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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rock&roll



Thanks Rock & roll for your reply. To summarise my comments to all what you have wrote is , what i wanted to convey to those who are subjected to emotional abuses is that, they can come out of that suffering to some level, if they try to understand the core nature of their partner. if that person seems to be good at heart and the abuses happen only occasionally, then isn't it wise to have a retrospection on what causes him to behave so and try avoiding such situations or help him to come out of that frustration. That is how it worked or works for me. And as you said, it may not work for all. But, better to give it a try than being walking zombies.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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In that case who are Cvs to decide how god will act?
Its CVs who decided how god will act
And here fans decided how god will act

Usme kya difference hai?
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Posted: 8 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: ..natasha..

In that case who are Cvs to decide how god will act?

Its CVs who decided how god will act
And here fans decided how god will act

Usme kya difference hai?


For the show CVs are the GOD and see how beautifully they are performing that role - will of Cvs is taken as a will of GOD.

P.S - personally, I don't know about GOD so don't believe in it - but definitely believe in the prowess of CVs - Kya quick reaction diya to the prayer of an evil😛😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: jigsaw1234

@grace4317, you make a few good points but some questions glaringly obvious remain unanswered.

I as a viewer have never taken exception to Ishwari's love for her son or Bijoy's protectiveness to his daughter. Only yesterday my 17 year old daughter came home from school and declared she is till a child and wants a snack and glass of milk when she walks in! Point is, children need it and it is a parents job. When does one stop being a parent? Never!

As an adult in society though, Ishwari is rather unique and disappointing. She had a daughter at home who was separated from her husband, so there was no lack of first hand experience, still she chose to behave the way she did with Sona.

Dev, now, is a son first and there is nothing wrong with that. Until the pregnancy drama started, most things portrayed in Dev's and Sona's life were quite normal. Who doesn't have arguments and misunderstandings.

Dev first serious mistake was not in hiding the report but prolonging the inevitable. That caused a huge rift and at that point it was his failure to acknowledge what a tough spot he has put Sona in. She forgave him easily but did his mother forgive Sona or Dev? Love should teach us something right? If his mother's love taught him to accept her disappointment and find solutions how did he make it up to the Boses? What hurts as a mother, as a girl brought up equally to her brother in this world is even today when a girl gets married, the girl's family becomes nobody? And it absolutely hurts if there are women in this forum who turn a blind eye to this. Dev was even willing to put Riya's life in jeopardy? How naive is he? In my book that is his first grave mistake.

Dev investing money in Saurabh's business, his family and his in-laws arguing and Sona doing everything to return is all part of living. Dev and Sona arguing in their bedroom and again in their living room is all fine. I can even accept Dev, after his mother falls down, to look at Sona and say go away. When the rest of your family repeat the same, why didn't his antenna go up? When we love some one even a toy, its okay for me to abandon it on the floor but its only natural to get cross when someone else steps on it? I can tell my husband he is being stupid but I get cross when my children copy me.
It is not like his mother was seriously hurt or unconscious. He should have controlled the situation. Dev keeping quiet at that point was his next grave mistake.

Dev then chooses to sulk and drink in his cousin's company. In the meantime, Ishwari tell him Boses are homeless because of him and then Sona comes along to find out why he did what he did. Sona is shown the prenup and she gets furious. The question is why didn't Dev do anything in the meantime? Why didn't he take a taxi to go to the Boses and tell Sona this was all a big mistake, his mother has asked him to make the choice and he chooses her? Was he inebriated? If he was then why do we expect Sona to believe a drunkard? To me, thats his third grave mistake, the final straw.

As a woman, I feel very strongly when Dev's mistakes above are justified. In some sense this is feminism right - expecting to be treated fair and equal? In other sense, I believe girls are delicate and boys need to be taught chivalry and it is revolting to watch a woman not being treated as something precious.
Why is anger and despise fair and equal but not love and vulnerability? Why should Sona be expected to have been more tolerant, more understanding, more loving, more faithful and just be more giving to the man? Its reality right, some of us are good at organising and we end up as secretaries, some one of us are good at rangoli and we only make it as far as rangoli on our streets and not next Picasso? My point is, what we want to see is close to reality where Dev accepts that his actions have repercussions and he is where he is not because of Sona but his own choices. Showing hatred might be cute but show us some chivalry and macho-ness in his behaviour not in 70s demin look please!



