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Bohot mehnat lagi h pls read nd comment..
I have countered every word from ishwari's Vomiting speech😡

Ish- Me kuch kehna chahti hoon
Sona- Me kuch kehna chahti hoon agar aap log sunna chahe to

Ish- Bacche aksar apne man ki baat karte rehte h par maa apne man ki baat khulkar kisise keh nhi pati
Sona- Sab log yaha par apne man ki baat mujhe keh dete h ya suna b dete h par me kuch kehna bhi chahu to unsuna kar dete h

Ish- Dukhi hoti h to bhagwan ke samne ro leti h or sukhi hoti h to bhi bhagwan ke samne roti h
Sona- Mera dukh aaj tak kisi ne samjha nhi or na meri khushi me koi khush ho paya. Me khushi baatna bhi chahu to koi naraz ho jata h

Ish- Ek ladki ki duniya maa banne se pehle kitni badi hoti h na mayke se lekar sasural tak feli hui lambi chodi duniya par maa banneke baad uski duniya itni choti ho jati h ki simatkar ek palne me sama jati h. Santan ma ki duniya ban jati h.Jese dev meri duniya h. Dev meri pehli santan.Iske muh se pehli baar mene maa ye shabd suna.
Sona- Ek ladki ki duniya shadi se pehle apne ghar tak rehti h par shadi ke baad wo felne lagti h pati saas sasur nanad. Itni badi ho jati h ki use apne liye waqt hi nhi mil pata. Ek ladki ka maa banna to uske janam se hi shuru ho jata h, Ek maa ke pyar me to swarth hota h kyuni wo apne bacche apne khoon ke liye hi sab kar rhi h or usse expect karti h ki wo budhape me uska sahara bane. par ek patni ka pyar bina kisi chah ka hota h. Uska jeevan sathi uske sath jeevan bhar rahega b ya nhi iski koi guarantee nhi h par fir b wo uske parivaar ko uske rishto ko apnati h. Par dukh ki baat ye h ki use kabhi b apna nahi samjha jata. Jabki wo apne saare sapne saare amaan apne us naye parivaar ke liye kurbaan kar deti h. Apne parivaar ki ek bahu grahlakshmi hoti h annapoorna hoti h.(Thoda zyada ho gya😆)





Ish- Ek aurat beti, Bahan, Patni, Bahu par ek aurat ke liye sabse bada sukh or samman to ek maa hona hi h.
Sona- Ek aurat ke liye sabse bada samman maa hona hi h par agar wahi maa kiski patni na ho to samaj use nahi apnata h. Ek patni banna bohot badi zimmedari hoti h. Naye rishto ko apnana koi asan baat nhi h. Ek maa ka apne bacche se judav to natural hota h. Par ek naye parivaar me sabse apna judaav banana mehnat ka kaam hota h


Ish- Har beta ram nhi hota par har maa kaushalya hoti h. Ramayan me bete ko vanvaas mila tha par jeevan me maa ko vanvaas milta h wo bhi apne hi ghar me
Sona- Har pati ram nhi hota or me to ye bhi nhi kehti ki har patni seeta hoti h. Par shayad har aurat ki kismat me seeta ki tarah agnipareeksha dena likha hota h. Kabhi ek patni ke roop me to kabhi ek bahoo ke rup me.Seeta ki tarah ek patni hamesha apne pati ke sath vanvaas jhelti h par uska khudka vanvaas khud hi jhelna padta h usme uska pati b uska sath nhi deta. Ram ki tarah ek pati ko to hamesha apne parivaar ke lye apni patni ko chodna padta h. Ek admi ke liye uska parivaar hamesha patni se badkar rha h par ek patni ke lye to uska pati hi sabkuch hota h.



Ish- Nanha sa baccha jab maa ki ungli thamta h to maa ki dinbhar ki thakan turant mit jati h. Baccha rota h to maa roti h. Baccha hasta h to maa has padti h.
Sona- Apne pati ki khushi me hi patni ko khush hona padta h or pati ke dukh ko b ek patni ko hi baatna hota h fir cahe ek pati patni ka dard samjhe ya na samjhe.



