saw the 1 epi and didn't watch it again-Haseena

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KingK_QueenK_

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Posted: 13 years ago

Karachi-based Haseena Moin, who wrote the original classic, isn't impressed. She was hesitant to give away the rights of her famous drama. "Basically, I'm against remakes because woh baat phir se nahin paida hoti jo pehle keh chuke hain," she says. It was the merit of Rang De Basanti writer Kamlesh Pandey, who is the creative in-charge of Kuch Toh Log Kahenge, which made Moin change her mind. She saw the first episode and didn't watch it again. "Dhoop Kinare was about a relationship that developed over a period of time. In this show, the romance started from the beginning. Their eye contact started from day one. Do minute tak woh ankhon mein dekhte hi rehte hain. Zoya was bubbly, but she never overacted. The casting doesn't feel right," she says.

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tanu

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Posted: 13 years ago

Not surprising...being a DK purist myself..i feel Kamlesh Pandey has really not been able to live upto the initial hype of recreating DK.. at all...!! The only thing KTLK runs on is.. its leads...n their stellar performances...and the brilliant.. magical potion called.. AshNi!!

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StrangeStories

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: KingK_QueenK_
"Dhoop Kinare was about a relationship that developed over a period of time."

I think this one line essentially sums up why KTLK has not lived upto expectations. I'm not quite surprised that Haseena ji is unimpressed with the show. Even though the show is decent compared to the endless nonsense on Indian television, compared to DK, it is a letdown most definitely.

The difference between DK and KTLK lies in the fact that while DK was made for the audience KTLK is made for TRPs. DK was an attempt to tell a unique story while KTLK is more of a business venture/investment for Sony and Rajan Shahi. DK was made once a completely bound script was in place, KTLK is altered every week according to the whims and fancies of the makers/audience/TRPs. In this day and age of instant gratification the writers have just rushed through the story at the speed of lightening and that too only for one thing - TRP. The main lead (MB), the producer, the writer, the channel, everyone is after TRP - no one is bothered about the quality of the show, which is just sad.

Personally, I like the casting of KTLK (regardless of KK overacting at times). MB and KK are the sole reason for me still watching the show with utmost interest. Even Ishita, Vishal, Rukhsar are doing justice to their roles. The biggest disappointment is Mr. Kamlesh Pandey and his substandard writing. The show could have been so much better than what it is right now if they had chosen a better creative head... :(

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Posted: 13 years ago

DK purists would find the adaptation to be a colossal disappointment. Which is why I am not surprised that Haseena ji is not impressed.

The show could have been lifted with intelligent writing. The channel and the makers could have invested about 4 months or so in developing a cohesive script considering the fact that this is a daily soap dictated by TRPs. Feel terribly let down by Kamlesh Pandeyji. Hoping that a lesson is learnt out of this experience by Sony and the makers.

Indian shows tend to be louder and livelier than the pakistani counterparts for good reason. Probably why Haseenaji thought that KK appeared loud from time to time. But that is subject to perception. But I will re-iterate that MB and KK are fabulous actors, the only motivation for me to watch the show, plagued with terrible writing over 50% of the time. Nevertheless this show is light years better than the rest of the crap on TV. By indian daily soap standards it is an awesome show and a step in the right direction. I am still very happy that TRPs are increasing gradually week over week. 👍🏼

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tanu

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: DeepShadow

The difference between DK and KTLK lies in the fact that while DK was made for the audience KTLK is made for TRPs. DK was an attempt to tell a unique story while KTLK is more of a business venture/investment for Sony and Rajan Shahi. DK was made once a completely bound script was in place, KTLK is altered every week according to the whims and fancies of the makers/audience/TRPs. In this day and age of instant gratification the writers have just rushed through the story at the speed of lightening and that too only for one thing - TRP. The main lead (MB), the producer, the writer, the channel, everyone is after TRP - no one is bothered about the quality of the show, which is just sad.

Per say .. MB ...these are his thots on the TRP driven TV world...

Being a feature film actor for almost 99% of my career having spent the last 30 years doing around assorted kinds of roles, in around 150 films the one thing that stands out the most when I compare films to television is that whereas in a film script, when you get hired to do a particular role, it remains exactly that role for the entire duration of the film, with extremely minor edits. However, in television you get hired to do a role and then without waiting for the script to settle, there is a knee jerk reaction and for the sake of trps they start changing the script, characterization, story progression etc etc. There seems to be a complete lack of confidence and belief in the script as far as television is concerned. If you do not "believe" in your script, how do you expect to convince the audience?

Awful feeling for an actor...

