something visible to make some impression and all her logics are going over the top of my head as of today ..........No wonder I love Dutta more for his frank and daring nature 😛😆.
2)Red bolded Part : Again a very valid issue. Babi once said she will wipe off the soot when the time comes.......when the knight of her dear daughter arrives on a horse to claim the black beauty.............. but little did she know what she was saying I guess. Applying soot was so easy, wiping it isnt . She didnt know that when she was applying that stupid soot, nor did she realise that when she said she will wipe it off herself one day. Or may be she never thought that a day will come when a man will want to spend his life with such an ugly woman?. That makes me wonder Babi's "motherly nature" itself. So was that in her subconcious mind that no one would want to marry Nakku?. If she really thought that there will be a man for her Dark Nakku too, then did she think that man will be someone who can love more than what Dutta does?. What is the cause of her backing off right now? Why does she not want to fulfil her promise?. I kind of started hating Babi dil hi dil mein I guess .
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: komal_w25

Nicely interpreted Anu..!!😊😊

All this dragging thing.....Resulting in character going against themselves...!!...

CVs take care...!! DRAG IT IN A BETTER WAY...😆


They shouldve sent Nakku-Dutta for some puja shopping atleast 😆......some romantic scenes wouldve followed.....but no they had to do this whole monologue and babi-baaji's stupid ranting
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: SAraW

Awesome DD !!! Couldn't have said better myself..U have pointed out EVerything i wanted to say abt Nakusha's Dilemma and her controversial conversation with her Bappa..

btw... u seem to be affected by Adi's syndrome.. Itna lamba post yaar??? 😲

AS for baji..and why he came in between nakusha and her bappa..

From another post:

"Actually .. i think, Baji want this color revelation thing to be delayed he knows that naku wont listen specially when babi told him that she has left it over her bappa .. and the whole flower dropping thingy .. baaji knows abt nakusha determination.. so he intentionally wanted to put a hold on it ... offcourse he didn't meant her to hide this secret for the rest of her life.. he is waiting for the right opportunity (i.e only possible when after colors give them a nod k CVs ur good to go ! ) when he finds one .. he will tell nakusha abt The hera pheri he did .... 😃 just a mere POV only
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Adi's syndrome?? 🤣🤣🤣......
God, I didnt realize it....when I saw the length of the post, I too was shcoked but then I attributed that to this ever-analyzing mind of mine and added this as one more syndrome to LTL-Diwanis!!......🤣.....
Mere ko bimaari ho gayi hai Sara....I analyze, dissect and postmortem every reaction on these character's faces - only for LTL.....Especially Dutta....he challenges me with each of his gesture, expression, dialogue....His oscillation between at times subtle and at times direct, throws an open challenge - interpret me and predict my journey......Once done, see how my journey unfolds!.....I guess yeh bimaari bus badh ti jaati hai!! 🤣.....
On Baaji!! Totally with you....Ofcouse we were a little angry with him for interfering as that didnt match with our expectations.....we all remember how badly were we waiting for the flower to fall on the right side but Alas.....so, yes, being angry with him makes sense but his intentions were not bad!!!.....and exactly as u pointed out, he still thinks its not right time but he also sees Naku is unstoppable right now and after Bappa's decision, there was no way any logic wuld have worked with her....
do u realize the beauty of Baaji's reasoning too - He also knows whats right, and he also knows that Bappa would have in all probability gone for right and hence, it becomes imp for him to change that decision!!......the depth here is awesome!! 👏
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Originally posted by: Dancingdoll


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😳😳😳......Aap Aaye aur sirf do line likh ke gaayab?? 😆😆


BTW, I really wanna see the Naku and Baaji's confrontation when she realizes that Baaji interfered!!.....Would love to see Naku holding her punch, right near Baaji's face, (exactly Like Baaji did to her in the shed! 😆😆😆)......😆😆😆


*ducks chappals from Baaji's fans*......I was just kidding...I know she wuldnt do tht!!!😉




Ha ha ha 🤣 Aaj aapne mere muh ke sab shabd bol diye! 😊 Plus i am rambling too much as u already know... so reserved some words specially for u.. 😛 Thoda yahan, thoda kahin aur 😉
Naku usko punch kya maregi... Usko wohi fan ke aage khada kar ke fan full speed mein chaalu kar degi! 🤣 Ye Baji ki toh wat lagaenge Bappa ab. Wait and watch 😡 Paapi Baji! 😛

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