Ish- Bachpan me to har sukh dukh me bacche ko maa yaad aa jati h par bade hone par sirf dukh me. Bacche ki duniya jo badalne lagti h nayi grahasthi, Naye log , Nayi duniya. Ek esi duniya jisme kaam kaaj hasi khushi, Pareshani, Patni, Dost sab hote h bas maa nahi hoti. Maa ko to dekho wo fir b us duniya ka hissa bane rehna chahti h.
Sona- Pati ke saare sukh dukh ek patni ke hi hote h. Par shayad pati or uska sasuraal hamesha ek daayra banaye rakhte h jisme bas wo h ek patni ya bahoo chahkar bhi usme nhi aa sakti.Use hamesha bataya jata h ki wo unki zindagi me baad me aai use hamesha ek parayepan se guzarna padta h



Ish- fele hue karobaar ko na sahi par fele hue kapdo ko sametti h taki use lage ki wo b apne bete ke kaam aa rhi ho.Maa jab apne bete ka saman uske kapde sahej kar rakhti h na to asal me wo apni mamta ko sahej rhi hoti h.
Sona- Apne pati ke ek patni kuch karna bhi chahe to use ek alag nazar se dekha jata h. Use kuch salah de uske karobaar se related to use dakhal dena samjha jata. Kyo aakhir ek patni ka itna b haq nhi h. Shadi hone k baad jab ek ladki poori ki poori dusre parivaar ki ho jati h to us parivaar par unke feslo par ek ladki ka haq kyo nhi h.





Ish- Par ye baat to sirf wahi samajh sakti h jo khud ek maa ho. warna to har koi kehta h ki beta abhi b maa ke pallu se bandha hua h warna wo kya kehte h mamma's boy
Sona- PAr ye baat to wahi samjh sakti h jo khud ek patni ho warna apni patni ki baat manne par to har koi use kya kehte h JORU KA GULAM. keh dete h


Ish-Par agar beta maa ka sahara leta ho to kya bura h. Wo dono ek dusre ka sahara hote h. Jese medev ka sahara hu.Dev mera sahara h.
Sona- Ek beta maa ko sahara de sakta h par ek pati apni patni ka sath de to usme sabko bura kyo lag jata h. Ek patni hamesha apne pati ka sahara banti h par us sahara kon deta h




Ish- Mera ye brta meri zid mere gusse mera pyar har cheez ko bina kahe samajh jata h. Muje sambhalta h.
Sona- Meri koi bhi feeling kisi ne nahi samjhi balki mere samjhane par bhi nhi


Ish- Me khush hu ki me ek maa hu. Or muje garv h ki me dev ki maa hu. Mera ye ram apni ma ki mamta ko kabhi vanvaas nhi jane dega.
Sona- Muje koi khushi nhi h ki me Dev ki patni hu jo ek accha beta to ban gaya par shayad uski maa ne use accha pati banna nhi sikhaya. Apka beta fail ho gya maa. Vanvaas to me tabi se kaat rhi hu jabse meri shadi hui h.
One Shlok also to add fire😆😆

Karyeshu Dasi, Karaneshu Manthri; Bhojeshu Mata, Shayaneshu Rambha, Roopeshu lakshmi, Kshamayeshu Dharitri, Shat dharmayukta, Kuladharma Pathni'.

) Karyeshu Dasi: works like a servant
2) Karaneshu Mantri : advises like a minister
3) Bhojeshu Mata: feeds like a mother
4) Shayaneshu Ramba : Pleases in bed like the heavenly beauty Rambha
5) Roopeshu Lakshmi : Beautiful like Goddess Lakshmi
6) Kshmayeshu Dharitri : Having patience like Earth
7) Shat dharma yuktah: woman who has this six virtues
8) Kula dharma Patni : good housewife (a married woman who is not employed outside the home)


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sargesh

Bohot mehnat lagi h pls read nd comment..

I have countered every word from ishwari's Vomiting speech😡

Ish- Me kuch kehna chahti hoon
Sona- Me kuch kehna chahti hoon agar aap log sunna chahe to

Ish- Bacche aksar apne man ki baat karte rehte h par maa apne man ki baat khulkar kisise keh nhi pati
Sona- Sab log yaha par apne man ki baat mujhe keh dete h ya suna b dete h par me kuch kehna bhi chahu to unsuna kar dete h

Ish- Dukhi hoti h to bhagwan ke samne ro leti h or sukhi hoti h to bhi bhagwan ke samne roti h
Sona- Mera dukh aaj tak kisi ne samjha nhi or na meri khushi me koi khush ho paya. Me khushi baatna bhi chahu to koi naraz ho jata h

