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Posted: 9 years ago

#81

I liked Pragya's recent dialogues and attitude . She was the only one who protected Abhi so far and in turn took all his bad mouthing. She absorbed all of it but never flinched from her mission.

Ofcourse , you can say she lied or delayed or failed. But her sputtering the truth would not have helped Abhi in the first place, for he never trusted her and he would never have learnt about the people around him, since they were all his and with him before Pragya came into his life.. Now he is going to learn truth , but in a hard way which is good for him in a way.

Seeing Sarlaji pain is heartbreaking , but she seems too emotional. If a child is hungry or lies or is upset, the first person to recognize and understand is a mother. No one can fool a mother's love, but she failed her test. Not saying her daughter is less wrong in hurting her mother.

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Mina

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Posted: 9 years ago

#82

Oh, guys. Call me delusional, obsessive, or just plain wrong. But I have to believe that something is up.

Watched today's side by side couch scene several times. What's up with that staging?! I can't ever recall ever seeing a similar scene. AbhiGya talking as equals, but both exasperated. Trading counterarguments and reaching deadlock. I was happy, at first, that Pragya told him that he should feel free to do whatever he wants, because he'll be the one to suffer for his own folly. But now I'm uneasy about that, too, because it looks like Pragya giving up on Abhi - and just yesterday, I was bitterly snapping about Abhi having given up on Pragya.

Rewatched Thursday's weird bed scene too. Again, strange camera angles. May not mean anything; KKB is not known for skillful, thoughtful filmography. Still, created a very odd mood, and made me unable to take the scene at face value. Also, what kind of ridiculous solution is "divide my wealth evenly to everybody"? Let's please remember that as far as Abhi and Pragya know, the traitor is someone selfish and money-hungry enough to want to kill Pragya and let Aaliya suffer alone when Pragya trapped her. Why on earth would such a person be content with a mere share of Abhi's wealth when they're obviously angling to have everything? And in what universe would Abhi think that's a satisfactory solution to anything? And I'll repeat, him saying "I don't even want to know who it is" just doesn't make sense.

Anyway, at the end of the day, I cannot take an Abhi as aggravating as this one on face value, so for my own mental peace - I really do have to believe that he's up to something. And I just hope, whatever it is, it doesn't leave Pragya looking like the one who has made a series of unforgivable mistakes.

That's one counter-intuitive thing about these kinds of serials. Fundamentally, they're about the heroine's struggle and the heroine's fulfillment. In the end, she always wins. But along the way she can fail many many times, and be made to look wrong and foolish, and hurt, endlessly, by everyone. Some of the scenes this week, with Abhi's new protective attitude to Tanu, seem expressly designed to please that segment of the audience that enjoys the subtext of Pragya's pain and frustration. But that same segment only enjoys it because they know that under everything, Pragya's in the right. Abhi's wronging her, and she's bearing it, but it's a noble endurance. Mind boggling how that works, if you stop to think about it.

And one more thing I can't believe about Abhi. He tells Pragya that he's decided to give his child his name because he owes it and Tanu that much justice, and he's reached this commitment after much thought. But - that's exactly what Pragya was trying to get him to do at the outset. I don't believe he suddenly values this where he never thought it was important before. It sounds like a strong argument, but for Abhi of all people to be making it - something's not adding up.

Please oh please oh PLEASE let there be more to all of this than meets the eye. It's all too damn depressing if there isn't! 🤔

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Cerealgirl

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Posted: 9 years ago

#83

So what do you think he's up to, Mina? You mean he knows about Tanu? Or he's misunderstanding Pragya?

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Mina

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Posted: 9 years ago

#84

I don't know. I think he's trying to provoke Pragya. To what end...I don't know! Maybe he's casting about for a reason to not have to accept the baby...that's what he's using as his shield for every choice now, so maybe it's actually what he most wants to run away from? Shooting arrows in the dark here. Just want there to be more than what seems to be going on 😕

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Cerealgirl

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Posted: 9 years ago

#85

He could be confused. If she is really fuggy like she has confirmed after Aliya's exposure, then why is she not supportive of him marrying Tanu could be one question in his mind. Because fuggy was big on them getting married. So he maybe wondering why Pragya is against his marriage now. He's probably now thinking it has something to do with the baby and trying to get her to tell him??

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Mina

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Posted: 9 years ago

#86

Trying to get her to tell him, yes. Forcing things to a crisis point I guess.

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Cerealgirl

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Posted: 9 years ago

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IDK, Mina. Is he pushing for fuggy to expose herself or for pragya to tell him the truth about baby?

If he is pushing Pragya and Pragya can't expose baby daddy, then later when he finds out about the baby and others knew about Tanu's lie, that's going to be hell for Pragya.

Maybe he's just dangling Tanu marriage so that fuggy will out herself and stop him from getting married. Today might have been a blow to him when she asked him to marry anyone he wants and walked out.

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Sowmii_cutiee

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Posted: 9 years ago

#88

Originally posted by: Cerealgirl

Saturday Jan 23 epi - Bilateral separation - Mixed episode - good and sad

The baby daddy walks in and out of MM, and Pragya or Purab can't nab him. It's irritating to see social scenes when we want to get this over with.

Another round of Tanu attacking Pragya. What guts CV's have to rub this in now, again? Abhi is falling down and down in a deep, dark hole. He spoke the truth today - Tanu is the right person for him. He's right. That's where he is and that's what he deserves. Terrible scene.

TaKhil games are getting unbearable! Clever, Nikhil! This is his way to make money.

Another close encounter with Nikhil and Tanu by Ronnie and Mithali. Mixing stupid humor with villains is not what we want to see now. I hope Ronnie at least tell Pragya what he saw.