Bolded- I agree with u on this. He should have disclosed it to both of them as soon as he got the report that Sona is not pregnant. But, what to do, a person who came to know what happiness is after Sona came to his life, always resorted to short term solutions to maintain it.
Not only this. I have one more complaint with Dev. A person who could read Sona's face and feel her mind even before they turned lovers (double date & the day he visited Sona after she was discharged and she left to her room when her family started talking about her marriage) was totally shown as an insensitive person after marriage, who understood her griefs only when she spoke out. Maybe the CVs wanted to show that's how it is in real life. When a boyfriend becomes a husband, he takes everything for granted. Even Shaheer had commented the same in one of his interviews.

Regarding the remaining points on Dev, I hope you read the Analysis thread where the different layers of Dev, Sona & Ishwari are very well portrayed by many members in a beautiful way.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: grace4317


@ bold...I completely agree with u...If the core nature of the partner is good,then sticking it out in a marriage will give rich dividends...I always believed(still do)that Dev is not bad at heart...His core nature is that of a good person and if a person is in a marriage with an inherently good person,it gives hope...

But then, if the person has a good core nature,then he is not and never was an abuser...It is paradoxical to think that an abuser can be good at heart.An abuser is never good at heart and a good at heart person is never an abuser.A person may have done some mistakes(maybe some serious mistakes) unintentionally which might have appeared abusive to the other person.But it never was abuse and the marriage never was an abusive one..One can call it a rocky marriage or a dificult and painful phase..but not an abusive situation😊
Edited by rock&roll - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I liked ur perspective very diff😊
I m sure it wont be welcomed here this forum is tottally bcomng -ve...n doesnt respect others POV..ofcouse diff 4m d own

so I have just started to ignore such post (by now I know d user id😉) n keep my sanity..no energy n time to fight on fictional charac😆

well but I dont agree on ishus part...d thing is she is self centerd self obsessed n apart 4m all forget sonakshi she is inconsiderate to her own son...she called him selfish ystedy😲 ...really????😡d most devoted son who gave up everything 4 this lady...

this is d diff when dev realized suha is his daughter 1st thing he said sona maa ban gayi..n this lady continues with poti dadi rant...how shrewd mean???😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhank

I liked ur perspective very diff😊

I m sure it wont be welcomed here this forum is tottally bcomng -ve...n doesnt respect others POV..ofcouse diff 4m d own

so I have just started to ignore such post (by now I know d user id😉) n keep my sanity..no energy n time to fight on fictional charac😆

well but I dont agree on ishus part...d thing is she is self centerd self obsessed n apart 4m all forget sonakshi she is inconsiderate to her own son...she called him selfish ystedy😲 ...really????😡d most devoted son who gave up everything 4 this lady...

this is d diff when dev realized suha is his daughter 1st thing he said sona maa ban gayi..n this lady continues with poti dadi rant...how shrewd mean???😳


Thank u Dhank for that encouraging words. W.r.to Ishwari, i see it as, Ishwari being trapped in the whirlpool of insecurity and obsessiveness, which is somewhat a mental disorder that got aggravated, as it was not treated as a disorder; rather was treated as her inherent behavior. So, until & unless someone or some incident brings her out of this trap/disorder, she will be the same and we have no other choice other than to wait patiently till the CVs start her redemption...😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: grace4317


Thank u Dhank for that encouraging words. W.r.to Ishwari, i see it as, Ishwari being trapped in the whirlpool of insecurity and obsessiveness, which is somewhat a mental disorder that got aggravated, as it was not treated as a disorder; rather was treated as her inherent behavior. So, until & unless someone or some incident brings her out of this trap/disorder, she will be the same and we have no other choice other than to wait patiently till the CVs start her redemption...😊


u r welcome I liked ur user id btw..grace😊

lets hope so more than dev I m waitng 4 insworrys redemption..coz she never sees any mistake in herself..as far as dev is concerned he did accept his mistake in past n also rectified be it cake,marriage of sona etc..but now even dev charac cvs r butchering ..n he is not accepting his fault..even sona should accept her flaw n come out of her so called "perfect zone"

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