Ish- Ek ladki ki duniya maa banne se pehle kitni badi hoti h na mayke se lekar sasural tak feli hui lambi chodi duniya par maa banneke baad uski duniya itni choti ho jati h ki simatkar ek palne me sama jati h. Santan ma ki duniya ban jati h.Jese dev meri duniya h. Dev meri pehli santan.Iske muh se pehli baar mene maa ye shabd suna.
Sona- Ek ladki ki duniya shadi se pehle apne ghar tak rehti h par shadi ke baad wo felne lagti h pati saas sasur nanad. Itni badi ho jati h ki use apne liye waqt hi nhi mil pata. Ek ladki ka maa banna to uske janam se hi shuru ho jata h, Ek maa ke pyar me to swarth hota h kyuni wo apne bacche apne khoon ke liye hi sab kar rhi h or usse expect karti h ki wo budhape me uska sahara bane. par ek patni ka pyar bina kisi chah ka hota h. Uska jeevan sathi uske sath jeevan bhar rahega b ya nhi iski koi guarantee nhi h par fir b wo uske parivaar ko uske rishto ko apnati h. Par dukh ki baat ye h ki use kabhi b apna nahi samjha jata. Jabki wo apne saare sapne saare amaan apne us naye parivaar ke liye kurbaan kar deti h. Apne parivaar ki ek bahu grahlakshmi hoti h annapoorna hoti h.(Thoda zyada ho gya😆)





Ish- Ek aurat beti, Bahan, Patni, Bahu par ek aurat ke liye sabse bada sukh or samman to ek maa hona hi h.
Sona- Ek aurat ke liye sabse bada samman maa hona hi h par agar wahi maa kiski patni na ho to samaj use nahi apnata h. Ek patni banna bohot badi zimmedari hoti h. Naye rishto ko apnana koi asan baat nhi h. Ek maa ka apne bacche se judav to natural hota h. Par ek naye parivaar me sabse apna judaav banana mehnat ka kaam hota h


Ish- Har beta ram nhi hota par har maa kaushalya hoti h. Ramayan me bete ko vanvaas mila tha par jeevan me maa ko vanvaas milta h wo bhi apne hi ghar me
Sona- Har pati ram nhi hota or me to ye bhi nhi kehti ki har patni seeta hoti h. Par shayad har aurat ki kismat me seeta ki tarah agnipareeksha dena likha hota h. Kabhi ek patni ke roop me to kabhi ek bahoo ke rup me.Seeta ki tarah ek patni hamesha apne pati ke sath vanvaas jhelti h par uska khudka vanvaas khud hi jhelna padta h usme uska pati b uska sath nhi deta. Ram ki tarah ek pati ko to hamesha apne parivaar ke lye apni patni ko chodna padta h. Ek admi ke liye uska parivaar hamesha patni se badkar rha h par ek patni ke lye to uska pati hi sabkuch hota h.



Ish- Nanha sa baccha jab maa ki ungli thamta h to maa ki dinbhar ki thakan turant mit jati h. Baccha rota h to maa roti h. Baccha hasta h to maa has padti h.
Sona- Apne pati ki khushi me hi patni ko khush hona padta h or pati ke dukh ko b ek patni ko hi baatna hota h fir cahe ek pati patni ka dard samjhe ya na samjhe.



Ish- Bachpan me to har sukh dukh me bacche ko maa yaad aa jati h par bade hone par sirf dukh me. Bacche ki duniya jo badalne lagti h nayi grahasthi, Naye log , Nayi duniya. Ek esi duniya jisme kaam kaaj hasi khushi, Pareshani, Patni, Dost sab hote h bas maa nahi hoti. Maa ko to dekho wo fir b us duniya ka hissa bane rehna chahti h.
Sona- Pati ke saare sukh dukh ek patni ke hi hote h. Par shayad pati or uska sasuraal hamesha ek daayra banaye rakhte h jisme bas wo h ek patni ya bahoo chahkar bhi usme nhi aa sakti.Use hamesha bataya jata h ki wo unki zindagi me baad me aai use hamesha ek parayepan se guzarna padta h



Ish- fele hue karobaar ko na sahi par fele hue kapdo ko sametti h taki use lage ki wo b apne bete ke kaam aa rhi ho.Maa jab apne bete ka saman uske kapde sahej kar rakhti h na to asal me wo apni mamta ko sahej rhi hoti h.
Sona- Apne pati ke ek patni kuch karna bhi chahe to use ek alag nazar se dekha jata h. Use kuch salah de uske karobaar se related to use dakhal dena samjha jata. Kyo aakhir ek patni ka itna b haq nhi h. Shadi hone k baad jab ek ladki poori ki poori dusre parivaar ki ho jati h to us parivaar par unke feslo par ek ladki ka haq kyo nhi h.





