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Posted: 8 years ago
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@BOLD That's exactly what I have been saying for so long. This is the reason I am not being able to believe Dev. Forget past scenes, even if Soha by chance had walked in when Dev was twisting Sonakshi's arm and was threatening that if he can't spend time with his daughter, she can't either, and she was telling him to let go, what conclusion Soha would have drawn?

If Asha had walked in who is a staunch Dev supporter, what conclusion she'd have drawn? Would she think that's romance and leave?

If Vicky behaved like that with Elena, would we consider that romantic?

If Dev saw Neha's husband treating Neha that way and even if Neha is fighting back, will he think that's an acceptable behaviour?

Originally posted by: imnowhere

@Tia.0 I am aware that the makers never wanted Dev to be a 'hero'. They wanted a human being with vice and virtues.And thats how he was in season 1. But in season 2 he is changed. Had he justified at least the 4th and 6th point, rest all could have been maaf karofied.But Alas! it was not done.
Now imagine, if Sona had told Soha about the wrongs that Dev has done to her post landing in Delhi till date, Dev ki kya izzat reh jaati apni beti ki nazron mein?
I do agree that Sona also is to blame for their state today, but when I try to balance their mistakes on a scale, Sona is just thrown in the air😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Very nice post ,You know we always blame ishwari for her pyschogiri/ insecurities but its actually dev fault .Dev babu is not at all ideal son , because he never was honest with his mother .Honesty and truth between relationship is very much important .Koi rista nahi chal Sakta. 😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with you on the 'Dev,the bf/husband' part but not as the son.Dev has done whatever he can for his mother Ishwari.When he was a bf he was even willing to leave Sona for his mother and afterwards he slapped his wife's father for his mother.What else can he do? He told Sona to get lost from his house..
Ishwari's happiness is only when Dev lives with her and not with any other female.Ishwari's insecurities are about Dev and her relationship because she thinks that another female can come and make him distance his relationship with her.This is totally an issue with Ishwari, she doesn't trust her son.This isn't Dev's fault as per me.

Just tell me, how can one understand the insecurities of the other person so clearly? He was blind in her love, he couldn't see it.And this happens even in real life.If my mother has any insecurity, first of all I wouldn't know about it and wouldn't even think about such a thing ... but even if I know then I can't judge it and understand it since she is my mother.Even though a third person can know, it's really difficult to judge and analyse and help that person as a daughter.

Moreover Dev has his own life as well.He can't live with his mother life long.According to Ishwari he must not love anyone else but her.This is how she will be satisfied.But do you expect Dev to live alone life long and keep on making compromises for his mother?

I think the fault is in Ishwari as a mother rather than in Dev as a son.She has no work.As it is said, 'An idle mind is the Devil's workshop' This is what is happening with Ishwari.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tia.0

<font size="3" color="#663399">Everyone of them are all valid questions. In real life, none of these actions can be justified. But here Dev is the hero so he is justified as poor, sweet, innocent baby who also wants to be a father and take responsibility of a child.</font>


<font size="3" color="#663399">The only thing that explains Dev's behaviour is that when he falls in love, he gets obsessed with that person. He bends over backwards for them, gets desperate to be in their presence all the times, gets jealous and possessive, can't say no to them etc. But this is also how some two years old behave with a new toy.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">The problem is that human being is not a toy.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">When Dev fell in love with Sona, he practically forced Sonakshi on Ishwari for everything and how he is doing the same with Soha. The difference is that Ishwari started resenting Sonakshi from then onwards because Dev never created any expectations in her that one day, he will be sharing his life with someone else. But Soha is her own blood so she can't say anything without revealing her true self.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">Before Sonakshi, Dev and Ishwari had such a clingy and mutually exclusive relationship that Sonakshi became a third wheel. Dev didn't have any friends, any hobby, any passion or any person who could take his focus away from Ishwari.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">That was never a healthy relationship.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">Dev as a boyfriend was sweet but not dependable since his strings were always in Ishwari's hands.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">After marriage, the strings got tighter. Again, the responsibility was Dev's to set expectations in both mother and wife and create a separate but clear space for each where they don't constantly step in each other's area. But he let his mother take over even his marital relationship.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">Don't get me wrong, Sonakshi shares blames for that too. But her fear was that if Dev can dump her because his mother said so and marry her only when his mother agreed, she needs to keep his mother happy to have a happy married life.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">But Dev did not have that restriction or fear. He should have make sure that no one (not only the neighbours or Ranveer) can insult and call his wife names under his roof. Just like he didn't tolerate slightest insults to his mother, he should have had the same respect for his wife. This was his house she was feeling like an outsider. That was his failure as a husband to fail to make her feel as a cherished member of his family. But for him, she was not family.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">However post break up he again refused to take any blame on him even today and still blaming Sonakshi. Oh he pretends to be so nice and decent person in front of Soha. But people usually speak their true feelings in private and that's where he keeps blaming Sonakshi for his and his mother's faults/actions. Yet he doesn't blame his mother at all.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">So yes, double standard and chauvinism are very much part of his personality. But then when a regressive lady like Ishwari raises a boy with all privileges compared to her daughters and always pass on the blame to others, how else will he turn out? Of course equality will seem oppression to him.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">Now he is a father of a daughter. So of course the rules will change because Dixits deserve privileges. Everyone else has to adjust to them. That's the policy he followed for Neha too.</font>

