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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaavi


I see Ishwari as making the right effort while Sona is making no effort at all. Ishwari did promise Sona that Soha will still have the same place as before and she did exactly that. She didn’t vacate Soha from her room, but added Ayush there as being equal to Soha. She tried to use Soha’s thing’s for Ayush as her way of saying they are equal and have the same place.she even prepared dum aloo which is Soha’s favorite.


Ishwari is trying to compensate for what Sona is not doing. Sona is the one who went to Ayush’s house, not Ishwari. Sona did both hug him nor even touched him while there. Dev shouldn’t have had to tell Sona to sit in the back, that should have come from Sona herself. Same with the vase. Sona did not go to Ayush and that was the reason why Ishwari had to go and comfort him.


This is all on Sona and is nothing to do with Ishwari. She was so quick to get Soha to their room and give her that sense of safety which she is not making an effort to give to Ayush who really needs it at this time. Sona is the adult here.


If you say Sona needs time to accept this new reality because of who Soha meant for her, then that was the same thing with Ishwari. She needed time too to accept Sona as Dev’s reality. But was criticized in every possible way for her reluctance. Sona cannot be right for the same thing where Ishwari is considered wrong. Sona should be held to the same standards as Ishwari.


Ishwari is trying to be what Sona should be. And she is doing that only because of Sona’s attitude. It is a spiral. One’s behavior feeding the other. Neither Ishwari nor Sona are doing right. Blaming only Ishwari is unfair.

As far as my understanding goes,


1. Ishwari is not making the "right" efforts. She is over enthusiastic in her pampering & that is making Ayush feel suffocated. Ayush was not eager to come, he was brought here against his wish. Because Ishwari wanted her apna khoon delivered at her doorstep, right away. Yes, Sonakshi had gone with Dev to see Ayush & after hearing about his bond with Rohit, she asked to give Ayush some time. Because she was worried Ayush was not ready for such a life altering situation right after losing his father. She was worried Ayush wouldn't be able to handle it. Ishwari is turning her worries into reality. That poor boy is among a new bunch of people whom he never met before & he isn't even being given the time to adjust. Ishwari's constant hovering & over pampering is suffocating him. He is already scared of her. Sonakshi is hesitating because she's not sure how to approach him. She wanted to hug him today, but instead hugged that soft toy because she was not sure whether it was a good idea. She didn't pressure Ayush to call him Maa because she didn't want to be demanding of him. She wants to give him a chance to adjust to things at his own pace. Also, Soha needs to be taken care of because she needs to be prepared for the prospect of having Ayush as her brother. The way Ishwari is going about it, it wouldn't create any bond between them. It will create bitterness. Imagine you being the centre of attention till today but suddenly a stranger comes & you are told to share your stuffs with him. Would you like it? Suhana would grow animosity towards Ayush that way, just like Neha did for Dev. Sonakshi is trying to prevent history from repeating itself.


2. How are Sonakshi's situation & Ishwari's situation even comparable? 😳

In Ishwari's case Dev was getting married, not stop being her son. Every mother out there knows that one day her son/daughter would grow up & get married. Call it societal norm or whatever....but it is the obvious future. And most of the mothers don't go berserk over it. They prepare themselves for it & accept it gracefully. It's a regular occurrence that every mother has to go through some day or other. Nothing new or unjust.

On the other hand Sonakshi is being told the child whom she knew to be her daughter for past 10 years is not her child. This another child is! This is so different. It is not something that could be predicted & certainly not something that any mother can prepare herself for. This unfortunate thing happens in rarest of the rare cases. This is not a norm, not something every mother has to go through. Only few unfortunate woman faces this situation & it is hard for them.

You are equating two completely different situations which are not even comparable.

Try telling Ishwari that Dev is not her son at all. Rather some random girl is her daughter & then imagine how loving caring Ishwari would be to that girl. That would be a comparable situation.

Edited by NotAMuggle - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#12

This post has been thought provoking for me..so adding another perspective.


History repeating itself might be a reference to a child in the family losing their closest male influence and Ishwari’s choice to support male child over female child.


