Kumkum Bhagya EDT #12 - Page 5

Originally posted by: Uma2010

I am a bit surprised, if I may say so. Much of the venting here on the episode has been legitimate if the episode's evaluated rationally and like many of you have pointed out elaborately. I am just pressed to wonder whether the show's fans never felt similar indiscrepancies all through the earlier episodes.

As you conclude, it's all perspective. I will often say there's no point applying rational standards to most things on the show. That being said, when someone triggers a values conflict, all the rationality in the world doesn't help. To me the point is not whether Abhi's behaviour is rational or not. It's whether it's morally defensible or not. I don't find that it is. And yes, absolutely, there have been similar indiscrepancies, similar bursts of outrage, similar venting sessions, etc etc. It's been a wild three years but in some senses the more that changes, the more that stays the same. We have the same conversations over and over again, because the characters are written with the same dramatic shortcuts over and over again.

As I've mentioned earlier, I'm a newbie to the show who finished the first 700 episodes within a fortnight and it felt just as illogical at several points throughout, but what attracted me to the show were the quirks of the characters, the actors' pairing, their excellent acting, the writing/direction in bits and parts and Shabir ofcourse. That's exactly how I feel now as well. I continue to detest elements I hated in the earliest episodes as well, which I turn a blind eye to. The writing's still escapist, it's still ridiculous and illogical in parts and often very soapy.

Congratulations on the marathon. Thank you for mentioning that. It means a lot to know that there was something compelling enough in the show to make you actually go through that many episodes compulsively. There are plenty of people who deride this show - but to those who like it, there's a magic. Seems like it found you.

Still, I see it knowing all of that. So, I'm wondering based on what's happened to me previously with shows I'd been a regular viewer of on a daily basis than a marathon basis like I did here, do you guys think you've reached a stage with regards to the show when your personal vision and expectations of the characters and circumstances have far outgrown the writing standards, limitations and TRP jugaads as always were? Do you sense a show fatigue? Seeing a show nearly every day of the year for nearly three years is no mean feat. The show's been a large part of your lives now and its characters your family! So, the way you react personally to characters is quite plausible as well.

Yes, there's definitely a conflict in how I see the characters vs what they are on the show. In the last few months I've been trying to be more...equanimous? about that, especially Abhi. I realized that if after 600-700 episodes, Abhi wasn't behaving the way I thought he could, he's never going to. So it's always a struggle to keep the peace between the version of the character that lives in my head and the version on the screen. In a sense, if you care about good story, you absolutely should stop watching any show after the first 3 months. Because as a genre standard you can met that the initial story will not last longer than that - as you said the limitations and TRP jugaads were always a consideration. Hope just outweighed them...for some people still does. And no, I don't have show fatigue. If I did I'd stop watching.

As far as I'm concerned, I find myself empathizing with a guy who's lost his memory, whose family will not reveal his lost year to him for his own sake and who is torn between genuine care and attraction for a girl and a woman who he feels nothing for, but has to get hitched to for the sake of multiple reputations. To add to that, he is a celebrity with a lot of expectations upon him, a lot of odd and dangerous events happening around him with nobody really revealing their own readings to him and his best friend down and out now. I mean, I'd have gone crazy under these circumstances! But inspite of that, he still retains his cheekiness, the sight of his love still brings the glimmer to his eyes, he still feels terribly drawn to her and he still sorrows in private for those parts of the umpteen jigsaw puzzles he can't patch up. Nobody's really helping him either in these quarters either- they can't for medical reasons one supposes. So, I mean... it's all perspective. Things looks quite logical from where I stand. Take off our soapy lenses and hey, it's all insane nonsense.

Perhaps you benefit from collapsed perspective. The most recent, least resolved conflicts probably have a more powerful effect on the imagination. For me, I still carry a lot of unresolved griefs. I hold a lot of past things against the present situation. It's not fair but it's definitely a factor in what I bring to watching any new episode. As you said earlier, the characters are a part of our lives. When I tune in I don't usually keep it top of mind that I'm watching a track-just-as-it-is. I'm watching a track that has evolved from previous tracks. You're absolutely right that Abhi's at a huge disadvantage in his present situation and that no one is helping him. Is he helping himself at all, though? Does he care about getting his memory back? And what does memory loss have to do with making a joke out of someone's feelings for you?

