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As I understand, this track is also about Nidhi's transformation into a woman of substance apart from the couple's love being put through the test of fire.

Now, I have a few questions in my mind about this whole woman of substance thing, I am wondering why there is a need for this transformation given that she already appears like a woman of substance to me.

1. She is bright and persevering ' AIR 14 and being a good intern then and now

2. She is self-respecting- she turned down the job Ashutosh got her

3. She has family values ' she refused to go against her family for love

4. She is loyal ' she refused to give up her love for her family

5. She is giving and compassionate ' she accepted Mallika in her home

6. She is looking towards self-actualization ' she has put her career plans ahead of planning a family

Granted she has made mistakes here and there but is that enough to dub her as lacking in substance? I would think not! She is definitely not as complex or layered as Ashutosh as a character but she is not completely flippant and flighty either. But does substance equal complex layers? As I see it, all Nidhi needs is to focus on her career and achieve professionally. She is already a good daughter, wife and friend and maybe, someday in the future, she may be a mother too if she desires. So, what is this growth that we are to witness?

Coming to the questions, I have just two '

1. Is a woman, a natural mother, incapable of having her maternal instincts awakened? What does it have to do with her desire to be a mother?

2. Is a woman incapable of the same compassion and largeness of spirit as a man?

Maybe this track is not about a woman of substance. Maybe it is about a woman's resurrection as a human being. And I don't mean Mallika!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sujatha agree with your 6points...Nidhi appeared so many times as a woman of substance,so many times proved herself as an intelligent, compassionate humane being,loving & caring daughter,Bahu, friend...sometimes she behaved more maturely than any girl of her age group,e.g. the way she handled Mallu in the past tack proved herself a woman of substance...tho sometimes she irritated us with her impulsive behaviors but her mature acts are greater in number than those..
Right now she puts her career over her motherhood seems to me normal & doesn't bestow her lacking in substance... when she desires to be a mother surely she would be a great one...she has all kinds of traits to be a wonderful mother...
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Sujatha agree with your 6points...Nidhi appeared so many times as a woman of substance,so many times proved herself as an intelligent, compassionate humane being,loving & caring daughter,Bahu, friend...sometimes she behaved more maturely than any girl of her age group,e.g. the way she handled Mallu in the past tack proved herself a woman of substance...tho sometimes she irritated us with her impulsive behaviors but her mature acts are greater in number than those..
Right now she puts her career over her motherhood seems to me normal & doesn't bestow her lacking in substance... when she desires to be a mother surely she would be a great one...she has all kinds of traits to be a wonderful mother...



So what is this track all about...that is my concern, Roza...while people may think it is about empowerment, I am tempted to think otherwise...while nobody expects perfection, compassion is all about being human...and not about being perfect...so is the track about teaching Nidhi compassion...ad how can a woman who has been so compassionate in the past suddenly need lessons?

Btw, you never answered my questions 😊
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in my opinion it is not nidhi who is to be transformed. It is asutosh who must be transformed into a normal husband. and mallu to be changed into a true friend which she is not. I remember a tamil movie where an old man goes and tries to solve everybody's problems uninvited. turning to be a nuisance. someone will comment what will the old man do if there is no problem to solve. The other one will reply he will create a problem and then solve it. That is happening to nidhi, She is a woman of values apart from some mistakes we all are bound to make. Is it a big sin to postpone motherhood that she has to be tested with fire and resurrected.Why make her a layered woman who hurts her loved ones( in the words of KP) in the process of learning and what is there to learn for her. Even ashu lacks professional decorum, fired her for personal reasons, behaved like a hubby in the hospital and now he is upset with her and he remembers he is her boss. for your first question every woman has dormant maternal instincts, But motherhood does make her aware of it. After becoming a mother you become so sensitive to another child's suffering.I feel mothers are more maternal when compared with unmarried women or yet to be mothers.. And definitely it is a woman who is more compassionate when compared with men.
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Originally posted by: radhika72

in my opinion it is not nidhi who is to be transformed. It is asutosh who must be transformed into a normal husband. and mallu to be changed into a true friend which she is not. I remember a tamil movie where an old man goes and tries to solve everybody's problems uninvited. turning to be a nuisance. someone will comment what will the old man do if there is no problem to solve. The other one will reply he will create a problem and then solve it. That is happening to nidhi, She is a woman of values apart from some mistakes we all are bound to make. Is it a big sin to postpone motherhood that she has to be tested with fire and resurrected.Why make her a layered woman who hurts her loved ones( in the words of KP) in the process of learning and what is there to learn for her. Even ashu lacks professional decorum, fired her for personal reasons, behaved like a hubby in the hospital and now he is upset with her and he remembers he is her boss.