When Ishwari had to raise her kids alone, she prioritised Dev’s needs over Neha’s. Neha was of course the worst impacted and she had to deal with it without much support from anyone else till she became strong and hard. Dev understood Neha, but he got that special bond with Ishwari & who doesn’t like being their mum’s priority? Ishwari also had to live with her choices and it cost her bond with her elder daughter.

Ayushman’s situation is so similar to what Dev’s was when she got widowed. she knows first hand how hard that phase is. So she is going OTT with Ayush. As luck would have it, she noticed only Dev’s hardships and not Neha’s, so she will focus on Ayush rather than Soha. Soha has both parents after all will be her rationale. That Soha is also a kid will not even feature in any logic she applies as I do feel she has mentally put Soha in ‘not mine, not my problem’ category.

Plus, in current situation there is no trade off at all for Ishwari!
Grandkids are just at that level…where u can spoil them rotten yet hand them back to parents as they are not truly your responsibility….
She might just go full bananas in this round of discrimination! Soha is not her 🩸 after all

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: gemini54

Today’s episode was a balanced one. It portrayed the different dynamics within the Dixit family.

Easwari a mom who had struggled to bring up her children and in the struggle the best she could do was give Dev her son all the advantages that she could give and in doing so ignored Neha.

I still remember a scene where Neha wanted a doll or go to school but Easwari could probably afford to send only one and she chose Dev. When we are given no choices we make the decision that makes the most sense.

Dev seeing the struggle of his mom had only one aim get them out of poverty so he can give a good life to his mom. His life revolved around his mom and only his mom until enters Sona. Here I feel the characterization of Dev is that he really cannot juggle many things he is a man driven by single purpose be it his mom, sona, suhana or now Ayush.

Sona who though has given life to Ayush her lifeline was Soha torn between the two. Even in life we have to make choices based on the most need. I can speak from experience that even with my children I give support to the one who needs it most. That does not make me a bad mother it is just a choice we make.

Ayush a child who knew only a father suddenly finding himself with a brand new family. Though they are showering him with all still he is unsure because this is not his comfort zone.

Soha the apple of the dixit family suddenly finds herself usurped by a strange boy who has come as a guest but seems to be more than that. I feel for the child.

Dev now his focus is on making Ayush comfortable and he is the main focus sound familiar this was Dev with Soha.

Easwari sees Dev in the little boy so as usual going back to what she knows best.

Sona torn between this all…

Maybe History repeats itself to give us a chance to learn from it and right the wrongs …if that is the path this show is taking it is brilliant ,

You know, current track giving me vibe of fake pregnancy track. All were happy including sona. When truth broke out, sona had to bear highest brunt n following with seperation. Now, all were happy with soha. Now with latest news again sona going to face highest brunt n which might lead to seperation process. May b this time bcoz of shub, the track might lil change n dev might mend things before complete seperation. But track is giving me similar vibe. I might b wrong.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hi what clarity in thinking and writing. Kudos to you. The attention to detail in this write up is stupendous. Way to go

Originally posted by: NotAMuggle

As far as my understanding goes,


1. Ishwari is not making the "right" efforts. She is over enthusiastic in her pampering & that is making Ayush feel suffocated. Ayush was not eager to come, he was brought here against his wish. Because Ishwari wanted her apna khoon delivered at her doorstep, right away. Yes, Sonakshi had gone with Dev to see Ayush & after hearing about his bond with Rohit, she asked to give Ayush some time. Because she was worried Ayush was not ready for such a life altering situation right after losing his father. She was worried Ayush wouldn't be able to handle it. Ishwari is turning her worries into reality. That poor boy is among a new bunch of people whom he never met before & he isn't even being given the time to adjust. Ishwari's constant hovering & over pampering is suffocating him. He is already scared of her. Sonakshi is hesitating because she's not sure how to approach him. She wanted to hug him today, but instead hugged that soft toy because she was not sure whether it was a good idea. She didn't pressure Ayush to call him Maa because she didn't want to be demanding of him. She wants to give him a chance to adjust to things at his own pace. Also, Soha needs to be taken care of because she needs to be prepared for the prospect of having Ayush as her brother. The way Ishwari is going about it, it wouldn't create any bond between them. It will create bitterness. Imagine you being the centre of attention till today but suddenly a stranger comes & you are told to share your stuffs with him. Would you like it? Suhana would grow animosity towards Ayush that way, just like Neha did for Dev. Sonakshi is trying to prevent history from repeating itself.


