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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: sammy17

If you notice even ekta is ekta-fying the new gen though. So irregardless of whether she does a youth show, she makes the youth act just like her older characters.

Hahahaha that's exactly what I'm banging my head about since afternoon🤣turning young generation track into typical scenarios
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: manu9

I respect your opinion ... 😊 but i beg to differ she cannot restrict the audience or their interests just like that... keeping in view the age of technology we're living in every other person has access to these shows in one way or the other and likewise she cannot shut a certain segment of people out if they're giving their point of view or feedback. If youth isn't the target audience then why is she showing the love triangle among the 2nd generation which is of college going youngsters as shown till now...? she could've shown Abhigya''s journey to look for their daughters even without the youth romance. For instance, in kulfi kumar bajewala the father is an established musician who is searching for his daughter and vice versa... that show is successful without any teenage college romance.... As a creative and talented woman as you put it.... she could've thought of a million different ways to show the storyline if not realistic.... at least çonvincing

It's not my opinion. It's from her numerous interviews. At one point she was blunt enough to say if you don't like my shows don't watch it. Youth shows will not generate business at 9pm on a GEC in India. That's why she cannot discard Abhigya or Purab Disha Aliyah triangle. There was an article on IF on her interviews.She did mention it there as well. I remember hearing it on her interview at koffee with karan too.

If I find the link I will post it.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: poiu123

It's not my opinion. It's from her numerous interviews. At one point she was blunt enough to say if you don't like my shows don't watch it. Youth shows will not generate business at 9pm on a GEC in India. That's why she cannot discard Abhigya or Purab Disha Aliyah triangle. There was an article on IF on her interviews.She did mention it there as well. I remember hearing it on her interview at koffee with karan too.

If I find the link I will post it.

Haha that won't be necessary haven't been her fan anyway.... cheers!
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: manu9

Haha that won't be necessary haven't been her fan anyway.... cheers!


One of her interviews if you are interested. I’m not her fan , but that’s the expectation that I have from her TV shows 😃

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: poiu123


One of her interviews if you are interested. I’m not her fan , but that’s the expectation that I have from her TV shows 😃

exactly my point like I said earlier, I don't have any problems with you keeping such expectations.... that's your choice and your opinion thats perfectly okay...however I don't find her current plot interesting .... when it could have been better without the involvement of younger actors post leap.. when she herself said these shows aren't for the youth....
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: poiu123

Sorry to jump in. I think she has made it clear in her numerous interviews that her alt Balaji ventures is for the youth. She has a different target audience for her soaps and youth is certainly not a part of it. She makes these soaps for ladies in small towns and cities, mainly homemakers. They need not be old. Eg My domestic help loves her shows and she is 25.

She is an astute businesswoman who knows what sells and certainly not dumb. She wouldn’t have survived this industry for the last 15 years otherwise.

I’ve only watched two of her shows and the 2 I’ve seen does target the youth, yet with often regressive, mundane storylines that lack any sort of creativity. I’d go as far as to say the actors wardrobes have more creativity than the actual writing.

With KKB it seemed that initially the target market was older ppl however that can’t be the case any longer, with the newer generation that’s added. With the new gen also, they’re quite a focal point and not just there as supporting actors. I don’t see how she can target homemakers but then have the show on during prime time - this confuses me a bit. It’s showing a bit later now but before the last few months it was on prime time viewing.

Perhaps she preys on the fact that ppl often crave familiarity with soaps and serials don’t offer the long term familiarity due to them often being finite, so even when it gets too awful to bear it’s the familiarity of the characters etc who the viewer feels “connected” to and “feels like they know” which makes them continue watching. I can’t think of why else her shows will linger on for so many years, leave alone why she herself had lasted so long (it’s certainly not creativity or good writing to blame)

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: deefy89

I’ve only watched two of her shows and the 2 I’ve seen does target the youth, yet with often regressive, mundane storylines that lack any sort of creativity. I’d go as far as to say the actors wardrobes have more creativity than the actual writing.

With KKB it seemed that initially the target market was older ppl however that can’t be the case any longer, with the newer generation that’s added. With the new gen also, they’re quite a focal point and not just there as supporting actors. I don’t see how she can target homemakers but then have the show on during prime time - this confuses me a bit. It’s showing a bit later now but before the last few months it was on prime time viewing.

Perhaps she preys on the fact that ppl often crave familiarity with soaps and serials don’t offer the long term familiarity due to them often being finite, so even when it gets too awful to bear it’s the familiarity of the characters etc who the viewer feels “connected” to and “feels like they know” which makes them continue watching. I can’t think of why else her shows will linger on for so many years, leave alone why she herself had lasted so long (it’s certainly not creativity or good writing to blame)

thank you for further elaborating my POV🤗
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: deefy89

I’ve only watched two of her shows and the 2 I’ve seen does target the youth, yet with often regressive, mundane storylines that lack any sort of creativity. I’d go as far as to say the actors wardrobes have more creativity than the actual writing.