Radhika...your points are well taken...but since this discussion is only about Nidhi as a character, I am assuming that you agree with Nidhi is already a woman of substance,...

All I want to know is where is this journey going to take her,...and what about answering my two questions?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sujatha.rao



Radhika...your points are well taken...but since this discussion is only about Nidhi as a character, I am assuming that you agree with Nidhi is already a woman of substance,...

All I want to know is where is this journey going to take her,...and what about answering my two questions?

forgot to answer and i have edited my post with answers. She is already a woman of substance . This journey will take her away from asutosh and bring her back to him "realizing her mistake of choosing career and asking for 2 years" this is the whole idea of this learning . asutosh will be a mahaan who continues his friendship in the name of humanity and nidhi will accept it . Choosing a career is her mistake no 1 and refusing to accept mallu is mistake no.2. Folks may bash me up for negativity but this is the picture I get from his replies.
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Originally posted by: radhika72

forgot to answer and i have edited my post with answers. She is already a woman of substance . This journey will take her away from asutosh and bring her back to him "realizing her mistake of choosing career and asking for 2 years" this is the whole idea of this learning . asutosh will be a mahaan who continues his friendship in the name of humanity and nidhi will accept it . Choosing a career is her mistake no 1 and refusing to accept mallu is mistake no.2. Folks may bash me up for negativity but this is the picture I get from his replies.



I don't think it is about making her realize her mistake about the two year thing...he has already said that Ashutosh will be glad he gave her the time...my concern is not even that...it is portraying her as a woman who is devoid of compassion suddenly, when faced with an extreme situation...even if she feels her husband has emotionally transgressed, it does not have to make her less compassionate to a fellow woman...this is about teaching her compassion which I thought she already knew...far more than Ashutosh, it is Nidhi's character that is being trashed here...!
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So what is this track all about...that is my concern, Roza...while people may think it is about empowerment, I am tempted to think otherwise...while nobody expects perfection, compassion is all about being human...and not about being perfect...so is the track about teaching Nidhi compassion...ad how can a woman who has been so compassionate in the past suddenly need lessons?

Btw, you never answered my questions 😊

First one or two years of marriage are very crucial for any couple as they try to know each other in close proximity under the same roof,they make mistakes,rectify & eventually solidify their union...one of my friends got married after 4years of love affair but divorced after 3months of their marriage...
May be the writer is showing the same thing happening in Ashu Nidhi's life,some times Ashu is indifferent to Nidhi's desire , unable to understand her insecurities, her thinking,sometimes Nidhi is unable to understand his desires,miscalculates his certain behaviors,they are two different human being with completely different personal traits,so mu are bound to happen,may be through this journey they will be able to accommodate each others wishes n both will turn to be person of substance...
@bold don't think so.




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Posted: 13 years ago
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it is a known factor redemption in ktlk means trashing one person and raising other one. Ashutosh was damaged beyond repair in the previous track.It is now nidhi's turn. the 2 year time frame is used for this, Mallu is helpless pregnant woman and ashu has a convenient reason. ( his subconscious desire). nidhi should understand this . accepting a mistake and remorse is the first and foremost thing in redemption. I am yet to see a redeemed mallu in the true sense.
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Originally posted by: radhika72

Quote @ Sujatha

it is a known factor redemption in ktlk means trashing one person and raising other one. Ashutosh was damaged beyond repair in the previous track.It is now nidhi's turn. the 2 year time frame is used for this, Mallu is helpless pregnant woman and ashu has a convenient reason. ( his subconscious desire). nidhi should understand this . accepting a mistake and remorse is the first and foremost thing in redemption. I am yet to see a redeemed mallu in the true sense.



Why Mallika...i think all the characters are screwed up in their own ways...and truly inconsistent...maybe that is what makes them real...since we are all screwed up too...😆

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