2. How are Sonakshi's situation & Ishwari's situation even comparable? 😳

In Ishwari's case Dev was getting married, not stop being her son. Every mother out there knows that one day her son/daughter would grow up & get married. Call it societal norm or whatever....but it is the obvious future. And most of the mothers don't go berserk over it. They prepare themselves for it & accept it gracefully. It's a regular occurrence that every mother has to go through some day or other. Nothing new or unjust.

On the other hand Sonakshi is being told the child whom she knew to be her daughter for past 10 years is not her child. This another child is! This is so different. It is not something that could be predicted & certainly not something that any mother can prepare herself for. This unfortunate thing happens in rarest of the rare cases. This is not a norm, not something every mother has to go through. Only few unfortunate woman faces this situation & it is hard for them.

You are equating two completely different situations which are not even comparable.

Try telling Ishwari that Dev is not her son at all. Rather some random girl is her daughter & then imagine how loving caring Ishwari would be to that girl. That would be a comparable situation.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Loved the additional thoughts . Especially the reference that you have written. I love the varied perspectives and maybe that is why I am back in this forum after a long hiatus. I loved the male influence part as a society we give more importance to the mother’s role but what about a fathers ?. That is why maybe we have organization like big brothers to give the children the male role model . Great thinking please keep writing

Originally posted by: nuttycleo

This post has been thought provoking for me..so adding another perspective.


History repeating itself might be a reference to a child in the family losing their closest male influence and Ishwari’s choice to support male child over female child.


When Ishwari had to raise her kids alone, she prioritised Dev’s needs over Neha’s. Neha was of course the worst impacted and she had to deal with it without much support from anyone else till she became strong and hard. Dev understood Neha, but he got that special bond with Ishwari & who doesn’t like being their mum’s priority? Ishwari also had to live with her choices and it cost her bond with her elder daughter.

Ayushman’s situation is so similar to what Dev’s was when she got widowed. she knows first hand how hard that phase is. So she is going OTT with Ayush. As luck would have it, she noticed only Dev’s hardships and not Neha’s, so she will focus on Ayush rather than Soha. Soha has both parents after all will be her rationale. That Soha is also a kid will not even feature in any logic she applies as I do feel she has mentally put Soha in ‘not mine, not my problem’ category.

Plus, in current situation there is no trade off at all for Ishwari!
Grandkids are just at that level…where u can spoil them rotten yet hand them back to parents as they are not truly your responsibility….
She might just go full bananas in this round of discrimination! Soha is not her 🩸 after all

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hari

I think your vibes maybe correct. My only thinking is after all this if people make the same mistakes is the relationship mendable? Food for thought.


Originally posted by: Hari73

You know, current track giving me vibe of fake pregnancy track. All were happy including sona. When truth broke out, sona had to bear highest brunt n following with seperation. Now, all were happy with soha. Now with latest news again sona going to face highest brunt n which might lead to seperation process. May b this time bcoz of shub, the track might lil change n dev might mend things before complete seperation. But track is giving me similar vibe. I might b wrong.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: gemini54

Hari

I think your vibes maybe correct. My only thinking is after all this if people make the same mistakes is the relationship mendable? Food for thought.


I feel their relationship will not mend but they might stay under one roof for children sake.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: gemini54

Hi what clarity in thinking and writing. Kudos to you. The attention to detail in this write up is stupendous. Way to go

Feeling flattered😆

Thank you ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Yes I hope they learn from their mistakes & eventually Ishwari and Dev love Soha as much as Ayushmann

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Posted: 4 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: havima

I think i mentioned it somewhere in your previous post too


Ayush is new dev

Soha is new neha.

Ishwari is 2× ishwari.

Your post had me in splits. smiley37smiley37

This will fetch TRPs as there is more drama this time.

I wonder if this is a finite show OR will the makers stretch this show and bring LEAP after 1 yr or so?


@TM

Excellent post by you, dear! 👍🏼

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