Mid-Week Analysis (because I couldn't resist!)

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There is so much to say about the past few episodes, that I just couldn't wait for the weekend!


I think Sona's anger, and her reaction expressed in the note was spot on! She needed to communicate to Dev how alienated she was feeling in the family, and she did so in a most effective manner. No arguments there. But I have also begun to see where Sona is tripping herself up in the Neha situation: she is trying to rush Neha into something she isn't ready for yet, that is, to consider Ranveer's side of the story and acknowledge her feelings for him. Right now, every time Sona tries to drive home the point that Neha loves Ranveer, it makes her feel stupid, because she genuinely believes that Ranveer doesn't love her back. Sona, remember when you thought Dev chose his family over you, that desperation you felt to prove that you had moved on, and that Dev meant nothing to you? That is what Neha is going through right now, and in such a situation, telling her repeatedly that she is, in fact, in love with Ranveer is bound to get an angry, OTT reaction from her; it goes against everything she is trying to crush inside her. Neha's anger makes Ishwari and Dev panic in turn, and then it takes no time for them to start frantically, destructively removing everything from the vicinity that might be upsetting Neha. That's what Ishwari was doing when she told Sona to visit her parents.


What nobody in the family is able to understand, is that maybe more than a solution -- either in the form of a divorce, or efforts towards reconciliation -- what Neha needs right now is someone to talk to, to vent, and to discuss her deepest fears and concerns about her marriage. Even in her darkest times with Dev, and even now, Sona has her family, she has Elina and Dada who make her talk even when she is trying her best to hide her true feelings or push them out. That is what Neha needs, and what Sona gave her very briefly, in that beautiful conversation they had last week. IF ONLY Sona had continued to have such conversations with Neha, to be a sister to her, let her insults wash off her back, and given her a space to open up, the thought process that Neha is beginning now might have come about much more smoothly, with less collateral damage. Sona absolutely has the right idea that communication is the answer, but I think she took it a bit too literally when she tried to jump straight to communication between Neha and Ranveer.


When Neha was apologising for convincing Dev to return Ranveer's job when Sona couldn't, I think the she was genuine. She knew how much it hurt her when Ranveer gave more importance to his family's opinions over hers, and she assumed Sona would feel the same way, but Sona showed her another side of why her and Dev's relationship was different. The crux of the issue in her and Dev's argument was not that he had taken Ranveer's job, although she did not approve of that move, it was that he had done it without discussing it first, thereby making her feel left out and unimportant. She doesn't want to change Dev, but she wants him to open up to her completely. A Neha who was beginning to contemplate this shut off abruptly when Sona suggested that she still cared for Ranveer, but I think she took it into consideration later when she thought about why Sona-Dev's relationship was so different from her own. Sona does so much more for Neha just by being in love with Dev, being indispensable to Dev, and showing her what a healthy relationship looks like, than she does by trying willfully to yank the threads of Neha's life together... I hope we see her understanding this soon, and putting her influence into effect! It's beautiful to watch Sona's character slowly, through trial and error, discover her strengths, and take shape as a much-needed member of the Dixit family.


Sona's absence shows so beautifully what she brings to the Dixit household, even when she's not trying. First and foremost, she keeps Dev happy, and only if Dev is happy and calm and in front of her eyes, can Ishwari focus on anything else. The minute Sona left, and Dev took off right behind her, Ishwari's attention was completely lost to Neha. This was evident when Neha went to the kitchen and opened up to her mother about her doubts regarding Ranveer's love. This would have been a perfect time for Ishwari to put a crack in Neha's stubbornness by telling her that not everybody displays love by stalking their partner, and that Ranveer had persistently called her but that maybe he just respected the fact that she doesn't want to talk. It's not clear if this is true or not, but at least it would have opened Neha up to the idea of communicating with Ranveer and asking him what he wanted. But instead, Ishwari was focused on insisting that Dev still loved everyone equally, and he was just doing his duty by Sona as a newly-married husband. And it was back to square one for Neha when she told Ishwari to sleep, only to watch her mother torture herself staying up in anticipation of Dev's arrival.