I don't even know whether this post belongs to this thread since I'm an irregular member to IF, but still, I am just a bit taken aback at the reaction to an episode which I supposedly enjoyed and then come around here and find many venting on the same. I'd reiterate that all their points are extremely valid, but as I said, from a third person point of view, it's nothing new vis-a-vis the show, or so I feel imho. My two cents.

There were several venting posts in a row here, yes, but there are other members and viewers who haven't contributed here yet or who will visit this particular thread at all. You're not alone in liking the episodes - among all my friends (all met through this forum!), the majority opinion was that it was a fun, enjoyable epi.

I hope you enjoy IF and find the conversations you want to have. The show really is magical and it only becomes more so if you're lucky enough to find people to share your sense of magic with 😊

Originally posted by: -mina-

Originally posted by: HappyLove

Hey Uma 🤗

I totally understand what you are going through.

The episode was really good. Daily soaps are not for logical viewers. They are to watch and forget.

Trust me, Like you even I liked the episode. It was fun but they are some stuff which I felt was boring and some stuff which I did not like.

Recently a friend told me, if you are so v intrested to watch great things, watch documentaries or the award winning short films, why do you watch a daily soap and spend most of the time venting on it.

That's when I understood how I should watch the soap.

Trust me, you are in the right path and don't get deep into thoughts about episodes and create havoc in your mind.

Haha... Happy Love 🤗 . The watch and forget mantra is what I go by after considerable years of experience. And yes, if I find myself needing to vent because of a show now, I'd rather break free from its clutches and check in after a week when the clouds have cleared 😆.

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Also Uma, This deatialed discussion is happening from many years.

Members here have all the rights to put forth their views. You can always join all of us.

If you are not comfortable with a discussion, you can always create a topic with what you are comfortable. Trust me, many people will join you or you can simply join a place you like and ignore what you don't like. 👍🏼

I just wasn't sure whether the EDT is a place for discussing opinion about viewer opinion😆

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You started watching recently? But i would say you got to know Abhi the same way I understand.

I have been watching him since 2 years.

I would want love to read more from you about him (both positive and negative) in Abhi's AT.

I know you are there, be more active.

I'm glad you find my reading of Abhi close to yours. I've lamented enough on not having discovered 'him' earlier. So, your words soothe me. Will try to be vocal on Abhi's AT. Thanks!

Originally posted by: Naina-

Hi Uma, first of all, welcome to the EDT :)

700 episodes in a forthnight!! Wow, thats dedication loll, but I understand-its totally addicting!! The reasons that got you hooked were pretty much the reasons I got hooked as well and I'm glad that you are able to see beyond the minor discrepancies on the show here and there and still able to enjoy what the daily soap provides to its core audience!😊[DIV]If you like an episode and feel like no one else did, don't hesitate to voice out your opinion of why you loved it! There have been many times I dont like an episode, read reviews by other members here, and rewatch it in a different light.

Also, I liked the episode today too for the most part, except for a few annoying parts here and there. Plus the precap was aaahhh-mazing!!

Originally posted by: Naina-

LA, i hope shes gonna save purab from nikhil if thats the case!

Originally posted by: -mina-

LA, Nitin's never going to answer that. My guess is he wouldn't even take the question seriously. It's not a question that has a real answer - it's just a precondition of the world.

Originally posted by: Shanaya_98

Yesterday's episode was really weird for a viewer like me. I don't watch it regularly but I do know what's going on in the story. I watched Friday's episode and wanted to see what will happen on Monday. It turned out to be a stupid prank by Abhi. Completely nonsense!! Are holi pranks about insulting someone, making them cry and then saying "Holi hai"!! That was really annoying. And Pragya's character, woww, I mean really?? She was all smiles.. that was so irritating.. Even the time when she was begging Abhi "to forgive her, aisa fir se nahi hoga".. what was your mistake girl?? I really don't have any sympathies for both these characters. Apologize for your mistake once, if he is adamant on throwing you out.. leave na!! Why begging for apologies!! Even Abhi running behind two girls has become completely annoying.