Abhi-Pragya scenes. A milestone moment. They're both parting out of choice. Sad. Not what we want to see, but we knew this was coming. Excellent development by CV's. Abhi's reasons are flimsy and questionable. But Pragya's reaction to Abhi reveals her new state of mind.

Pragya's lines were fantastic. Agar aapko Tanu sacchi lagti hain, jayiye uski shaadi karlijiye. Aapki zindagi hain, move on and get married to whoever whenever, man! Loved her dialog delivery. Her attitude and tone say it all! Excellent job letting go, Pragya 👏. This is not playing hard to get! She's sensible. She realizes he's a lost cause. She realizes she can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved. She moves fast like lightening.

"I'm warning you. And whether you'll get it before you get married or after depends on your kismat and his understanding." That tells me he's going to find out about the baby after he leaves with Tanu. Well, Abhi, it looks like Pragya is your bhagya, not the other way around. She can make it on her own. Abhi's choices are going to doom him. You lose her you're losing you're luck, bro! Sad!
I liked the direction and music for the scene. Sitting next to each other versus facing each other tells me they're beyond a convo. These are ultimatums to each other. This is the fight of their lives literally and figuratively! Pragya moving away from Abhi was a strong clue. Pragya walking away from Abhi was a fantastic stroke to show she's walking away from him too. What self-respect!

Pragya is on high ground now. Abhi sitting next to her, looking shocked when she said do what you want, and stopping her at the end are signs he's still after her. Pragya has moved on. Sad as it is, good for you Pragya. This is more healthy for you!
After such a painful scene, she's still on track with exposing Tanu in the precap. I find her grit totally amazing!

@ Bold: Prani... What can i say.. you stole my thoughts again.. I feel that Pragya is really pissed off and gave up on making Abhi believe her and giving away hints to him.. I really Love the attitude of her now. I never wante dher to get tooo emotional and cry. Love her Attitude towards Abhi.. And even he is a bit shocked.. What she has to do is just bring the truth out and leave everything to Abhi.. Dont even have to justify why she has done all this.. I want Dadi to do that job..

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anamika.viji

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Posted: 9 years ago

#89

Originally posted by: Cerealgirl
IDK, Mina. Is he pushing for fuggy to expose herself or for pragya to tell him the truth about baby?
If he is pushing Pragya and Pragya can't expose baby daddy, then later when he finds out about the baby and others knew about Tanu's lie, that's going to be hell for Pragya.
Maybe he's just dangling Tanu marriage so that fuggy will out herself and stop him from getting married. Today might have been a blow to him when she asked him to marry anyone he wants and walked out.

prani...she already told him na,,,she has lot of things to do..after tht she will be back as his fuggy..then whts the need to expose herself as fuggy again?she told on tht drunk state tht she is hiding something from him n feeling bad for tht too..only possible thing for hos act is to bring out the fact whats she is hiding other than aliya's truth? even yday he asked her to tell the truth ..

clearly she told tht if the truth brings loss to him, will he bear it ...there is no answer from him,..

dont forget ,he also worried abt getting fuggy back becos she may ask him to marry again...his actions are too much confusing..

the way they talked siting silently side by side ...thts not the kind of talk they do always...she always fight back fiercely..

when abhi comes to know abt ykw's true nature n baby truth ...its not going to make pragya's life hell..he is the only one who is going to feel hell...how many hints she gave ..did he try to believ ...

like mina said...pragya's actions ..her silence ..bothering me a lot too...lookslike she given up completely...well ..how long one can beat the nonsense crap throw at ht always.? her helplessness n hurt whn she was being taunted by the love lectures , baby talk by ykw ...it was too much...its hurting her toomuch...moreover on top of tht abhi's claming of ykw's undying love on him ...though she talked silently we can feel the turmoil inside her ...her eyes expressed all...full of anger , misery ..when he said tht he is going to marry ykw ...

but abhi didnt expect tht she will give up on him this easily for tabhi wedding...atleast tht shd make him feel something is under ...

the feels sriti expressed ...no words to describe 👏watched the episode just for her & the way she expressed pragya's feelings

when ykw's baby truth comesout , abhi is the one who is going to feel hell...howmany hints she gave ...did he ever try to believe her words..?

one day he is asking her ..wht feelings she is having for him ...next day , he is deciding to get married to ykw...n never give ears to listen wht she is trying to say...

when she was fuggy , she was the one who made him to accept tabhi wedding because of baby..now she is back as LM n postponing tabhi wedding...why isnot entering his mind tht it has something to do abt the baby ?

after seeing her eyes when he said tht he is going to marry T & going to give baby his name even if ykw is after his money only ...i feel she lost hope tht he loves her anymore..after exposing T, she is definitely going to leave MM...whts the use is loving a man who has no trust on her? i think thtswhy she decided to move from tht room..

like she told abhi...its your life ..decide yourself...if going to hell is written in his destiny ,he can go there..

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Sowmii_cutiee

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Posted: 9 years ago

#90

Originally posted by: Cerealgirl
He could be confused. If she is really fuggy like she has confirmed after Aliya's exposure, then why is she not supportive of him marrying Tanu could be one question in his mind. Because fuggy was big on them getting married. So he maybe wondering why Pragya is against his marriage now. He's probably now thinking it has something to do with the baby and trying to get her to tell him??

She has 100% conformed to him that she is fuggy.. Remember the scene where Abhi Abhi is sleeping in the bed beside the fuggy doll and Pragya came n asked him what is he doing with the fuggy doll which is me... There Abhi could have said that the fuggy doll is not her or she is not the fuggy doll.. But he didn't.. Which indicates that he knows that Pragya is his old fuggy... He might have got fed up with her and is using the tedha raasta which he mentioned after Aliya's exposure..