Ish- Par ye baat to sirf wahi samajh sakti h jo khud ek maa ho. warna to har koi kehta h ki beta abhi b maa ke pallu se bandha hua h warna wo kya kehte h mamma's boy
Sona- PAr ye baat to wahi samjh sakti h jo khud ek patni ho warna apni patni ki baat manne par to har koi use kya kehte h JORU KA GULAM. keh dete h


Ish-Par agar beta maa ka sahara leta ho to kya bura h. Wo dono ek dusre ka sahara hote h. Jese medev ka sahara hu.Dev mera sahara h.
Sona- Ek beta maa ko sahara de sakta h par ek pati apni patni ka sath de to usme sabko bura kyo lag jata h. Ek patni hamesha apne pati ka sahara banti h par us sahara kon deta h




Ish- Mera ye brta meri zid mere gusse mera pyar har cheez ko bina kahe samajh jata h. Muje sambhalta h.
Sona- Meri koi bhi feeling kisi ne nahi samjhi balki mere samjhane par bhi nhi


Ish- Me khush hu ki me ek maa hu. Or muje garv h ki me dev ki maa hu. Mera ye ram apni ma ki mamta ko kabhi vanvaas nhi jane dega.
Sona- Muje koi khushi nhi h ki me Dev ki patni hu jo ek accha beta to ban gaya par shayad uski maa ne use accha pati banna nhi sikhaya. Apka beta fail ho gya maa. Vanvaas to me tabi se kaat rhi hu jabse meri shadi hui h.
One Shlok also to add fire😆😆

Karyeshu Dasi, Karaneshu Manthri; Bhojeshu Mata, Shayaneshu Rambha, Roopeshu lakshmi, Kshamayeshu Dharitri, Shat dharmayukta, Kuladharma Pathni'.

) Karyeshu Dasi: works like a servant
2) Karaneshu Mantri : advises like a minister
3) Bhojeshu Mata: feeds like a mother
4) Shayaneshu Ramba : Pleases in bed like the heavenly beauty Rambha
5) Roopeshu Lakshmi : Beautiful like Goddess Lakshmi
6) Kshmayeshu Dharitri : Having patience like Earth
7) Shat dharma yuktah: woman who has this six virtues
8) Kula dharma Patni : good housewife (a married woman who is not employed outside the home)




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very well written! Awesome post !
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Posted: 8 years ago
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WOw niceee...its like a rain in the midsummer...isi liya sab bolthe hain ...mehanat ka phal mita hotta hain...
Beautifully countered !!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Very beautiful. I really felt now for sona. Wonderful post.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: WeRockTheWorld

WOw niceee...its like a rain in the midsummer...isi liya sab bolthe hain ...mehanat ka phal mita hotta hain...

Beautifully countered !!

Thanks... Rain in midsummer
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Girl Want U have Done...
OMG!!!!😲😲😲

I have No words
Hat's Off...👏👏👏 Kash yea CV add kare
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Just awesome!!!! What effort and what a well thought out response !!

Especially like the Ram-Sita and the attachment parallels - very very apt!! 👏 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Amazing post dear 👏
Don't know why cvs r always trying to justify ishwari's character.
Yaar thoda sa respect wives ko v dedo thoda sa jada nhi..moms r the best friend of every child i agree.maa janam deti hai,ungli tham kar chalna sikhati hai etc .shaadi se pehele hum jo kuch v hote hai apne parents k badolat.mother's role and place in life of a child can't be expressed through words.Parents cant be compared wid anyone. In d same way u can't compare even wife too.

Jiss maa k bare mein cvs itna bada bhasan de gaye kya wo bhul gaye ki ussi maa ko ek ladki hi apne pati k liye chhod kar aati hai . Wives apna sab kuch chhod k aati hai bas apne husband k liye.wives heaven ko chhod hell aati jaha usse taunts ,parents parwarish pe question karenge etc fir ussi hell ko apne liye heaven v bana leti hai.
Yaar jiske liye itna sab kuch kiya uspe jara sa hak na jamaye to kispe jatayegi...expecting a bit of respect, care and love is not wrong.tht expectation u can't term as wife is snacthing rights from mother.


