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Japrilforever

@Japrilforever

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#21

We both made posts addressing the same thing. Though I must admit, uve articulated n expressed things better than me. I obviously agree with everything but about Ishwari here are my views.

Her flashbacks were only to show how she didn't correct him when he did wrong things on impulse and always sided by him which is why he did what he did today. Though this is also what u said the reason she called out on Dev this time was not coz she felt that he was wrong in hitting Vicky because mami made drama, but because she realised that because she didn't correct him, things became worse for HIM. Because flashbacks were only of the times he was separated from Sona. She realised that if she doesn't tell him this time, he would be hurting yet another relationship in his life, that is with his daughter. It was ishu's realisation of where she failed as a parent, which made her son go through hell.

Just my pov, no offense.

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vibg

@vibg

Rocker

Posted: 8 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: randommusings
I would be super impressed if Devakshi dnt give in to Soha's demands. She isnt even d affected party.

Dev thinking abt Golu's future n taking a decision wud still be understandable. But no position for Vicki in company.

Y is Soha supporting Vicki...doesn't she know she stayed away from her dad bcoz of Vicki...kuch bhi dikha rahe hain

No, Soha doesn't know this. All she sees is... her dad throwing out her "handsome" chachu out of the house, as many years ago.. her mom was. And then, her dad slapping her chachu for playing with her. Kids understand things they see, not what they can't see!

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randomramblings

@randomramblings

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Posted: 8 years ago

#23

I really stopped caring of dev is made to go through or sona or ishwari say. The take home point for me here is how easily children tend to form strong opinions and how it affects their life.

Asha for once did right job in Questioning sona about her behaviour. Soha needs attention of both her parents. She is somebody who easily falls for attention. Initially she could not fully accept dev but when she saw that he placed her above everything immediately she accepted him. Today neither of her parents are there for her and Vicky is the only one filling the void.

Same applies to golu, earlier his dad wad never there for him. It was always his bigcha and hence the adulation and the bind. Today he is able to get the attention of his dad, so his bigcha has lost his charm.

Its as simple as this, no matter how many people live or stay with ur kid, what they need the mist us the time of their parents. If they don't get it, then blame urself for the way they turnout in life. The rest is all drama factor of television story.

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lavanya

@dlavanya

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 8 years ago

#24

My pov is that
If someone wrongs you and you wrong them ( infront of the kids)- it doesnt make it right.

Today dev was wrong (irrespective of whether vicky really changed or not). He was impulsive and always had anger issues - due to which his life pretty much got ruined 7 yrs ago. He needs to start understanding before acting impulsively in future.

I just hope sona and dev dont let soha dictate terms and they start acting as responsible parents.

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astrix90

@astrix90

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: preethik
@ astrix not the family but the cvs have to watch the preleap episodes.

Not seen the episode but after reading the updates my blood boils. This is kind of like the infertility track where they made it all about ish & here too it's all about poor Vicky!

First dev should stop consulting with ish. Very rarely has she given unbiased advice. She always twists the truth to suit her.

Unfortunately she is still the only person who manages to get through to him. I mean she said something random a couple of episodes back and Dev randomly got over his paranoia and insecurity. If that's not bad writing I dunno what is 😆

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lavanya

@dlavanya

Dazzler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: cscs

I dnt want anyone to influence Dev's decision. He should be firm, but i doubt it will happen, specially when it comes to Soha. :(

N Soha n golu dnt know na why Dev is angry on Vicky n thes young children cannot be told the real reason also. :/

Dev and sona should bring back vicky just for golus sake and giving him a last chance.
This time may be vicky can join sonas company as an intern and slowly climb up the ladder.

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Japrilforever

@Japrilforever

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: dlavanya

Dev and sona should bring back vicky just for golus sake and giving him a last chance.
This time may be vicky can join sonas company as an intern and slowly climb up the ladder.

This is 100 percent Vicky's plan to get back into Dixit house. When he met Elena the next day, he just wanted to know whether he still has a chance of coming back. He knows now that everyone is hopeful that he will come on the right path, and he's pretending to do just that,and its evident from the episodes that the family is softening towards him because they believe he has changed.

Yeah, Dev will bring him back only n only for Golu, but Vicky is not gonna change. He will sabotage the business fr sure, or at least try to. And then hopefully the whole family realises and admits their mistakes.

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astrix90

@astrix90

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: lumos_31
We both made posts addressing the same thing. Though I must admit, uve articulated n expressed things better than me. I obviously agree with everything but about Ishwari here are my views.
Her flashbacks were only to show how she didn't correct him when he did wrong things on impulse and always sided by him which is why he did what he did today. Though this is also what u said the reason she called out on Dev this time was not coz she felt that he was wrong in hitting Vicky because mami made drama, but because she realised that because she didn't correct him, things became worse for HIM. Because flashbacks were only of the times he was separated from Sona. She realised that if she doesn't tell him this time, he would be hurting yet another relationship in his life, that is with his daughter. It was ishu's realisation of where she failed as a parent, which made her son go through hell.
Just my pov, no offense.

