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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: mehraan



Its still long.😆..but i read its in fb!!..Can u paste it dear😆

Kya sleek biceps hai btw..😳
Sona needs to swing on those😆



Naah this is not the pic the one Charu was talking about was old He hasnt got any hair cut :(
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sjain



Naah this is not the pic the one Charu was talking about was old He hasnt got any hair cut :(


Hahahah...Bahana chahiye Shaheer ko dekhne ka😆

Waise Its a mast pic ...I dont get the point of him tyimg a pony...Let it b open jus like this!


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Posted: 8 years ago
Yeah that was an old pic :(
Sorry :/
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Posted: 8 years ago
Thank you for your well explained post. Neither judgemental nor finding excuses.

Originally posted by: areeba_blossom


Shaavi, I want to directly address our frustration with Sonakshi. I think you yourself realize that it's a bit exaggerated but I think I know the reason why. Everyday you watch the show and your spent hours thinking about each characters' actions. With so many parallel layers in this season, it's more fun to think about the characters in this regard because there is always something you can find hidden in between the lines but in doing so, you yourself are becoming that character for the moment and as an individual, you perhaps won't be making much of the choices that Sonakshi is making. Or perhaps despite a decently paced track, the reactions you are expecting are taking much more time to materialize.


Dev Dixit is an all-rounded character. He is a good boss, a smart businessman, a caring son, a rebellious child in himself, a guilt-ridden man, a scorned lover, a desperate father. We see Dev's flaws and we see Dev's insecurities. We are very accepting of that because we as a society see men as "individuals". When it comes to women though, we are more critical then we should be. Dev demeanor switches back and forth but we find the reasons for it's causes but when it comes to Sonakshi, where do the reasons go? Or why are those reasons phrased to be highly critical?

Sonakshi is not just a daughter, woman, mother, businesswoman and a doctor. She is also an individual. Being a woman means to abide by rules. Weather those rules are getting married when your family wants you to, saying yes to other's decisions to be a self-sacrificing woman and keep a happy house or not stepping out of boundaries by making only girl friends instead of boy/guy friends. Being a woman is a role all of us play. Some of ours' internalized misogyny allows us to settle well into a being a woman more easily then being an individual and some ours don't.

Personally, I am good at balancing a role of being a woman or girl when in between members of my own society but I also don't allow the individuality inside me to take a step back. Before being a gender, I am a human being and our society is okay accepting men to be humans but god forbid a girl or woman has self-destructive flaws.

Sonakshi is a great mother. She makes a point to spent time with her daughter while also earning for her and providing her for the best. We glamorize motherhood to such an extent that anything we see not up to par by society's standards, we have to object at that mother. Soha has not been neglected ever. Instead she's been at her happiest with her mother and now her father. She is also a scorned and jilted lover who hoped and pinned for her lover to follow-up with her but he didn't. Yes, she looked up at a wrong ideal in a different setting but is that so wrong? You view every situation through a lens that you are comfortable with. She is a great daughter who fulfills her father's demands. She grew up close to him and he is been an epitome of perfection to her as a father for a very long period of time. Of course his flaws and insecurities making decisions for her in past seven years wouldn't be visible to her when she herself only agreed to marry Dev with a fear of losing him in seconds the next time a fight breaks. She is a great businesswoman and a doctor that she outs her clients and patients needs wants as her first concern. She is a woman who struggled just as much as Dev did because this society does not hand woman a job as easily as it does to a man.

Dev doesn't possess a typical or should I say regular misogynist man's sense of entitlement but that is nothing to applaud. A man acting decent to a woman is not applaud-worthy. It's normal. It should be normal if we collectively see that as not normal. Dev may not possess that sense of entitlement but he still is in possession of a regressive mentality where he gloried the meaning of love and it's expectations from Sonakshi, simultaneously expecting her to understand that and when she doesn't, generalize a gender by saying "girls are complicated."

Sonakshi hiding Khatri's appearance from Dev may complicate a simple matter between them but then it is also not Dev's secret that she should be the one to tell him. It is Ishwari's secret and with the place she is now at the Dixit house, she needs to disclose this to the matriarch of household first before allowing Dev to be in on the secret.

I think the reason this thread gets a rep for being pro-Dev or tea Dev isn't because of us analyzing Dev's actions. It's because we seldom give a pass at Sonakshi's actions despite understanding the reasons that push her at brink of a cliff.

I love Sonkashi's character. For the first time I am not just looking at a an all rounded man but also an all-rounded woman standing next to him who knows her worth despite loving that man to bits.