What can I say about the Bose family? I just love how much fun they have together! I was so impressed with Dadi's silent guidance in these episodes, hidden behind her wonderful sense of humour. While Asha was panicking and demanding to know if Sona and Dev had fought, Dadi made it all so casual... so what if they had fought? Let Dev experience the pangs of separation for a few days! But then when Dev did show up, she knew just how to ensure that he was given a clear path to his goal. Sona still has so much to learn from her family, so much wisdom and positivity that she can bring to her new home, and especially to Dev. And Dev, who did not have the privilege of growing up in such a positive environment, is just beginning to learn its healing power. Everyone, in their own way tried to ease the tension between the young couple. Asha invited Dev in, Elena made him sit next to Sona, Saurabh invited him to stay, Dadi ensured that Sona's excuses didn't work, and when all that failed, Bijoy grabbed the bull by the horns and threw them out! With this kind of parallel processing, and teamwork, not to mention humour, great problems become challenges to face together. I hope that's the lesson that Dev and Sona take away from their visit!

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Great analysis!
Especially agree with this

It's beautiful to watch Sona's character slowly, through trial and error, discover her strengths, and take shape as a much-needed member of the Dixit family.

I have never understood Neha and have consequently been less than supportive of her character.

In order for Neha to mature, she needs someone to guide her. Right now everyone is afraid to speak to her. She also has never had the inherent understanding or goodness of Dev, and i don't believe even for a moment that it has anything to do with Iswari denying Neha her right to an education. She has got to stop with her bickering mindset and begin with counting her blessings. She should at least try to appreciate the good things about her family. I never understood the reason for her rudeness. Yes she shouldered responsibilities, but so do her other sibling, in fact far more than her. So he got an education in the process. But he does NOT bicker when his mother and sisters come in the way of his happiness. Why can't Dev be an example?
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Originally posted by: Samanalyse

There is so much to say about the past few episodes, that I just couldn't wait for the weekend!

Great to see your post Sam after such amazing episodes and you are back with your ever shining magic wand.😊

I think Sona's anger, and her reaction expressed in the note was spot on! She needed to communicate to Dev how alienated she was feeling in the family, and she did so in a most effective manner. No arguments there. But I have also begun to see where Sona is tripping herself up in the Neha situation: she is trying to rush Neha into something she isn't ready for yet, that is, to consider Ranveer's side of the story and acknowledge her feelings for him. Right now, every time Sona tries to drive home the point that Neha loves Ranveer, it makes her feel stupid, because she genuinely believes that Ranveer doesn't love her back. Sona, remember when you thought Dev chose his family over you, that desperation you felt to prove that you had moved on, and that Dev meant nothing to you? That is what Neha is going through right now, and in such a situation, telling her repeatedly that she is, in fact, in love with Ranveer is bound to get an angry, OTT reaction from her; it goes against everything she is trying to crush inside her. Neha's anger makes Ishwari and Dev panic in turn, and then it takes no time for them to start frantically, destructively removing everything from the vicinity that might be upsetting Neha. That's what Ishwari was doing when she told Sona to visit her parents.

I would like to mention a snippet from my reply in your previous post here.

"When Dev compared his break-up state with Ranveer, he was actually true that even though he left Sona for his mother, Its not that he erased her from his life, he was dying million deaths each second and it was very visible for others which he was not able to see in Ranveer. When Sona jumped in to new relation with Ritwik, Its not that her love for Dev ended, she was fighting with her own-self and wanted to show that if Dev can remove her from his life just like that then she also can move on from this relation just like that. Both of them failed miserably thats when they understood just by saying break-up & move-on their love for each other wont end.


Even in Sona-Neha convo, i think Sona saw her self in Neha when Neha keep on saying R doesn't love me. I feel this is the exact reason why Sona is not able to stay away from this mess even after listening "Stay away from Neha case" repeatedly from Dev & Ishwari. "

What nobody in the family is able to understand, is that maybe more than a solution -- either in the form of a divorce, or efforts towards reconciliation -- what Neha needs right now is someone to talk to, to vent, and to discuss her deepest fears and concerns about her marriage. Even in her darkest times with Dev, and even now, Sona has her family, she has Elina and Dada who make her talk even when she is trying her best to hide her true feelings or push them out. That is what Neha needs, and what Sona gave her very briefly, in that beautiful conversation they had last week. IF ONLY Sona had continued to have such conversations with Neha, to be a sister to her, let her insults wash off her back, and given her a space to open up, the thought process that Neha is beginning now might have come about much more smoothly, with less collateral damage. Sona absolutely has the right idea that communication is the answer, but I think she took it a bit too literally when she tried to jump straight to communication between Neha and Ranveer.

The path what N-R want to choose is already traveled by D-S, She very well know that other than pain & dying million deaths every sec there is nothing in that journey. She is seeing these 2 stupidly choosing that same path which she can never even wish for her enemy, here these 2 are family. How can she sit silently unaffected? BUT she should know when to take a step back and let it go and shouldn't force herself and her opinion in the family matters when it is not welcomed by others.