With KKB it seemed that initially the target market was older ppl however that can’t be the case any longer, with the newer generation that’s added. With the new gen also, they’re quite a focal point and not just there as supporting actors. I don’t see how she can target homemakers but then have the show on during prime time - this confuses me a bit. It’s showing a bit later now but before the last few months it was on prime time viewing.

Perhaps she preys on the fact that ppl often crave familiarity with soaps and serials don’t offer the long term familiarity due to them often being finite, so even when it gets too awful to bear it’s the familiarity of the characters etc who the viewer feels “connected” to and “feels like they know” which makes them continue watching. I can’t think of why else her shows will linger on for so many years, leave alone why she herself had lasted so long (it’s certainly not creativity or good writing to blame)

The interview I posted is of 2019 where she openly admits her shows are regressive and not for urban niche audience which is looking for content. It’s not my opinion again. I have seen her shows from Kyunki in early 2000s to now , must be about 50 of them. All her heroines if you notice will be sanskari , wearing mangalsutra and sindoor post marriage. If they have some sort of career before marriage, that is forgotten post marriage where the focus is on being a good Bahu. A FL is never happy for more than few epis in any EK show. She is always struggling. So that the ladies can identify with their struggles.

Two of her top shows today , the Bhagyas has 1 professor with a double post graduate degree as a lead and the other one is a doctor as FL. Where do we see them even remotely associated with their professional life ? I’m sure youth doesn’t want to see that. On prime time who gets the remote on TV? Do you stay in India ? At least from people I have seen in my work life and earlier , it’s the family TV watching time. Youngsters do not have much of a chance at the remote . It’s their moms and probably Dads. The shows oriented at the youth generally air at 7 pm or 7.30 pm at the max. Very few youth oriented shows are given 8-10pm timeslots in main GECs or do well in these slots in terms of TRPs. EK did have youth oriented shows in Star One once upon a time . But that channel was not a prime GEC.

I have seen many EK shows with gen leaps , eg BALH, PR etc. Even here inKKB , she is not keeping focus on college romance. That’s why focus shifted to office where Abhi and Purab will be there. Even during the college scenes , it was ensured by the CVs that all tracks lead to MM or Abhi/ Pragya where there was no necessity. That’s why the unnecessary parties at MM so that the older gen would be there and Prachi getting framed , Abhi rescuing her which gives drama for the audience. Prachi was targeted and struggling even though she is supposed to be 20 . So EK is keeping her older ladies audience engaged, because the youth will find all this nonsense .

They will show the fashion show in college with lots of drama too and another hit and miss between Abhigya. It’s a good opportunity for that.

Ultimately they will show Prachi and Rhea getting married to people despite not completing college . While Prachi will be a good Bahu. Rhea will be a villain. That’s the ultimate aim of this track 😀.Enough drama for the TRP audience. They may show a leap where Prachi will have a small kid and the consistency of an EK show is maintained I.e pleasing the masses like Salman Khan movies.

The new gen is here as they are 20 In terms of age.But the tracks will be modelled for EKs core TV TRP audience which is age group 30-60. That is what the show has shown so far and that’s what my prediction is. I’m not a writer of the show , but let’s see if EK has guts to cater to the youth with this show.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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@poiu, no chance I mean catering to youth. U put it beautifully. Only one thing I would like to add. Though her bahus were not working in earlier serials also, at least KZK or Kyunki or Kahani, the FLs showed more spine. And all characters except Konolika were not always villains. After PR, it is only u know ever sacrificing.....

Also she has made Kanyadaan and another where Sandya Mridul was lead. They had some content and it was aired in prime time. Of late, I feel as u said, she has taken people for granted.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Janas2017

@poiu, no chance I mean catering to youth. U put it beautifully. Only one thing I would like to add. Though her bahus were not working in earlier serials also, at least KZK or Kyunki or Kahani, the FLs showed more spine. And all characters except Konolika were not always villains. After PR, it is only u know ever sacrificing.....

Also she has made Kanyadaan and another where Sandya Mridul was lead. They had some content and it was aired in prime time. Of late, I feel as u said, she has taken people for granted.

Yes I agree with u. A Tulsi , Parvati and Prerna had lots of spine . Single woman army fighting all battles alone. Kanyadaan was nice . Hum Panch was my childhood Favorite. But sadly she does not make them anymore. I think Shaina of Kahin Kisi Roz also had some spine.

Her current FLs are lacking that spine. Maybe in her supernatural shows she makes the FLs a bit better. Pragya and Preeta lack spine. Prachi will probably lack it too later in the show. Already a lot of emphasis is being given on how she is like Pragya.

One thing is there. All her FLs are great cooks. I wish I learnt some good cooking 😃

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