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achiever

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Posted: 13 years ago

well Haseena ji is amongst those yesteryears who was brot up in era of classics wer time or money didnt motivate any script, show or film.. bt the passion, quality, and desire 4 excellence ruled the art of cinema.. yes thn it was "art" now its pure "commercialization" so no dbt Haseena ji is disappointed with the show..

bt for me, i wudnt compare DK with KTLK tho its adaptation its treated differently... i felt Zoya's character was underdeveloped and treatment of romance in DK was a bit boring in a way.. the only outstanding and utterly impressive character i found in DK was Ahmer.. also considering it was a limited epi show.. Haseenaji didnt have tht freedom to peel off layers in detail of both characters.. i still feel it was Ahmer's story and not Zoya's.. and scriptwise too it had it flaws.. even certain dialogues wer repeated.. bt have to agree still it was classic.. and bcoz its compared here i m giving my unbiased opinion and stating DK's set of flaws.. Old is a classic.. bt it doesnt necessarily mean its flawless.. plus its from completely different era.. from my POV 2 shows shudnt b compared.. u cannot compare a classic hindi film with a niche films of todays..

having said tht.. KTLK has still lot to offer to become cult classic.. its not at all an easy job in this TRP driven era to deliver a decent classy flavor and maintain TRPs as well.. so far from Nov onwards KTLK has been successful tho thr r initial hiccups bt i believe once it get req TRPs it will turn into one of those cult classics.. if thy go in the same way.. it has lot of potential and still lot of story telling is left..

for me its too early to judge and compare both shows.. one is complete.. one is still on..

for Haseenaji she mite not b satisfied.. and agree with the overacting bit.. nidhi defo overacted a bit here and there in oct epis.. so obviously she is not impressed with her character.. for me Nidhi and Zoya are different characters and i luv thm on thr own merit.. as for Ahmer -Ashu both have same intensity.. bt the fire/rage in Ashu was missing in Ahmer.. which i very much like in Ashu..

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Mehek25

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by achiever

well Haseena ji is amongst those yesteryears who was brot up in era of classics wer time or money didnt motivate any script, show or film.. bt the passion, quality, and desire 4 excellence ruled the art of cinema.. yes thn it was "art" now its pure "commercialization" so no dbt Haseena ji is disappointed with the show..

bt for me, i wudnt compare DK with KTLK tho its adaptation its treated differently... i felt Zoya's character was underdeveloped and treatment of romance in DK was a bit boring in a way.. the only outstanding and utterly impressive character i found in DK was Ahmer.. also considering it was a limited epi show.. Haseenaji didnt have tht freedom to peel off layers in detail of both characters.. i still feel it was Ahmer's story and not Zoya's.. and scriptwise too it had it flaws.. even certain dialogues wer repeated.. bt have to agree still it was classic.. and bcoz its compared here i m giving my unbiased opinion and stating DK's set of flaws.. Old is a classic.. bt it doesnt necessarily mean its flawless.. plus its from completely different era.. from my POV 2 shows shudnt b compared.. u cannot compare a classic hindi film with a niche films of todays..

for me its too early to judge and compare both shows.. one is complete.. one is still on..

for Haseenaji she mite not b satisfied.. and agree with the overacting bit.. nidhi defo overacted a bit here and there in oct epis.. so obviously she is not impressed with her character.. for me Nidhi and Zoya are different characters and i luv thm on thr own merit.. as for Ahmer -Ashu both have same intensity.. bt the fire/rage in Ashu was missing in Ahmer.. which i very much like in Ashu..

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Achiever I agree with all that u have said particularly the parts in bold...I have watched only the abridged version of DK on YT and I also fell in love with Dr Ahmer's character.

i too feel that it is not fair to compare a show which lasted only for 50+ episodes with an India daily soap which is needed to go on for 200+ episodes. Once the basic plot of DK had been explored it was no longer a remake of the old show...After that it became purely an Indian TV daily soap...And for me it has become a show in its own right since quite a while now...

But yes there is one thing which i also do agree on with the critics and that is they showed Ashni falling in love a bit too soon...That aspect could have been developed more slowly and aesthetically...Particularly Ashu should have been shown as falling in love gradually given his introverted character...And then Nidhi's dismissal also came too soon... but of late the show has been quite well written and done...

As for the lead pair per se I feel that MB and KK are doing a fabulous job...true initially KK's acting was a bit OTT but it did tone down considerably once the realisation that she loved Ashu dawned on her...her expressions and acting depicting her heartbreak after her rude dismissal are proof of what a good actress she can be given the right setting...

So in my POV friends I think we should not compare the two shows too much now and accept KTLK as a show which is dealing with a topic of two individuals with a relatively big age difference falling in love and how they brave all odds in this process of falling in love and whether their love will reach culmination or whether the world will step in and create problems for these two...

