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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tinkerfairy


Devrath dixit doesn't LOVE anyone but himself .He's narcissist one who can't see beyond himself.During their marriage period it was all about his mom and him.Now also it was about Him only.Now if he just showing sona that he moved on by showing up with random girls then I am sorry he's only Insulting her love and feelings and their past moments .Also in the end sita refused to go back with ram,chose her dignity .went back to earth.I hope again will be same case


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@ bold...If Sonakshi choses that option, I will be in the front row, hooting and cheering her on.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Devakshilover


Exactly I want her to fly to Kolkata ASAP with her daughter
the love which gave such a sweet fruit is being mocked by Dev the GREAT



If he acknowledges his part in the whole mess and is spending his time bed hopping as an attempt to forget his guilt and pain along with the sense of betrayal, and not as some kind of score to settle with his ex-wife... I give a damn if he has a whole harem for himself.

Instead he genuinely sees and believes himself to be the victim. The underdog who now has the chance to payback. Which I think is a combination of sheer stupidity and arrogance.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun

Thanks for the post.

And this is exactly why I find Ram and Ramayan worthless. Sorry if I am hurting anyone's religious beliefs. I love Mahabharata, it has all shades of characters, none white and none black. But Ramayan portrays Raam as Bhagwaan Raam which is a very bad example of Bhagwaan.


Mahabharata fascinates me Bheesma, Karna, Krishna, Arjun and Draupadi - 5 fascinating characters.



Rama is a wonderful example - as a son, King and brother. Not husband. At least I don't see it that way.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Suvika : I have tremendous regard for Lord Ram but I also have the same questions echoed by your kid. He is human after all. But, he was a great King and the avatar of Vishnu was to slay Ravana. Rest was the casualties that come with the 'Maanav avatar'.

Reproducing what I wrote on @deepsel's post :
I don't think Dev's character would get this messy. I felt both are intimidated with each other. While Sonakshi is clear in her head that she is best away from Dev, there is definitely a pull in his direction. I think girls are all over him and he indulges. Cry And probably drinks away and passes out!! He may have paid the girl to act in that manner. Money walks, talks and sings too. It's not necessary that just because a man-woman get into a hotel room, the mission is to have sex. Then all girls and boys out there who share accommodation have only one thing on their minds!!! Let's see what is in store. But 7years of hotel room stay, he has squandered all his earnings. And he advises Sonakshi. Well...well..

Edits : I had a different thought process. Who am I to decide how Dev should behave? He is a character who is now estranged from his wife, living life on his terms. He is a man who has earned enough to squander away his earnings the way he chooses to. So why judge? There are celebrities all around us who are promiscuous. Does it bother us?

Dev can choose to live his life the way he wants to. After all when he was loving, caring and lived for his family and took care of their needs individually, was a devoted son, he was accused of 'being a loser.' He meets his estranged wife who had her family assets to back her up to and her brother/mother duo helping her financially, and comparatively, he had emerged as a business magnate on his own, with his own efforts and intelligence. He had built an empire with solo efforts. What did he gain? Nothing.

So, it's Dev's life. Let him live it the way he wants to. He probably teased Sonakshi of her non-arrogance attitude, because he found her naive. Dev has never been cheated in business, he himself is squandering his hard earned wealth. In business, if you are not shrewd enough, you could be cheated. And who would Sonakshi turn to for advise, if she is cheated in business? Dev Dixit?? He is baiting Sonakshi to know if this new Dev with another woman is his arms would bother her? Why should she care?

Just another take.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rock&roll


Interesting post...My opinion on the first two questions on the Ramayana:

The two actions taken by Ram(as mentioned in the Ramayan) prove two things.
1) We were a chauvinistic society even 4000 years back
2)The Ramayana was written by a man in a man's world.If it had been written by a woman,then Sita would have fought Ravana tooth and nail rather than just cry for help.And of course,Sita would have asked him to take a walk in the park if he had asked her for Agnipariskha..But Valmiki was a man and so the story had to be different.

Agreed. It is like narrating a fairy tale story to a little girl of 21st century.

"So the Princess sat at the window and waited for her prince charming to come on his white horse and rescue her," says the mom.
"But why mama?" asks the girl.
"What do you mean why? Prince has to come and rescue her, right? Take her away to live happily ever after!"
"But why should she wait for him to rescue her? If I were the princess, I wouldn't wait. I would slay the dragon myself and get out of the castle," comes the confident reply from the little girl.

As for Dev dixit breaking vows,I believe that if they are divorced/separated he can live his life his way.I don't endorse this behaviour,but I believe every person has aright to lve his life his way(as long as he doesn't hurt others)It is obvious that his flirtatious ways are becoming difficult for the audience to digest.

I have no issues with his flirting or even bedding another female. He has the right, he wants it and he is doing it. His life. His choice. But yes, I didn't like him flirting with the teacher in front of an impressionable six year old. Maybe they wanted to show it as a funny scene but I didn't feel like smiling.