<font size="3" color="#663399">Funny isn't it that he expected Neha to leave her husband and blamed Ranveer for not supporting Neha when he blamed Sonakshi despite him never supporting her?</font>



Love the article and totally agree with you but i want to add is only bc the way he raise. He never think abt anyone except for himself and the person who raise him. Your mother plays an inportant part on your upbringing. He know in his heart that his wife is right most of tge time (even though shonakshi also make some mistakes in the past) but again when a girl comes to a new family her biggest support is always her hisband. Sonakshi never had it and again right now the way they are portraying Dev's character is not what we want to see in a hero. BUT no one is perfect and I wish CVs justify the serial by making him realise what he did or doing is wrong and everyone relationship has its own place and space.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: someonelikeyou-

I agree with you on the 'Dev,the bf/husband' part but not as the son.Dev has done whatever he can for his mother Ishwari.When he was a bf he was even willing to leave Sona for his mother and afterwards he slapped his wife's father for his mother.What else can he do? He told Sona to get lost from his house..

Ishwari's happiness is only when Dev lives with her and not with any other female.Ishwari's insecurities are about Dev and her relationship because she thinks that another female can come and make him distance his relationship with her.This is totally an issue with Ishwari, she doesn't trust her son.This isn't Dev's fault as per me.

Just tell me, how can one understand the insecurities of the other person so clearly? He was blind in her love, he couldn't see it.And this happens even in real life.If my mother has any insecurity, first of all I wouldn't know about it and wouldn't even think about such a thing ... but even if I know then I can't judge it and understand it since she is my mother.Even though a third person can know, it's really difficult to judge and analyse and help that person as a daughter.

Moreover Dev has his own life as well.He can't live with his mother life long.According to Ishwari he must not love anyone else but her.This is how she will be satisfied.But do you expect Dev to live alone life long and keep on making compromises for his mother?

I think the fault is in Ishwari as a mother rather than in Dev as a son.She has no work.As it is said, 'An idle mind is the Devil's workshop' This is what is happening with Ishwari.




Sorry, couldn't agree with you.The duties of a son doesn't end by hiring a dietitian for your mother or just by obeying her orders. If your cannot read your mother's silence or her strange behaviour you are not the best son. If your mother wants you to act in a certain way, it is your duty to find out why she wants you to do that.
When Ishwari was hospitalized due to overdose of sleeping pills, Dev instantly broke off with Sona. But did he ever ask her later, what she disliked in Sona? Did he ever ask what she expected from Sona? While lying about the fake pregnancy did he spare a thought on what will be the impact of this drama on his mom?
Ishwari's expressions are so sharp that even the dumbest person can read that there is a turmoil inside her? Dev is her own son.
If he thinks the luxurious life of Ishwari mansion is enough to keep his mother happy, then it is definitely his fault.
You don't need to judge your mother, just make an attempt to understand her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Excellent post 👏
I also have these same questions from Dev😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Excellent post with great points.

All of the characters with the exception of gkb, ish & Vicky have been somewhat butchered. Dev is the most.

I feel dev has failed most relationships except as a boyfriend & father. In my opinion he failed badly as a son & husband. He never understood his mom & even when he did never confronted her. He kept feeding her insecurities which led to his failed marriage.

Sona was to blame too but not as much as ish & more than ish it was dev.