Cvs always prove sona to be thts wht i don't like.
Edited by shruti. - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Honestly speaking, Ishwari's speech didn't reach my heart, with no prejudice added. I have always appreciated ishwari's "nihswaarth" love when it was genuine, when it held raw emotions. I did not even mind sonakshi's birthday date missing because what ishwari was doing was selflessly, out of love and without an intentional desire to spoil their date. I do not look with a prejudiced eye, but yesterday ishwari's speech did not touch my heart. Why Shaheer actually cried is because he might be seeing Supriya Maa there and for the sweet lady like Supriya mam, or any sweet mother, let's say for example Asha Maa saying that exact same speech would have touched each and every chord in the heart. Ishwari's "Maa ke pallu se" and "Mamma's boy" were very intentional, deliberate and silent slapping words to Sonakshi. Probably for both the reasons of her asking the Asha Maa issue and also calling her mamma's boy thing. But Sonakshi had never herself come to ishwari to tell both the stuff, it was ishwari herself who had meddled herself in that.

In short, I did not like the speech that Ishwari gave. Wiping my tears is a far fetched thought... I was totally emotionless...
But what sonakshi's speech you have written Sargesh, I really cried... I honestly did. The exact pain that sonakshi must be feeling, I felt that in your words, and I cried... Unabashed, Seamless tears... I sooo wish sonakshi could speak those words. I wish she could address her woes too. I wish they could see the daughter in law with a daughter's eye. Or I wish Sonakshi could build her own world in that house with Dev.

But for Dev, he is the same symbolism of that swing that is now kept for public amusement. He keeps on moving to and fro... Once amusing his mother and then his wife, then again his mother and then again his wife. And when you do not understand his movement, you get hurt badly just like that swing that repeatedly hurted Dev because he couldn't understand how to move around that swing.
And when the swing (dev) has hurted repeatedly, it is finally thought for that it is not fit for anyone's personal use, they have finally kept him in the open, whoever pleases to have time with it, can have it. But the only two people who would not use it will be the same two people who were the first hand dealers with this swing. Sonakshi and Ishwari.
Dev is finally tired of pleasing maa and biwi, he says sorry and keeps moving. He doesn't gives those huge concerns of pleasing either of the two. He says thank you and sorry and leaves.
And Sonakshi who stands at the balcony of their room keeps on silently looking at her dream (swing and Dev both in this personification) being used by everyone. All are enjoying with it /him without her. And she is not a part of this family's emotional connect. Because just like the swing, Dev is not in her personal space anymore.
Sleeping together only doesn't count to the emotional connect.

I am sorry, but I have slowly started disconnecting with this show only. Feeling terrible for sonakshi. And for dev once in a while. Why I don't connect with ishwari, is long forgotten. I just don't connect with her for a long time now.

What more to say, you have made a fabulous post... I really have loved it...

PS: What's Your name dear?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruti.

Amazing post dear 👏
Don't know why cvs r always trying to justify ishwari's character.
Yaar thoda sa respect wives ko v dedo thoda sa jada nhi..moms r the best friend of every child i agree.maa janam deti hai,ungli tham kar chalna sikhati hai etc .shaadi se pehele hum jo kuch v hote hai apne parents k badolat.mother's role and place in life of a child can't be expressed through words.Parents cant be compared wid anyone. In d same way u can't compare even wife too.

Jiss maa k bare mein cvs itna bada bhasan de gaye kya wo bhul gaye ki ussi maa ko ek ladki hi apne pati ko chhod kar aati hai . Wives apna sab kuch chhod k aati hai bas apne husband k liye.wives heaven ko chhod hell aati jaha usse taunts ,parents parwarish pe question karenge etc fir ussi hell ko apne liye heaven v bana leti hai.
Yaar jiske liye itna sab kuch kiya uspe jara sa hak na jamaye to kispe jatayegi...expecting a bit of respect, care and love is not wrong.tht expectation u can't term as wife is snacthing rights from mother.


Cvs always prove sona to be thts wht i don't like.

Thank for appreciation. Somewhat sona has put her points while talking with ishwari in Friday's epi. On which ishwari was shut what to say even she can't deny that sacrifices are also done from sona's side.

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