When Neha was apologising for convincing Dev to return Ranveer's job when Sona couldn't, I think the she was genuine. She knew how much it hurt her when Ranveer gave more importance to his family's opinions over hers, and she assumed Sona would feel the same way, but Sona showed her another side of why her and Dev's relationship was different. The crux of the issue in her and Dev's argument was not that he had taken Ranveer's job, although she did not approve of that move, it was that he had done it without discussing it first, thereby making her feel left out and unimportant. She doesn't want to change Dev, but she wants him to open up to her completely. A Neha who was beginning to contemplate this shut off abruptly when Sona suggested that she still cared for Ranveer, but I think she took it into consideration later when she thought about why Sona-Dev's relationship was so different from her own. Sona does so much more for Neha just by being in love with Dev, being indispensable to Dev, and showing her what a healthy relationship looks like, than she does by trying willfully to yank the threads of Neha's life together... I hope we see her understanding this soon, and putting her influence into effect! It's beautiful to watch Sona's character slowly, through trial and error, discover her strengths, and take shape as a much-needed member of the Dixit family.

Even in husband-wife relation, Some times we need to give space to each other. Your partner can only open up before you without any hesitation when he feels that you will listen to him & understand his pov without judging him & his actions. Some times it really annoys me when ever Sona says "You should have discussed with me before taking this decision" to Dev. This dialogue of her always gives me Ishwari vibes. When Sona thinks that she is an independent woman who had every right to take her decisions(even though it should be their decision) then she also needs to accept that Dev holds the same right.

Sona's absence shows so beautifully what she brings to the Dixit household, even when she's not trying. First and foremost, she keeps Dev happy, and only if Dev is happy and calm and in front of her eyes, can Ishwari focus on anything else. The minute Sona left, and Dev took off right behind her, Ishwari's attention was completely lost to Neha. This was evident when Neha went to the kitchen and opened up to her mother about her doubts regarding Ranveer's love. This would have been a perfect time for Ishwari to put a crack in Neha's stubbornness by telling her that not everybody displays love by stalking their partner, and that Ranveer had persistently called her but that maybe he just respected the fact that she doesn't want to talk. It's not clear if this is true or not, but at least it would have opened Neha up to the idea of communicating with Ranveer and asking him what he wanted. But instead, Ishwari was focused on insisting that Dev still loved everyone equally, and he was just doing his duty by Sona as a newly-married husband. And it was back to square one for Neha when she told Ishwari to sleep, only to watch her mother torture herself staying up in anticipation of Dev's arrival.

Now a days i am just ignoring Ishwari for the sake of my own sanity. I am really amazed to see Dev's efforts in manofy Sona and it also shows the diff between Dev-Sona's and Neha-Ranveer's relation strength. This is exactly Dev meant when he said he was not able to see that passion & fire in Ranveer for his relation with Neha.

What can I say about the Bose family? I just love how much fun they have together! I was so impressed with Dadi's silent guidance in these episodes, hidden behind her wonderful sense of humour. While Asha was panicking and demanding to know if Sona and Dev had fought, Dadi made it all so casual... so what if they had fought? Let Dev experience the pangs of separation for a few days! But then when Dev did show up, she knew just how to ensure that he was given a clear path to his goal. Sona still has so much to learn from her family, so much wisdom and positivity that she can bring to her new home, and especially to Dev. And Dev, who did not have the privilege of growing up in such a positive environment, is just beginning to learn its healing power. Everyone, in their own way tried to ease the tension between the young couple. Asha invited Dev in, Elena made him sit next to Sona, Saurabh invited him to stay, Dadi ensured that Sona's excuses didn't work, and when all that failed, Bijoy grabbed the bull by the horns and threw them out! With this kind of parallel processing, and teamwork, not to mention humour, great problems become challenges to face together. I hope that's the lesson that Dev and Sona take away from their visit!

@BOLD : Bang on!!!!!