Yes these two makes a wonderful couple but it should make some sense. That scene where Abhi applied colors on Pragya with his cheeks was beautiful but then he was running behind Tanu to make up with her. He must have his whatever reasons for that but as a viewer I was completely annoyed.

Originally posted by: Uma2010

I am a bit surprised, if I may say so. Much of the venting here on the episode has been legitimate if the episode's evaluated rationally and like many of you have pointed out elaborately. I am just pressed to wonder whether the show's fans never felt similar indiscrepancies all through the earlier episodes.

Welcome to the EDT, Uma, if I can call you that! I'm Prani. Thank you for your posts. I liked the episode too.😊 We're a truly diverse group of viewers and are lucky to get different perspectives here.

As I've mentioned earlier, I'm a newbie to the show who finished the first 700 episodes within a fortnight and it felt just as illogical at several points throughout, but what attracted me to the show were the quirks of the characters, the actors' pairing, their excellent acting, the writing/direction in bits and parts and Shabir ofcourse. That's exactly how I feel now as well. I continue to detest elements I hated in the earliest episodes as well, which I turn a blind eye to. The writing's still escapist, it's still ridiculous and illogical in parts and often very soapy.

Congrats on your binge watching achievement!😆 Not easy to compress 700 epis in 2 weeks! I agree we have interesting characters with their imperfections, and terrific actors. Watching this show for over 2 years has taught me the art of selectively purging past events so that the present is easy to consume.

Still, I see it knowing all of that. So, I'm wondering based on what's happened to me previously with shows I'd been a regular viewer of on a daily basis than a marathon basis like I did here, do you guys think you've reached a stage with regards to the show when your personal vision and expectations of the characters and circumstances have far outgrown the writing standards, limitations and TRP jugaads as always were? Do you sense a show fatigue? Seeing a show nearly every day of the year for nearly three years is no mean feat. The show's been a large part of your lives now and its characters your family! So, the way you react personally to characters is quite plausible as well.

Definitely. Watching the same things without any progress is annoying. There's something about this script that's so fixated and yet 7-8 months have passed in the same track. It's like being on a stationary bike!😆

As far as I'm concerned, I find myself empathizing with a guy who's lost his memory, whose family will not reveal his lost year to him for his own sake and who is torn between genuine care and attraction for a girl and a woman who he feels nothing for, but has to get hitched to for the sake of multiple reputations. To add to that, he is a celebrity with a lot of expectations upon him, a lot of odd and dangerous events happening around him with nobody really revealing their own readings to him and his best friend down and out now. I mean, I'd have gone crazy under these circumstances! But inspite of that, he still retains his cheekiness, the sight of his love still brings the glimmer to his eyes, he still feels terribly drawn to her and he still sorrows in private for those parts of the umpteen jigsaw puzzles he can't patch up. Nobody's really helping him either in these quarters either- they can't for medical reasons one supposes. So, I mean... it's all perspective. Things looks quite logical from where I stand. Take off our soapy lenses and hey, it's all insane nonsense.

I totally agree with this. I like the variety in Abhi's character. He's dramatic, intense, funny, and romantic. What a combo! I mostly watch to be entertained.😆 So far Abhi's character keeps me entertained.

I don't even know whether this post belongs to this thread since I'm an irregular member to IF, but still, I am just a bit taken aback at the reaction to an episode which I supposedly enjoyed and then come around here and find many venting on the same. I'd reiterate that all their points are extremely valid, but as I said, from a third person point of view, it's nothing new vis-a-vis the show, or so I feel imho. My two cents.

Thank you for sharing your perspective! It's thorough and deep. Enjoyed reading your thoughts.