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: areeba_blossom




Sonakshi hiding Khatri's appearance from Dev may complicate a simple matter between them but then it is also not Dev's secret that she should be the one to tell him. It is Ishwari's secret and with the place she is now at the Dixit house, she needs to disclose this to the matriarch of household first before allowing Dev to be in on the secret.



Thanks Areeba. Your post is very insightful and it is a pleasure to read it. I totally agree with most of what you have said except for the above part. Here I beg to disagree. I understand that she cannot disclose it to Dev as it has something to do with the matriarch and is waiting to let her know first. But is it necessary to let Jatin know about it, discuss to great lengths about it as he is in no way related to that above said "matriarch". He might be Sonakshi's friend, but that doesn't make it right for her to discuss the private affairs of Ishwari with a person who has never even seen her in real. All he knows about Ishwari at this time is what Sonakshi has told him. What information can Jatin give regarding Khatri or his relationship with anyone in IN. Nothing. How would she feel if Dev went to Bunty or the police friend shown earlier and spies on somebody who is annoying her family member without telling her. It is a matter of privacy. If she had kept it to herself and was acting only by herself, I would have agreed with you. But there is no need for her to discuss this matter in such detail with Jatin. He is no one to Ishwari or Dev.

Jatin's intentions might be good, but it does not make what she is doing with Jatin right. Sorry, somehow I am not able to accept this. Lets agree to disagree on this point.😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
@ Lakshmi @ grace
arey CVs sona ka dress change kana bhool gaye... warna same day soha thik bhi hogayi... ? Dev changed 3-4 shirts... also soha got cured in 2 days !
How many times sona meets jatin is not a direct measurement of how much sona loves soha.. or if she is a good mother or not. Jathin is he business partner. they could be discussing some business too ..khatri had not enter scene by then.

But anyways ..in todays episode... Sona bahar gayi... so why did Dev Dixit (ideal father) decide to following/stalking her instead of being at home incase his daughter needs something while her mother is outside roaming around with her best fiend ?. is it that important for him to know if sona is having an affair or meeting Jatin than staying home incase soha needs him ? sochne waali baat hai...

How long did sona and Dev date and stayed together -- 6 months ?
Sona had known jatin since childhood and he has been a big support duing the last 7 yrs for her and her family - given that Dev and sona are divorced and Dev says he hates her and has moved on ... willing to show 100s of messages from his ex gf that they cant live with out him... why should sona give more importance to Dev and ignore Jatin ? atleast she is not playing any game indicating to Jatin that she and him can be together in future... they are pretty clear on what their relationship is. Dev did not refrain from openly flirting with random women even after he got to know about soha (summer camp episodes)

last but not the least. i really dont appreciate sona's "I am bahu" , or trying to be ishwari's saviour and hiding the truth from dev etc - i think CVs ingeneral messed up the sequence etc in this week's episodes. hopefully the episodes will start to make sense from next week once the cast is back to shoot

Edited by dlavanya - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

I am glad its Wednesday. Happy Hump day fellow KRPKABians! Two more days and we should have our show back to its normal pace. I mean Tuesday seemed like a whole week packed into one and today was all over the place. I still want to talk about some of the key bits. However, before I do that, I'd like to say something. We all have our own views on Jatin, Sona, Dev, Ishwari, Asha, Bijoy and so one and so forth. We may never be able to change the other person's views to align with ours. The show isn't as linear and black & white for us to label the characters as easily as we would like to. There are no absolute right and wrong

I also wish we could perhaps have a few days off if the cast isn't available. After all they have a life too. Show us some old episodes... or have Asha read some of the lovely stories people write here...

With that said, 'Ye meri biwi nahi hai' and 'Main inki biwi nahi hoon' - We know! And that is why Sona has to call herself the bahu of Dixits to introduce herself to an old dangerous looking man. And that is why Dev has to call Sona a liar to stop her from hurting the lover in him because he has no other haq on her. He knows calling her a liar will stop her from doing whatever makes her look like a liar. Guess what Dev, you became a Bose in Bose House and she became a Dixit in IN! You don't know it mister; this non-biwi of yours who subconsciously sets the menu to your palate is on a very dangerous mission. I would say, up your stalking Fella! I am not going to be very popular for saying this. But I love Dev so I will say it... I am so happy to see his stalking is back. Jatin and Sona don't know what they are getting themselves into and Dev Dixit has enough brahmastras in his kitty to finish off the Khatris. I can see why Sona has had to hide this from Dev. The only person who can give her all the information is away and no one else seems to know anything about this strange man. And a mere mention of him had Dev up in arms which should tell Sona that Khatri really is dangerous. She has however chosen an unexpected route. We will let her make a right Neha/5 crore type mess of it.

