We are forgetting Anna is EVIL

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I've come across some posts and responses that talk of a compromise...Naku garnering a truce between Dutta and Anna with her innocence...or Naku preventing Dutta from killing Anna, not wanting Subhlaxmi to lose her husband.

I think it is a nice positive idea, in theory...but we are talking about Anna. He is sadistic, underhanded, and has no honor. A truce built with him is bound to fail. Love or no love.

Naku called Anna a rakshash and that is what he is. Yes, he may be fond of his wife, and his wife may worship the ground he walks on. But even Subhlaxmi knows her husband is wicked. So why compromise with the devil, who will then turn around and attack again or hurt others?

I think Anna has to die.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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thanku sooo soooo sooo much for this post gp...u dunno how much i love u for this...ab jaan mein jaan ayi..even im having the same thoughts as u dear 🤗 🤗

the story's main focus is at dutta and nakku..if nakku takes the bullet then this will be like a hindrance in dutta's profession ????
on nakku's part it is a very good idea..she is doing it for a good cause..but if the future story line is to be considered then wont this track HAUNT dutta whenever he goes to kill any of his enemy??!!..i hope u dont want dutta to leave is profession??...i want dutta to be a don only!!

anna is a ruthless man who never cares about emotions!!...his love for subbu is conditional he has no heart and gets gratification on seeing ppl getting hurt...doosron ko takleef mein dekhne se use khushi milti hai...and that the 1 MAIN reason y subbu doesnt like him..he is a gangster a criminal not like dutta !!!!..anna has seen many dead bodies!!..he has killed probably a thousand men!!...so do u think nakku's bullet taking will effect him??..there is a saying...."kutte ki dum tedhi ki tedhi"..he will take this for granted but will not be thankful to nakku...he has NO scope for improvement!!..some ppl atleast have a lil scope na but this person is sick!!! to the core


another thing is that y should nakku suffer all the tym???if she takes the bullet for dutta then im OK with it but not for anna!!! 😡 ...y is she the only person who is angelic here????...is she going to take troubles always in order to get ppl on the ryt track??..in LTL there is also AS and kala...in future if we see kala in such circumstances then will u still want nakku to take bullets or get hurt on kala's part to make kala realize her mistakes?????....and most imp..will the end result be as we are expecting????


like nakku,even subbu is quite a strong woman so in turn i expect subbu to take a decision..she should prove that she is stronger than her husband by taking the ryt decision...at least by helping ankku n dutta she will make up for her mistakes...she should play smart!!!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Today, Anna seemed a little uncertain of his wife, after he questioned her about why the pandit was there. He was a bit baffled by her explanation, but still seemed to accept it and let her have the room to do what she needs to.

I am absolutely of the opinion that Anna would kill his wife if she got in his way. If she helped Dutta and Naku, I fear what Anna's reaction may be. I also wonder how far she thinks she has to go to stop Anna. She's not there yet, but events will force her to it.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Totally agree with u Nazia , there can't be compromise ! The compomise can only take place if subu truly wants anna safe, but atfer watching nakku and her trust she is a bit shoked coz nakku knows dutta will come.

And subu isnt that sure abt anna.She always sticks her neck out for him but him, what does he do for her ? joota pyaar ? dikawa ? For now she knows that nakku's love and trust is stronger than hers ! The main reason is that nakku/dutta take risk for each other while on the other side only subu takes risks
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00

Today, Anna seemed a little uncertain of his wife, after he questioned her about why the pandit was there. He was a bit baffled by her explanation, but still seemed to accept it and let her have the room to do what she needs to.

I am absolutely of the opinion that Anna would kill his wife if she got in his way. If she helped Dutta and Naku, I fear what Anna's reaction may be. I also wonder how far she thinks she has to go to stop Anna. She's not there yet, but events will force her to it.



thats what even im fearing gp... 😊
i have a strong feeling that subbu should act now!!..even she is a superwoman in her own sense and the CV's should not wwaste her by doing this..i hope she goes againt anna...

today subbu DOUBTED that they might lose the battle and anna said...apne pati par jis ko vishwaas nahin hota woh marriage mein koi substance nahin hota...that this is not a good sign...sumthing like that...so i feel that subbu is losing confidence so automatically their relation is effecting...she will gradually go agaisnt anna..she already knws that what anna does is wrong!...