Let us take a simple example. I come from a tambrahm family.I know that around 70-100 years back,in tambrahm culture eating in hotels was considered a near sin(almost equal to visiting prostitutes).But today it is the done thing everywhere,including tam brahm communities.100 years back,singing carnatic music or dancing was the profession of devdasis.It was not considered respectable.Nowadays being a classical music singer or dancer is,by itself,a respectable profession.See the 180 degree turn taken by society.A divorced man(maybe even woman) having a relationship with others(with their consent) is not completely acceptable today.But 30 years later,it will be the norm

I agree. For me - What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

There is almost zero introspection from both Dev and Sona. And also completely zero introspection from Iswahri and Bijoy.None of the characters have inherently learnt or changed.And they are all responsible for the failure of this marriage.Sona may have committed fewer mistakes than Dev,but she is not all white and Dev is not all black.

No one keeps a scorecard in a marriage. No marriage would stand on its feet if that happened. Did Sona make mistakes? Yes. Did Bijoy? Of course yes. He was no less than Ishwari in some scenes. Started to grate on my nerves at one point. Is Dev black? No. He is grey and so is Sona. But the problem here is he sees himself as the sole victim.

I have written my views on the separation as Dev would see it here...

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4789323

Will check out. Thanks for the link. 😃




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Suvi,
When you look superficially it looks fitting. But even after centuries people points their finger at Ram for being a bad husband but Sita is considered epitome of purity. By taking this blame he have protected his wife just the way he promised he will as a husband. Just my POV. And I felt proud of your son for asking those questions.
KRPKAB using Mythological references have always surprised me since they seem to connect only superficially. Ishu is no Kausalya, Dev is no Ram and Sona is no Sita. May be they wanted to convey Dev is still a one woman man and he is forever Sona's. But like you said this fling or infidelity is the least to be bothered when they have broken all their marriage vows. Nothing there as saving grace.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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@suvi here goes my views:

I will give an excerpt from a Tamil movie. It was an off-beat movie but became a big commercial success due the distinct plot. Hero of the movie will accidentally meet the heroin's father in a brothel...His FIL is a widower and a true hero for his would be wife (heroin). FIL will leave the room teary eyed and the SIL (HERO) will take the blame on himself and surrender to the police which will lead to their breakup. But the FIL who was in distress and couldn't explain to his daughter his plight due to obvious reason will feel immensely guilty and will commit suicide after writing a long-letter stating though he loves his wife and daughter, he had to satiate his carnal pleasures and met his SIL in a compromising situation adn plead her to forgive him if she can., and hero will eventually explain heroine don't ever disdain your father he is and will remain as the best father anyone can have. The story and the treatment of the movie and how artistically they portrayed without an iota of vulgarity and made a point out there that they are not championing illicit relationships but took an effort to make people understand adults require sex and we shouldn't value judge people.

SO my point is Even if Dev is promiscuous, I don't find him wrong. They had a very ugly separation and weren't in touch for 7 odd years. How on earth you can expect him to abstain from any relationship whether it is a one night stand or true relationship?

But having said this Iam 100% sure that Dev will prefer to have a Jacuzzi refreshing bath rather than anything to do with the chipkali. This is my confidence on Dev Dixit

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tinkerfairy


Exactly I want her to fly to Kolkata ASAP with her daughter
the love which gave such a sweet fruit is being mocked by Dev the GREAT


obviously he never cared for her feelings ,her choices,her pain in short he never truly unconditionally loved her .Sona did huge mistake of accepting him without making him realise his mistake ,in the end what she got. She get kicked out of his house.still this guy expecting her to"TRUST" him. For him It's all about "ME ME ME " only .




The patch up after the initial break up had been extremely hasty. It wasn't handled well. There is absolutely no question about that. I lost my interest in the show at that point. Or maybe I should say - I stopped investing my emotional energy after that track. Now I just watch it as a form of entertainment. And with zero expectations.

But then again... if that had been handled logically, we wouldn't BE in this situation now, would we? Me thinks the day logic and mature thinking enters the show, it will end in a week. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Amazing post 👏You know the famous American sitcom FRIENDS in that Ross and Rachel used to patch up and break up all time and were viewers favorite I don't after how many marriages and relationships they were brought together stating they never really fell out of love from each other and same show had Monica and Chandler who actually were a couple in real sense they faced all the issues as one unit and always fought for each other 😃 They are my couple goals 😳

Well now coming to Devakshi, Dev is a free man and can do anything but I really want him to keep one promise of loving only one woman all his life to be true. If he has really moved on its good and Devakshi can go separate ways.Knowing this is an Indian show the chances are highly unlikely that they would make Dev a real casonova 😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Edited by rock&roll - 8 years ago

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