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Posted: 17 years ago
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I do understand the problem Ranbir faces, if Kanya becomes Natasha in his absence. But Natasha is an alter ego of Kanya and actually in split personality cases usually the victim is unable to do something forceful and protect themselves and this evolves the split personality. Here Natasha is very powerful which means Kanya's alter ego of Natasha evolved when Kanya was faced with something powerful. So logically the best thing for Ranbir would have been that he just postpones the marriage till the problem is solved rather than going ahead and breaking up with a "bewafa clause".

Also I think it is high time Pammy/Anand/Ranbir should let Kanya know the truth and help her overcome her split personality. I mean just covering the truth is going to hurt the wrong way. Now Ranbir has not just spoiled his life and Kanya's but bechara Manav is also a gone case.
Regarding the whole point of proving the love Ranbir could have supported Kanya during her treatment time and this would have cemented the relationship much better. Kanya really doesn't know why Ranbir talked like that(that's the reason the truth should be out soon) and what is she supposed to understand at that point. Plead with Ranbir to take her no matter what. He proved his love but did nothing to assure her when she was confused as to why Ranbir was acting weird after the Natasha attack. And then the acting with a girl was really too bad. No girl would accept a guy's love after he talks and acts that way. Frankly this is the only point I really liked in this serial that they showed Kanya moving forward. I really hate the over dramatics of Indian soap queens who spend eternity waiting for their love or do the other stupid thing of committing suicide. Love should help you and not hurt you. And I really think if Manav is played by a dashing guy that would have been awesome.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: psarada

Okay guys I like to add one point. Ranbir says he loves kanya a lot but somehow I am not that convinced about it for first of all If love someone you don't hurt them. Ranbir did the whole aditya girl thing for a reason but he still could have broken up the relation is a better way than taunting kanya and destroying her self-esteem. And the other thing I really don't understand is that what does Ranbir mean when he says I don't want her to marry any other person. I mean would he be happy or will be happy when Kanya is crying over him. Aditya was right when he pointed out that. He said if you want to marry her let's go now and get both of you married. If not let her go, she deserves the happiness. If Kanya just sits on crying then will her love be proven? I think girls should not be shown as sacrificing queens, it just paints a wrong picture. Honestly do you want any of your loved member to just cry and suffer for their love. I don't. I would really like them to move forward and be happy. If then can be happy with the person they love that's really great but if not what's wrong in trying to find happiness with someone else.


Actually it would have been good if the character Manav is played by a really dashing guy. That would have been really good. Ranbir would have been jealous more than he is now. But I feel he deserves it because he choose to break the relationship. Whatever it is Love doesn't ask for suffering. It asks for happiness. Honestly my 2cents on this topic.

thats were i agree
i dont think hese fullin covincing on his love
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: psarada

Okay guys I like to add one point. Ranbir says he loves kanya a lot but somehow I am not that convinced about it for first of all If love someone you don't hurt them. Ranbir did the whole aditya girl thing for a reason but he still could have broken up the relation is a better way than taunting kanya and destroying her self-esteem. And the other thing I really don't understand is that what does Ranbir mean when he says I don't want her to marry any other person. I mean would he be happy or will be happy when Kanya is crying over him. Aditya was right when he pointed out that. He said if you want to marry her let's go now and get both of you married. If not let her go, she deserves the happiness. If Kanya just sits on crying then will her love be proven? I think girls should not be shown as sacrificing queens, it just paints a wrong picture. Honestly do you want any of your loved member to just cry and suffer for their love. I don't. I would really like them to move forward and be happy. If then can be happy with the person they love that's really great but if not what's wrong in trying to find happiness with someone else.


Actually it would have been good if the character Manav is played by a really dashing guy. That would have been really good. Ranbir would have been jealous more than he is now. But I feel he deserves it because he choose to break the relationship. Whatever it is Love doesn't ask for suffering. It asks for happiness. Honestly my 2cents on this topic.

THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU!!!😀
But seriously guys Kanya is not a mind reader nor is Ranbir.😆 How would she know what Ranbir is thinking or what he's doing and for who he is doing it for? And how is Ranbir supposed to know that Kanya didn't betray him?(Remember how he reacted when he found out she's Natasha) He was all ready to expose her and he looked at her as if he was going to kill her). They both have or had doubts about each other and misunderstandings as well. Especially in the past during the Godbole days. How was she supposed to know that Ranbir had changed? Sure she started to like him a little but then she started not to expect anything from him because at that time he wasn't willing to admit anything. And now even if it was for pretend, she SAW the man that she loves in bed with another woman. How would you feel? She was shocked, jealous, and shattered. Are you telling me you wouldn't feel the same way????!! And the things he said to her? Well that made her feel insecure and lowered her self-esteem in herselff. He practically brought her out of her fantasy world and back into her reality where she is just a ordinary middle-class girl. So she decided to prove Ranbir wrong by deciding to go look for a job but on her way she found Manav (an equally middle-class boy) where she asked him if something was wrong with her. But the way Manav complimented her she started to feel better about herself thus she ended up asking him if he would marry her. For two reasons she's going through with this whole marriage thing -Ranbir (well mostly because of Ranbir) and because Manav is the first guy who complimented her after she was rejected by Ranbir. She's basically punishing herself by marrying someone she hardly knows but in way feels is he's the right guy for her who is in her status level. But not in the romantic level. Manav likes her more than she does😆. She's doing all this to spite Ranbir because Ranbir is very much in her heart. Damn it, Ranbir has her heart. If he didn't then she wouldn't have felt his presence outside the restaurant. (I really loved that scene by the way, the way she placed her hand on her heart. That was nicely done.)
Anyways, this whole suffering thing can we just agree to diagree??!! The way I see it they both are suffering and will continue to suffer. They both have suffered.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: spate22

THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU!!!😀
But seriously guys Kanya is not a mind reader nor is Ranbir.😆 How would she know what Ranbir is thinking or what he's doing and for who he is doing it for? And how is Ranbir supposed to know that Kanya didn't betray him?(Remember how he reacted when he found out she's Natasha) He was all ready to expose her and he looked at her as if he was going to kill her). They both have or had doubts about each other and misunderstandings as well. Especially in the past during the Godbole days. How was she supposed to know that Ranbir had changed? Sure she started to like him a little but then she started not to expect anything from him because at that time he wasn't willing to admit anything. And now even if it was for pretend, she SAW the man that she loves in bed with another woman. How would you feel? She was shocked, jealous, and shattered. Are you telling me you wouldn't feel the same way????!! And the things he said to her? Well that made her feel insecure and lowered her self-esteem in herselff. He practically brought her out of her fantasy world and back into her reality where she is just a ordinary middle-class girl. So she decided to prove Ranbir wrong by deciding to go look for a job but on her way she found Manav (an equally middle-class boy) where she asked him if something was wrong with her. But the way Manav complimented her she started to feel better about herself thus she ended up asking him if he would marry her. For two reasons she's going through with this whole marriage thing -Ranbir (well mostly because of Ranbir) and because Manav is the first guy who complimented her after she was rejected by Ranbir. She's basically punishing herself by marrying someone she hardly knows but in way feels is he's the right guy for her who is in her status level. But not in the romantic level. Manav likes her more than she does😆. She's doing all this to spite Ranbir because Ranbir is very much in her heart. Damn it, Ranbir has her heart. If he didn't then she wouldn't have felt his presence outside the restaurant. (I really loved that scene by the way, the way she placed her hand on her heart. That was nicely done.)
Anyways, this whole suffering thing can we just agree to diagree??!! The way I see it they both are suffering and will continue to suffer. They both have suffered.
Shreya

Well, I am looking at it from the overall prospective of the whole 7 months , from the beginning days to now, and Kanya hasn't done much for Ranbir, compared to what he has done for her.
I like Kanya character now, she moving in the direction that I want her to move. But the love that she shows to Ranbir is below standard.
Well, maybe the fault in his the character sketch, maybe its in the ways that Dimple protrays Kanya. She is a mindboggling character.
And Shreya I kind of agree with your point that reality has hit her!
And the scene where is felt his presence keeps replaying in my head over and over again. It was awesome!
Edited by Multani90 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: smilingstar3

Wow what a heated discussion! I would have to say that despite the fact that Ranbir was a jerk in the beginning of the serial, we saw a full change in him fully. Yes, now, he was a jerk to Kanya while breaking the relationship, but he had a good cause behind it. Pammay and Anand also are aware of this. So they CAN back up Ranbir. I too think that even though I can see where Kanya is coming from...due to two terrible past experiences, she still needs to grow up as a person. I hate how she always follows what SHE thinks is correct, and lacks to see the other persons perspective. Why in the world did she doubt Ranbir's true love? He did SOOOO much for her. He CHANGED because of her...and he even stayed in her house and did all the stuff they wanted him too. If he were the same arrogant Ranbir that he started off as, he would NEVER do such. He indeed, did suffer a lot. Kanya?

Yes, she suffered at first. With the whole Ayan deal, but after that? Other than the split personality disorder which she is unaware of...she didn't suffer that much. Evne though they didn't want Kanya's character to be the rona dona type, they STILL should have shown atleast SOME emotion coming for her. I did see it when she was questioning Ranbir's love...but after that?? It was like WHATEVER! On to a new guy! And yes, perhaps she's just trying to prove to Ranbir that she is capable for marriage and such, but geez! What is UP with her!

During Ranbir's sufferings, she was chasing after Chunnu, saying that she wanted to marry him and blah blah blah. So I agree, Kanya's character DOES need to grow up a bit and be much more stronger. Ranbir's gone through so much, and he learned from his mistakes. It's Kanya's turn. She too needs to show how strong she is and how strong her love is. There hasn't been much of a change in Kanya, as there was in Ranbir.

And yes,
this is just a show, but if Kanya is the protagonist, they atleast need to give her a strong, solid role. Not this confused, childish role that she's portraying. I agree with both sides where it is proclaimed that both Ranbir and Kanya were wrong. But atleast Ranbir made up for his mistakes, and is still trying. Kanya on the other hand, is still selfish with the matter.