so i hope she choses 'humanity' to love or husband..it is difficult but for a human being insaaniyat se bad kar koi cheez nahin...if she continues to support anna then she is again proving herself wrong by helping the wrong person
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Posted: 15 years ago
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GP, good you bought up this topic. Man my work is killing me today, have some demo again tomorrow and monday, working on it 😭 ....have lots to say abt todays episode but no time.
Anyways to answer your Q, what is the criteria for one to categorize a person evil?. and how can you say Dutta aint evil?. Thats the problem yaar a person is grey and its the perespective which may show the peson in a certain light. So what if Anna is evil to us, there may be many ppl who adore him and love him?. Didnt u see how Subbu was sayng she got Anna after a lot of struggle?. Why will a woman struggle to get a evil man if she considers he is dil se bhi kala?. I somehow felt Subbu sees the goodness in the guy though he is 90 % evil, he is 10 % good too......... Now if we look at Dutta did u forget the woman who was taunting him at his shaadi?. She lost someone apna cuz of Dutta. There might be many such ppl who lost life cuz of Dutta, he himself agreed that he might have killed innocent ppl as part of his profession. So how can we categorize him not evil?.
We love him and want to see the good side of him ........ thats all. Anyways Iam all for it if Nakku can change a 90% evil person like Anna into human........... That will be a good leason for the on lookers and Dutta too , that war is not always won by weapon........ But then I may sound very naive even to think abt it that way taking into consideration Anna's kameenapan.......... but I believe that ppl can change and some moments do wonders in a person's life.......
Iam for whatever it takes for TaSha to unite....... but then if killing Anna is redundant , so let him be naa....... its good if he is left alone, he can come back as a changed man in Dutta's life when our Dutta ends up in trouble cuz of BH......... Good deeds never go unpaid 😊.
To forgive is divine ......... I believe in it Smile
Edited by Anu-Reddy - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

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<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#990000">Anyways to answer your Q, what is the criteria for one to categorize a person evil?. and how can you say Dutta aint evil?. Thats the problem yaar a person is grey and its the perespective which may show the peson in a certain light. So what if Anna is evil to us, there may be many ppl who adore him and love him?. Didnt u see how Subbu was sayng she got Anna after a lot of struggle?. Why will a woman struggle to get a evil man if she considers he is dil se bhi kala?. I somehow felt Subbu sees the goodness in the guy though he is 90 % evil, he is 10 % good too......... Now if we look at Dutta did u forget the woman who was taunting him at his shaadi?. She lost someone apna cuz of Dutta. There might be many such ppl who lost life cuz of Dutta, he himself agreed that he might have killed innocent ppl as part of his profession. So how can we categorize him not evil?. </font>

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<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#990000">We love him and want to see the good side of him ........ thats all. Anyways Iam all for it if Nakku can change a 90% evil person like Anna into human........... That will be a good leason for the on lookers and Dutta too , that war is not always won by weapon........ But then I may sound very naive even to think abt it that way taking into consideration Anna's kameenapan.......... but I believe that ppl can change and some moments do wonders in a person's life....... </font>

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<font color="#990000"><font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif">Iam for whatever it takes for TaSha to unite....... but then if killing Anna is redundant , so let him be naa....... its good if he is left alone, he can come back as a changed man in Dutta's life when our Dutta ends up in trouble cuz of BH......... Good deeds never go unpaid </font>😊.</font>



<font color="#990000">To forgive is divine ......... I believe in it 😊</font>



Hey Anu,
This is not such an easy topic, is it? 😆 We could get into a seemingly endless metaphysical discussion over what constitutes evil or not, and still not come up with a true definition.

So I will address your points regarding Anna.

What criteria for evil? My gosh, evil is about shades of gray, just as goodness is. But at the most superficial level in Anna's case, there is a delight in others' suffering. Not just those that are directly involved but those who are innocent as well. There is a sadism, lack of remorse, no ethical standards that even remotely resemble those of society at the most basic level. Evil is hurting, taking the lives of people, innocent and otherwise, without a just cause. (I'm going to get beaten up this latter point; what is a "just" cause?). EG killing someone who is about to hurt or kill an innocent person would be one just cause in my mind.

Why would Subhlaxmi want Anna if uska dil bhi kala tha? I could not answer that. There are many reasons ranging from the Kala principle (power, control over a man) or truly love. Perhaps there is some goodness in Anna. But to this day, I have not seen it in anything. Not his words, his actions, his memories, Subhlaxmi's recollections. The sadism is too prevalent that even some goodness may be washed away.