The cvs have left us with a lot of questions
Are they still married?
Did he ever look for the boses?
Why does he continue to blame sona & exonerate his mom ?
Will he ever the know the various schemes run by the tripathis?
Questions from S1 which have been just brushed aside!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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excellent questions and valid points! but thats the difference in reel and real life.. in real life, man like Dev would not be considered a hero, but a selfish, rotten, abusive bad guy 😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Actually there seems to be no point in asking these questions. I am surprised that the CVs want to show that Dev loves Sonakshi but in all these years has never tried to analyse or find out what wrong with their relationship.
He is shown to be a successful businessman-- how do you become successful if you do not have the ability to figure out who is or has been harming you. He knows Vicky is capable of fraud, he knows that Vicky threw out Boses from their home, how come he has never asked or questioned Vicky at all?
Ok he is obsessed with his mama... but Vicky? Why is he forgiven again and again?
As I have said before, Dev's character makes no sense. And someone should tell the CVs that his stalker syndrome and his stupidity and his so called love for his daughter does not make him endearing.
He comes across as a weak character and it becomes hard to justify why Sona would want to be with him again.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: imnowhere

With this topic I think I will be bashed wholeheartedly and I am ready for it. In this duration of 284 episodes and a time span of 8 years there is nothing more of Dev that I can expect to see.🤓

Dev, the son - Not at all an ideal son. Agreed he used to be very close to his mother, but he never really understood her - her happiness, her insecurities.

Dev, the boyfriend/husband - This is absolutely the worst role he has played. Can't agree more with Jatin, Dev can play only one role at a time. He broke off the relationship the first time in the blink of an eye without even thinking of clearing his mother's insecurities. Sona has always fallen prey to so called Dev ki Deewangee' even leading to a broken engagement. If he was so confused😕 why did he sing the break up song at the first place? Post marriage Ishwari maata's insecurities were already high and he added fuel to the fire by lying about the fake pregnancy. So far he could be forgiven considering a victim of circumstances. But what happened thereafter cannot be justified.

1. Dev never apologized for the false allegations put against Mr. Bose in the Dixit house nor did he confront his family for doing so.

Question to Dev: Why?

2. It was Ishwari who wanted them to get separated (from the house, which only Ishwari and the audience know) When Dev came to know of it he didn't question it.

Question to Dev: How do you still blame Sona for your separation?

3. When Dev threw Sona at Ish during the argument it was an accident, rather his fault.

Question to Dev: Why did you snap back at Sona asking her to stay away from your mother? It was you who asked Sona to get out and yet you blame her for leaving you?

4. Dev was well informed of the Boses being thrown out of their house, being homeless.

Question to Dev: If you were so innocent, why didn't you justify yourself later and give them their house back?

5. Office on fire, instead of being ashamed of his actions Dev is furious at Sonakshi for being able escape.

Question to Dev: Have you lost your mind?

6. Dev has no respect for Sona for giving birth to his child. Is this the least to expect from a father who claims to love his daughter more than anyone else in this world? For a woman who had just 7% chances of conceiving, pregnancy period would not have been easy. And when you don't have your better half by your side and an additional burden of financial crisis, things become even difficult. Despite this Sona has raised Soha single handedly without inculcating any bad conception about her father.

Question to Dev: Can you really not be thankful enough for this? Do you still remember that you called her barren?

7. Dev came to know that he could not learn about his child for the last 6 years because of his mother. Yet he blames Sonakshi for hiding the truth.

Question to Dev: Tell me Dev, why would a woman, who has been warned not to try to have any relation with you, die running after you, to let you know about the child? With the humiliation she has received, she was not even sure whether you would accept the child?

8. The life of a child begins from the womb and both of the parents are equally responsible for the child's birth. Both obviously know if they can expect the inception and they don't need anyone else to point it out.

Question to Dev: How were you so oblivious Dev, and how is it that these thoughts never crossed your mind for the past 7 years?

Finally, I would like to know the solid grounds of your hatred for Sonakshi over the last 7 years? Can you please answer, Dev?

Ask these questions to yourself Dev, and you will receive eternal bliss😉


Enough of my bakbak, if any of you think you have read his heart and brains, you can reply on his behalf.😃

Cheers!


Dev to be ideal son doesn't need to match your and my idea of ideal son..only Ishwari can say that, and many times she said " her son is her pride" ..so for her he is ideal son.
Rest all you said that is Dev for you in 4- 5 months of his married life ..
But how fair is it to expect from a person like dev who was never taught to think of his own happiness but just to fulfill his family responsibilities for good 28 yrs and about whom Sonakshi knows that he not will think a second when it comes to his mom ( she got clear idea after first breakup)to change and take stand infront of his mother in a span of just 4-5 months...


I am not blaming Sonakshi either..but it's just unfortunate, because the kind of situations, insecurities( (ishwari),baggages (neha)and infertility of bride comes in any newly wed couples half of the couples may drift apart irrespective of them being good , mature, responsible...Dev was never a bad guy ..if he was Sonakshi wouldnt even think of bringing him into her daughters life ..for her dev failed to be a good husband but not as person..as no Motherr want a bad guy in her daughters life...


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