Interesting discussion!

^ agree with everything you said word by word!!!🥰

I agree with everything most of you have said but one thng soooo glad Manav is not played by a dashing guy! For what? Ranbir has already had competition and suffered. He has been on the jealous road by a man who can best him at things. Kanya needs to know it's not easy to find a guy like Ranbir. He is a treasure. Manav adds to the comedy but it would've been cool to see a better guy play the role!

And I can't believe one should ever pick love over family. he has lived with his family for 38 years, and he should put all of them in danger with natasha bhootni for a girl he has known for less than 38 months?? I would question to be with a guy who can leave his family like that. But it would've made more sense to postpone instead of breaking up totally. But that doesn't give the show a new story! It would've been the same she turns into Natasha and he goes to stop her. BORING and repititive!

And no one has a personal grudge against Kanya her character sketch is just uneven with Ranbir. Which is the creative's fault and I hope they will fix it.

It's so right that Kanya got mad at Ranbir for cheating on her Duh any right girl should. I doubt anyone would sit and analyze why her fiance is sleeping with another woman 3 days before their wedding! Ranbir took the wrong step here.

that still doesn't change Kanya's love is nothing compared to Ranbir's. She is not even a nice person compared to him. She is a self centered little girl. I miss the girl who stood upto mean Ranbir and saved Malika knowing she is the enemies mother. Who lied to Shanta tai about being Shanaya. She had a backbone and her own mind to think. And didn't need body guards!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Wht r they doing with kanyas character. THey r makin it full of contradictions.They wanna show her as someone modern who has moved on in life. MoVIN on can b shown in so many ways- She marryin Manav in a hurry just goes on to prove that she has this typical mentality-That marriage is the be all and end all of everything.Goin for JOB ki talash was OK. THey should have shown further.
And Dont tell me shantu and Pooja dont have Their plans on board of getting Ranbir pitwaod by Natasha by secretly mailing her.So even rabir"s family ki safety ke liye break up had no logic.
Poor creatives are tounge tied and handstied- they r scared to give more depth to her character cos they have their doubts of her pulling it off.
so till our heroine fully proves her potential to the creatives, all we will get is an imbalance in the percentage of love felt between both sides.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajkin

Wht r they doing with kanyas character. THey r makin it full of contradictions.They wanna show her as someone modern who has moved on in life. MoVIN on can b shown in so many ways- She marryin Manav in a hurry just goes on to prove that she has this typical mentality-That marriage is the be all and end all of everything.Goin for JOB ki talash was OK. THey should have shown further.
And Dont tell me shantu and Pooja dont have Their plans on board of getting Ranbir pitwaod by Natasha by secretly mailing her.So even rabir"s family ki safety ke liye break up had no logic.
Poor creatives are tounge tied and handstied- they r scared to give more depth to her character cos they have their doubts of her pulling it off.
so till our heroine fully proves her potential to the creatives, all we will get is an imbalance in the percentage of love felt between both sides.



hmm i agree with most of the stuff.. but i love the seperation its somewhat shows what they are like without eachother. kanya's character needs to be updated .. if theyre trying to show a modern girl standing up on her own two feet thats not the way to do it...
i'd say hatts off to the creatives for seperating both and hope it will stay that way until kanya won me over of being ranbirs!


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Posted: 17 years ago
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Woa long speeches going here😆 the ones that r with ranbir i agree with them🙂 I have a short speech : to remind u guys when ranbir was in the godbole house he was abt to say something nice to kanya and then he put his hand near the wall and got ELECTRICSHOCKEDShocked and thas a quite SERIOUS thing but still NO1 called the docter or showed no concern they were just laughin at him and talking abt the electric wire that weather it should be covered up or not and then anand was like no it costs so much money and stuff and then they left leaving ranbir ELECTIRSHOCKED just like that How sense lessShocked they r reli zoo animals oh sorry animals also take care of eachothere if one gets hurt 😆
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: candy princess

Woa long speeches going here😆 the ones that r with ranbir i agree with them🙂 I have a short speech : to remind u guys when ranbir was in the godbole house he was abt to say something nice to kanya and then he put his hand near the wall and got ELECTRICSHOCKEDShocked and thas a quite SERIOUS thing but still NO1 called the docter or showed no concern they were just laughin at him and talking abt the electric wire that weather it should be covered up or not and then anand was like no it costs so much money and stuff and then they left leaving ranbir ELECTIRSHOCKED just like that How sense lessShocked they r reli zoo animals oh sorry animals also take care of eachothere if one gets hurt 😆

yea
but if u noticed kanya kept on asking are u ok
are u ok
review the video again
and then he wasent hurt
his hair blew up
and what he had to do he did
he called the girls= ]
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I don't understand y everybody is (whoever is blaming) Kanya..dont u think she has enough problem with split persoality....the way Rannu rejected her was very hurtful...Rannu knws the reson but Kanya doesn't,all she knws is tht every guy she truly loved rejected her n hurt her.....I feel really bad for Kanya......

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