Well the problem is that mami pointed out how no one ever dares to point out Dev's flaws and how he manages to get away with everything while her poor son is punished. Then Ishwari has an epiphany about a couple of instances where Dev was impulsive and his anger got the better of him. Then she remembers mamaji's advice about not hesitating to point out when Dev is in the wrong and she gains the courage with great difficulty to spell it out to him. I have a lot of issues with this sequence of events and I will try to point it out-

A. Pre leap Ishwari was never scared to stand up to Dev. She did everything from ranting to emotional blackmail to hunger strike to having sleeping pills to bulldoze her way through and he always danced to her tunes. And Neha constantly fought with Dev without fail. So to say Ishwari was always hesitant to correct his mistakes or he never listened to anyone and did what he wanted is clear distortion of facts by mami and Ishwari herself 😆

B. She never corrected Dev when he was obviously wrong cos it suited her purpose. She din care about Bijoy getting slapped cos she was more depressed about the fact that her son gave money to his wife behind her back. Hell she emotionally blackmailed him into doing wrong things even when he took the right decisions. Getting Vicky a higher position at office, calling Asha aunty, forcing Sona to take infertility treatment- the list is endless. So why is everything about Dev being at fault and Ishwari failing to correct him as a mom? She sided him cos it suited her purpose. She never sided him when she wanted him to do her bidding. So the logic behind her realisation and subsequent declaration is totally messed up IMO.

Edited by astrix90 - 8 years ago

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astrix90

@astrix90

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: dlavanya
My pov is that
If someone wrongs you and you wrong them ( infront of the kids)- it doesnt make it right.

Today dev was wrong (irrespective of whether vicky really changed or not). He was impulsive and always had anger issues - due to which his life pretty much got ruined 7 yrs ago. He needs to start understanding before acting impulsively in future.

I just hope sona and dev dont let soha dictate terms and they start acting as responsible parents.

Correct. But then the problem is with the reaction and not the act itself. So what if Vicky changed? Why should Dev forgive him? For all that Vicky has done, a slap is nothing really. And there is a way to tell Dev that he should control his temper in front of kids. But then more than fearing the impact it will have on kids, all I saw was the family victimizing Vicky and making Dev into a ruthless villain. I din see half the shock or reaction to the eviction truth. I din see so much disgust over Vicky stealing the software. So one impulsive slap makes Dev the villain and absolves Vicky of all his crimes? Vicky sent goons to beat up Dev and almost had him killed yet mami has the audacity to act entitled about a slap? And she lists out Dev's mistakes which is the most ironic cos half of them were perpetrated by her and it only resulted in his life getting ruined. I don't remember seeing Dev plotting or ruining mami's family. In fact they got a free pass to the extent that they could go around calling Sona names though technically she was the owner's wife. And today she made it look like both Dev and Vicky are the same and if Dev can be forgiven, Vicky should be too and the silence of everyone else in the family kinda validated her opinion. And don't even get me started on Ishwari's reaction. To cut the long story short, this family doesn't react for things as huge as evicting a family or stealing software and plotting to ruin a company. But slapping the same person is a bigger crime and that person deserves to be punished 😆

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Japrilforever

@Japrilforever

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: astrix90

Well the problem is that mami pointed out how no one ever dares to point out Dev's flaws and how he manages to get away with everything while her poor son is punished. Then Ishwari has an epiphany about a couple of instances where Dev was impulsive and his anger got the better of him. Then she remembers mamaji's advice about not hesitating to point out when Dev is in the wrong and she gains the courage with great difficulty to spell it out to him. I have a lot of issues with this sequence of events and I will try to point it out-
A. Pre leap Ishwari was never scared to stand up to Dev. She did everything from ranting to emotional blackmail to hunger strike to having sleeping pills to bulldoze her way through and he always danced to get tunes. And Neha constantly fought with Dev without fail. So to say Ishwari was always hesitant to correct his mistakes or he never listened to anyone and did what he wanted is clear distortion of facts by mami and Ishwari herself 😆

B. She never corrected Dev when he was obviously wrong cos it suited her purpose. She din care about Bijoy getting slapped cos she was more depressed about the fact that her son gave money to his wife behind her back. Hell she emotionally blackmailed him into doing wrong things even when he took the right decisions. Getting Vicky a higher position, calling Asha aunty, forcing Sona to take infertility treatment- the list is endless. So why is everything about Dev being at fault and Ishwari failing to correct him as a mom? She sided him cos it suited her purpose. She never sided him when she wanted him to do her bidding. So the logic behind her realisation and subsequent declaration is totally messed up IMO.

Nope, I think u didn't get my point. I agree with whatever u said above about Ishwari doing stuff and manipulating Dev's psyche for her benefit but my point was today she did it because she was genuinely concerned about Dev's relationship with his daughter. She said, tu usse 7 saal door raha hai, Tere uspe koi sanskaar nahi hai, so imo, it was never really about Ishwari failing to correct him as a mom only. It was about the consequences of her not correcting or ignoring his impulsive acts which were indeed detrimental to his relationships with ppl who matter in his life. Because Dev has always looked up to his mother and has sought her guidance. It was her redemption as a failed parent, imo.

Whatever preleap ishu did, was for her benefit. If she reprimanded him, emotionally blackmailed him it was for something that she wanted for herself. She never ever thought about Dev. What was different this time was that she thought about Dev and the consequences of his hitting Vicky in front of his daughter on his relationship with his daughter. And her flashback with mamaji was reinforcing this, that on knowing that her son is wrong she never point it out because of her own selfish love for her son. And that convo with mamaji, he had said that this time if u don't interfere/point out Dev's mistake he will be separated from Sona again.

I don't know whether I could put my point across, but that's the best I could do...

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