Ma-beta.. err not Ish-Dev.. I am talking about Elena-Golu (PS: I looked up the meaning of the name Elena. It means a bright shining light. Which is pretty much what Raunak also means!). So, Elena and Golu seem to be on a mission to make Devakshi reflect. I totally loved their scenes. The one that stood out was Sona "defending" *her* lover by saying he took to multiple girlfriends like any man would do. I mean, come on wifey. We know it hurt when you saw Shruti in that hotel lobby. We know you have no haq left and yet we saw a school girl response to the situation that awards function night. So what does Sona in her typical Sona style do... wraps up her Dev and defends him to herself saying, "He just ended up doing those silly things like men do".

Of course, farak nahi padta. Liars these two

Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown - Its hard work being THE DEV DIXIT. It's harder work being MRS DEV DIXIT. Its amazing how Dev has stopped being The Dev he used to be but still keeps close tabs on finances and every time dhobi pachadoes Vicky for these tucchi acts. Vicky wants the crown but doesn't realise how hard it is to carry that crown. And in contrast you have Sona, who as we saw today, has become Dev 1.0 but doesn't need any labels and is happy to defend her Dixit family.

What I liked in particular was, while Sona was busy playing Dev 1.0... Dev was sitting and reflecting with Elena, much like Sona 1.0!!!!

The kitchen scene yesterday was another beauty. Sona said all those things to Dev that she has been telling herself all these years. We can manage alright without you. Oh Sona... No wonder Dev has had to leave Soha behind and run after you. I wish he either stayed there longer or just stayed back with his daughter.

Devakshi, who tujhme, tujh se zyada hai!

Edited by thedramaqueen - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
This is one of the writers whose analysis I like. Thought of sharing with everyone. --
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Areeba. Your post is very insightful and it raises a lot of good points. But I don't know if I agree with the generalization. Its kind of what I was saying to Sam. Just because internalized misogyny and male privilege exists and does color our actions, it doesn't mean that it is always the most predominant reason for someone acting a particular way. I think we all need to be cognizant of how patriarchy affects our choices and actions but we also need to be careful to assume that it is a predominant cause. Just because two people act the same way doesn't mean the motivation is the same.


On a personal note, I would classify myself as a feminist. And everything you've said here, I have actually argued in favor of in other circumstances. For example, there was a show called Bones, where the fandom very much like this ended up having extensive debates between the ML and the FL. At that point I was very shocked how people could be so blindly biased towards the male lead. The male lead would be given a pass for his behavior while the same behavior in the female lead would be crucified. It drove me crazy. It was actually the experience that led me to read a lot more about feminism and understand internalized misogyny in our culture. I grew up in Canada, where feminism is a generally considered a positive word. My prime minister proudly considers himself a feminist. So it was a bit of learning experience for me to understand that it didn't necessarily have the same meaning in other places in the world (particularly America).


Undeniably there is a huge subset of the world that hasn't recognized their internalized misogyny. But in having these discussions, it also helped me realize that sometimes a feminist perspective can be biased. Personally, this is where modern feminism gets into bit of a trouble because it doesn't always take into account a significant number of variables, other than sexism, that impact people's lives and actions.


For example, is it fair to disregard the struggles of someone coming from an underprivileged situation just because that person is a male? Sona likely had to deal with some struggles as a woman in the professional sense. But as a favored child in a middle class family she also had benefits that Dev did not enjoy. She had the benefit of an educated sibling and a wealthy best friend investing in her business. How do we determine whether male privilege outweighs financial and familial advantages? To minimize Dev's struggles purely because he's a male leans towards reverse discrimination which isn't true feminism, imo.


In the same note, a knee jerk reaction to someone seeing Sona unfavourably as an internalized misogyny, in my view, glosses over the individuality of both Sona and the viewer. I believe, everyone has characteristics that some people will find acceptable and others won't. And it usually has less to do with the individual characteristics and more to do with the person judging those characteristics.


I know from my past experiences that I struggle with self righteous characters. This was the same issue I had with the male lead on Bones. If anything I find Sona more likable than that male lead (even though he was supposed to be the most moral man on TV). Because for me an essential part of morality is knowing that you are fallible. If I can't contemplate the fact that I could be wrong, how can I be sure that I am correct? So when someone is presented as a moral stalwart, I need to see a recognition of fallibility for me to respect that character's decisions. In this story I end up gravitating more towards Dev because he doesn't claim to be perfect. But the moment a character starts to define themselves as perfect, their flaws become glaringly obvious to me.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@DQ what an awesome post 👏

Will come back for more...

PS:I simply loved Dev's expressions today.. especially when he entered his home ..

And the little munchkins were too cute...so many speculations about Ishwari, waiting for the suspense to unfold!

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