Dixit & Bose both are one in a million type families yaar. Even though i like the craziness of Bose family, We can never see a wife behaving like Sona and FIL behaving like Bijoy when their SIL was staying at their house for the first time after marriage. The best part is Dev took every thing so lightly and enjoying this craziness along with them just like us. 😆


Its always a pleasure reading your perspective and being a part of healthy discussion. If time permits then please keep posting more.😊
Edited by LiveLife321 - 8 years ago
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Awesome analysis

I had always felt that Neha needs someone to give her guidance , warmth and understanding even before trying to reunite Ranveeer and Neha
Sonakshi is right when saying talking will solve the issue but she needs to understand Neha first as she too is complexed so aside from her marriage Neha has to have confidence in herself she has to bring out that person that wants to live for some goal no matter what she chooses once Neha is happy with herself then only slowly the issue of her marriage can be brought up advise given and matters sorted out

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The thing Neha needs the most at this moment is time and some sensible person to cater her internal thoughts. She needs to sort things first within herself and then with Ranveer. Someone has to open the door of introspection for her and sona can do it perfectly. But sadly she is forcing her to accept her love for ranveer and give her love a second chance. A chance to that love for which neha is unsure. It is important for neha to realise what she wants and then communicate to her brother and sister.
There is no one in Dixit clan who can actually bring out Neha's internal fears out. Ishwari is guilt ridden because of Neha's sacrificed childhood and in return she make Dev feel guilty, because she cannot handle the load of this guilt alone. So both mother son duo will do anything what Neha wants. They will go with the face value of what she is saying, she wants divorce so give her the same. For them Neha is a crying baby who should be kept quiet by giving her anything she wants because her crying remember them of their own guilt. They will not try to reason her with proper justifications. Other than them, there is GKB who will suggest her to burn her house and move in with her husband to Dixit mansion. Riya- Nikki are sensible but nobody will listen to them and vicky is useless. I feel somehow mamaji should try and talk to her.
Anyways Sona is trying really hard, which is actually a wrong move and making Neha and Ishwari irritated. She should take it slow and let Neha be for some time. And this was the reason why Ishwari wanted her away form Dixit clan for sometime.
I liked how you sort of compared sona and neha's condition during break up. Just like Neha, sona also lost all the hopes and convinced herself to move on. Sona needed time to get healed at taht point of time and that is what neha also need is time and a good chat to understand the situation. Right now she is angry and will not be able to see Ranveer's love.
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And Bose family is the best. Even in financial crisis they try to solve the problem together like a family. They give serious family goals and i wish Dev adapts positivity form them.
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Great analysis Sam .I absolutely love what you have written about Neha''s issue and agree that at this time she needs someone who can listen to her deepest fear without forcing her to take a decision .Unfortunately she has none .At this time, I feel Sona is not being much of a help here either as she is unable to see things beyond ego issues .

I am sure I am the minority here when I say I can't relate to Sonakshi feeling like an outsider .We see Dev and Sona have different opinions on Neha's matter .Dev is firm on his decsion of supporting divorce because he has his own reasons for doing so on the other hand we see Sonakshi is miffed with Dev for not listening to her and feels her opinion doesn't matter .I wonder what will make Sonakshi feel like a family again...does she expect Dev to consider her opinion instead of his ? what would happen in future when they have difference of opinion ...will she respect the fact that just like her he can have a opnion of his own .I am definitely missing something here as I am not able to understand the real problem of Sonakshi nor sympathize with her.

Am I wrong if I feel this is a classic case of double standards ...at one end she is hurt that she is not considered part of his family but on the other hand she has not even informed Dev about Saurabh''s job or her plan of starting a new business .She was the one who said to Dev during vrath scene that being a independent women she can take decisions on her own and she doesn't see why she had to discuss with him .Will she say the same again when Saurabh''s job issue is revealed ? Is she being fair ? Will Dev react like Sona and make her feel guilty ?

My post may sound anti Sonakshi hence I am not posting much these days .Somewhere I want to enjoy the nok jhok scenes without applying any logic.Bose family is always a delight to watch and with each passing episode I adore Asha as a mother,wife and now MIL.I find her to be the most sensible among all.

I can't stop myself from saying this ,if the situation was reversed .let's say if Dev had thrown Sona out of his room and Ishwari had thrown them out of their house then there would be a big uproar and by now Dev and Ishwari would have been charged with domestic violence case 😆😆😆
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Originally posted by: yyy


I can't stop from saying this if the situation was reversed .let's say if Dev had thrown Sona out of his room and Ishwari had thrown them out of his house then there would be a big uproar and by now Dev and Ishwari would have been charged with domestic violence case 😆😆😆


Hahaha...Same thing i have mentioned in Saumya's post some time back in the morning.😆😆😆

"While watching it, i just got this thought that just do a role reversal of Dev and Sona & imagine the state of Dev in this forum.🤣

People didn't leave him without bashing even when he left his room to sona and slept in hall when he was angry. If Dev would have pushed Sona out of his room in angry then forget about bashing or aiming their guns at Dev, the amazing critics in our forum would have done Post-mortem of Dev by this time and we would have been posting saying RIP Dev babu.🤣"

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