what you think???? - Page 2

Originally posted by: RadiantSanz..

^ @naina2010:

Pragya is in love. She fell in love with Abhi when he saved her family, and accepted the fact that he may never love her back [so she thinks :P]...Yes, she should speak up more, but before her realization that she loved him, she would have indeed slapped him & walked out of the marriage faster than a speed of lightning. I don't know how to explain it, I get these characters, somehow 😆 Alright, essentially, it is an EK show, so Pragya will be sitting there and not defending herself like she should be, but it's a teensy bit more complicated than that.

In this age of feminism [I am a VIGOROUS feminist 😆], I would say that EK shows do sometimes [hell, always] cross the line, but in this case, it's more of falling in love and willing to do ANYTHING for Abhi, because he is the kind of man she wants - a man who will help her & her family when needed. Is Abhi being ridiculous? YES. But we know it's his plan now..and do remember that in EK shows, when the guy falls for the girl finally, he does the same thing. When Abhi finally falls in love with Pragya..he will also be willing to do ANYTHING for her, just as she is willing to now. Unfortunately, Prags fell in love with her husband when he is MUing her - now that the truth will be out - let's see what Abhi has in store for his wife :)

Pragya is self-sacrificing. Pragya is mahaan. Who disputes it? But she also maintains that through the very first episode when she refused her first marriage on behalf of her family. Point being - there IS strength in her .. we'll see old Pragya come back when AbhiGya are secure in their marriage & are falling in love. Because when the rush of newly-found love dissipates, what remains is eternal calm and gentle love - sorry, I get this weird because of a show called Rangrasiya and it's messsages 😳

As a Pragya stan, I can say what's happening is painful but understandable. As an Abhi stan, I can say he is the craziest, weirdest pati on the history of Indian TV and I love him too, sigh 😆😳 And them together, are magical.

@OP: [original poster]

I'M SO GLAD IT'S ALL A PLAN! Bhagwan help me, if it wasn't I would go insane like I did yesterday when it looked like Abhi was a complete sadist. 😆 This week will be really exciting now that the truth's out. Aaliyah..pft, she can't be found out till the end of the show, she's the main obstacle. It's Tannu and Mitali's dark age now..we'll see :) I can't wait!

Originally posted by: babydolll

what you think guys are we going to get track where abhi will repent his deeds????

Originally posted by: naina2010

Pragya character is spineless and she will go back to the house of grave where every relationship is false. And CVs will try to show the nok jhoks of these couple which highly not digestable 🤢

That old lectures of nani and worthless concerns of Pragya towards that old lady respects Pragya. Honestly , Pragya shows that her life is with that grand old lady not with the man she married. Total crap. The characters suffering clearly looks like self imposed to suffer volanterily because she loves that ways she is treated now by that man.

Originally posted by: Laila2009

EK has a warped concept of love. I see no reason for sane, respecting woman love this man. Only a woman who has no self respect would fall for Abhi. Sure he did something nice, but that alone does not make you LOVE someone. We a;; know she is supposed to be in love - that's what makes it so unbelievably sickening.

Is it EK, or is it unfortunately and sadly Indian values themselves though?

The reason these shows get high TRP is the drama quotient, right? Mangalsutra removal, forced marriages, Indian shows, regardless of who is the producer, do them. Remember IPKKND? [If you've watched.] Arnav forcibly married Khushi, she contemplated suicide for the hurt he was driving her through...and this show was produced by Gul Khan, a youth icon for love stories. I don't deny I adore IPKKND, but which Indian TV show doesn't have these warped concepts of males doing these things?

In fact, it's sadly ingrained in our culture. I as an Indian American may have no experience with these values, but relatives in India recently asked why I'm not getting married yet and offered to find me a groom who'll like me. I'm twenty years old..and a pre-med student 😆 My parents, of course, put their foot down, but point being, do I shun my relatives for being regressive? No, I still love them. Because it's their culture that has ingrained the idea that girls need to be shaadi'd quickly, needs a pati to serve, needs shelter, etc.

In terms of Indian TV. Like I said, EK, Gul, they all make women manhandled, do crazy things for their angry husbands, yada yada yada. What impresses me is how Pragya HAS inherent strength in her. She really does, and it'll come out soon. As for the scenes which cross physical and emotional abuse, I tend to forget those times, and focus on the essence of the story. I'm crazy that way.

Sigh. Indian TV will not change for a very long time. Simply because our culture fed those, and Ekta took them up and inserted them on TV. But let's forget all the dard Abhi has given Prags..you said nice things alone can't make someone fall in love with them. But do catch-and-fall eyelock scenes? Does chemistry? IDK I just feel that rather than fall in love with someone for the classic 'he's hot', 'i know him', 'he and i share chemistry', a relationship based on what someone does for them does count for something. Pragya fell in love because he saved her family - she is self-sacrificing not just in pati regards, but also in that she will kill herself for her family too. Once Abhi saved her family, he in essence became her family too, so she's willing to die for him too. Is he worthy? Not so much. Can he be worthy? To each his own :P Totally understand if you are sick of him, idek, I think redemption can be drawn out so that he'll have worthiness. As I said in my earlier post, he needs to grovel for what he did.

Thanks for commenting. You know, you have amazing points and they're all true..sadly, it's that Indian TV i just don't think is ready for the raw truths of feminism..or at least don't get it. :P

Originally posted by: Lkb79

But that begs the question - what needs to change first? That which is presented on TV or the values of society? What is easiest to change first? I think the answer to the first question is hard, but the answer to my last question is a bit easier.

I am Indian American as well. It's probably why I can't relate to any of this gross garbage on this show. But I can relate to changes that have occurred in American society, a lot of which was corroborated, if not initiated, by what was presented on TV. For example, the laws on gay marriage changed long after healthy gay couples were shown on TV, long after Ellen announced on her sitcom that she was a lesbian. People needed to see that before they could understand that society wouldn't dissolve into anarchy if more people were afforded the right to get married.

We can keep saying that TV shows don't mean anything. It's just entertainment. It's just meant to be fun. To an extent, that's certainly true. But it's also not entirely accurate. Most people in the world watch TV. It's an important tool with which to spread art, information, a message. It is also medium through which novel ideas are presented and disseminated. Maybe it's unfair but I sometimes think that Ekta has a responsibility to honor that power she has. But then I think why should she have that responsibility? She should just make money the best way she knows how, just like everyone else in the world. Let someone else try to change the world. 😆

I guess the question I really want the answer to - how do we know there can't be high TRPs in shows where the husbands are such abusive jerks and the wives are such idiot doormats? Is there no attractive drama to be had in that scenario? Maybe there isn't and I'm completely wrong in thinking there is.