Agreed that Hasinaji is upset by the way KTLK has been scripted but she must also remember that KTLK is only based on DK and the requirements of a daily soap in 2011 is bound to be very different from the requirements of the 1980s...I think DK was made in mid 1080s so again there is a 20+ years gap between the two shows...In those days all the public needed was a good story, good dialogues and good acting and a show was considered well-done ...but now a days the public want long long eye-locks, and all the romance that can be meted out...KTLK despite being different in its story etc has certainly carved a niche for itself in the hearts of those viewers who are tired of the usual saas-bahu stuff...So lets give it some more time and see how the show goes...so far barring a few flaws I have not been disappointed in the way it has been shown and I will continue to watch it if only for the lead pair who are doing a superb job in it...

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Rabzonedge

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: DeepShadow

I think this one line essentially sums up why KTLK has not lived upto expectations. I'm not quite surprised that Haseena ji is unimpressed with the show. Even though the show is decent compared to the endless nonsense on Indian television, compared to DK, it is a letdown most definitely.

The difference between DK and KTLK lies in the fact that while DK was made for the audience KTLK is made for TRPs. DK was an attempt to tell a unique story while KTLK is more of a business venture/investment for Sony and Rajan Shahi. DK was made once a completely bound script was in place, KTLK is altered every week according to the whims and fancies of the makers/audience/TRPs. In this day and age of instant gratification the writers have just rushed through the story at the speed of lightening and that too only for one thing - TRP. The main lead (MB), the producer, the writer, the channel, everyone is after TRP - no one is bothered about the quality of the show, which is just sad.

Personally, I like the casting of KTLK (regardless of KK overacting at times). MB and KK are the sole reason for me still watching the show with utmost interest. Even Ishita, Vishal, Rukhsar are doing justice to their roles. The biggest disappointment is Mr. Kamlesh Pandey and his substandard writing. The show could have been so much better than what it is right now if they had chosen a better creative head... :(

You have given words to my feelings...i think about KTLK..xactly the same way..biggest disappointmnt of KTLK is writer...if they change CT show will be better with consistency in storyline and characters...

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TitanFan

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Posted: 13 years ago

I havent seen DK... theme of this age difference was main attraction for me followed by MB and RS ...

Well , DK was in mid or late 80's so the treatment will be different and so will be the story telling as far as i heard pakistan shows dont go beyond 40-50 episodes ????

KTLK main problem like many said is , Rushed, Weak and Inconsistency in script ...

Well , the romance didnot start from day 1 , it was more like a casual liking or attraction not infatuation another reason to fall in love with a person .

They tried balacing Yday;s presentation keeping in mind today;s changed in life style , and different perception of two ppl , one who takes job so serious he has no life, one who takes job casually and being good at her work yet never letting go her free spirited persona . in showing this some wat stumbled there ...

I personally dont have problem with NIdhi;s ckt... Bubbly and matured, they kinda balanced it but failed to show her as a ambitious gal , well yes she dislikes the career , yet they showed her as a good doc , that could have showed in depth so her childish acts could have balanced rather than screaming out loud. Atleast Angie has a career mind but Nidhi career is flat ... her change of mind to continue in her career was shown nicely with a newly born kid in her hand, but they didnot high light it , her care ,concern and unknown bond for Ashu was rushed and became sole reason for her return major let down ..The way Ranga said , many Interns came and went but never seen one like u , by that he meant, she is not only a free spirited full of life gal who is a responsible doc but still a young gal at heart her doc profession havent changed her into a professional minded one alone ... this was not shown properly

There wasnt no introspection from both reg their feelings, there was no confusion, fight, denial a basic for love story which spoiled the process of falling in love , all it came out was in a spur of moment ... just like that , even if that was bound to happen again the handling is bad ...

Ashu ckt was good, a sulking man , who loves to live in locked room is taken in by a bindas gal , happens who makes him fall in love with life and smile which he seem to have forgotten , was shown in one week bus , could have shown it amazingly but as usual they failed

Again i say its wrong to continuously compare one show with another one ...even with a loose script Presentation is something which holds the audience , which RS is aware of , and his team is struggling there alone ...

MB and KK are good in their roles, but being honest there had been moments when the needed expressions or spark in their eye talk was missing ...

If and only if , they had known when to use Angie, and Ranga, they could have showed a epic falling in love process .

TRP plays major role... with a loose script cvs should never make it obvious for audience to feel bored , thats the case and hence to maintain their audience they are jumping from track to track with out properly closing one ... and messing up many unseen tracks ,,,,,,,

did i make sense , donno wanted to blabber for a change 😆

So my point, its not only wrong to compare both shows but also wrong to analysis their change in ckts ,since one has to rem indian shows run more than 6months mini and if one even get the hint of show getting closed in 4months without much in it, they wont stick to it...