Is/was Dutta evil? Yes. He had remorse, guilt, but yes, he engaged in acts that made him evil. Now the question is where is Dutta now? Is he acting sadistically (well to Naku perhaps), does he get a thrill, a surge of pleasure from watching people mocked, suffering, and dying? That I do not think Dutta is. There is hope in Dutta, that we agree on. It was there before Naku too. She brought it to the forefront of his life. Subhlaxmi could theoretically "correct" Anna's defects, but his level of enjoyment from sadistic, disgusting things makes me doubt how much you can change him. He in my mind is like a serial killer...they are born with something loose in their heads, some research has even borne this out. Good luck trying to change that depth of evil.

Is evil changeable? Can someone turn from bad to good? Of course. But it depends on the person, their history, their genes, existence of some moral compass, god, so many things. So can Subhlaxmi change Anna, as Naku did Dutta? I think possibly, but not likely. Dutta and Anna as I mentioned are very different. For one, there was a moral compass, the other does not have a shred of it.

This is kind of where my head is at on this topic. 😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Gp iam yet to read ur reply but read the first line and the moment I read ur main post thats what I felt............this is getting serious 🤣.
Anyways we all know how our discussions go, one says north pole other says south and the end of the day we end up at the either side of the equator 🤣.
But then thats how knowlege passes on .........discussions , afterall Dutta is our fav topic isnt it 🤣.
Anyways I will read ur reply aram se and wil discuss over it....... still at work, its almost 7 in the evening, damn hungry and still working 😭 ........shouldve gotten a pillow and dozed off on my chair 🤣...........woke up at 4 in the morning and working since then 😭 ....I hate demos 😭😭.......
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

GP, good you bought up this topic. Man my work is killing me today, have some demo again tomorrow and monday, working on it 😭 ....have lots to say abt todays episode but no time.

Anyways to answer your Q, what is the criteria for one to categorize a person evil?. and how can you say Dutta aint evil?. Thats the problem yaar a person is grey and its the perespective which may show the peson in a certain light. So what if Anna is evil to us, there may be many ppl who adore him and love him?. Didnt u see how Subbu was sayng she got Anna after a lot of struggle?. Why will a woman struggle to get a evil man if she considers he is dil se bhi kala?. I somehow felt Subbu sees the goodness in the guy though he is 90 % evil, he is 10 % good too......... Now if we look at Dutta did u forget the woman who was taunting him at his shaadi?. She lost someone apna cuz of Dutta. There might be many such ppl who lost life cuz of Dutta, he himself agreed that he might have killed innocent ppl as part of his profession. So how can we categorize him not evil?.
We love him and want to see the good side of him ........ thats all. Anyways Iam all for it if Nakku can change a 90% evil person like Anna into human........... That will be a good leason for the on lookers and Dutta too , that war is not always won by weapon........ But then I may sound very naive even to think abt it that way taking into consideration Anna's kameenapan.......... but I believe that ppl can change and some moments do wonders in a person's life.......
Iam for whatever it takes for TaSha to unite....... but then if killing Anna is redundant , so let him be naa....... its good if he is left alone, he can come back as a changed man in Dutta's life when our Dutta ends up in trouble cuz of BH......... Good deeds never go unpaid 😊.
To forgive is divine ......... I believe in it Smile

Loved your thoughts but what stood out was the above line which i have enlarged. So if that is the case is their any hope for Kala? Do you think their may really come a moment when she genuinely changes? What are your thoughts on that. In one of the previous episode Baaji had announced to the family that Anna has returned who is biggest enemy. Little does Dutta know that his biggest enemy is actually in his own home.
Edited by ltl_fan - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

Gp iam yet to read ur reply but read the first line and the moment I read ur main post thats what I felt............this is getting serious 🤣.

Anyways we all know how our discussions go, one says north pole other says south and the end of the day we end up at the either side of the equator 🤣.


But then thats how knowlege passes on .........discussions , afterall Dutta is our fav topic isnt it 🤣.


Anyways I will read ur reply aram se and wil discuss over it....... still at work, its almost 7 in the evening, damn hungry and still working 😭........shouldve gotten a pillow and dozed off on my chair 🤣...........woke up at 4 in the morning and working since then 😭....I hate demos 😭😭.......



God, Anu. I hope you're able to go home soon. All these hours...your head must be spinning!

I absolutely agree on what you said. I love the discussions on this forum and the people who drive them, and wouldn't have it any other way! 😊

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