Ishwari: How close to reality OR a messed up character?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi guys...

I was thinking a lot in this direction...
And I feel, Devakshi break up would have been far bearable had Dev's family been a little supportive or rather should I reframe it as, Had Ishwari not been so indifferent and manipulative...

But she is, and a mere glimpse of her one scene leaves a bad taste in the mouth feeling...

I tried contemplating a lot about Ishwari... Real mothers like her do exist... I agree... But to this extent? I have asked N no. of times the same thing, and people have vouched to have seen such mothers..

Insecurities, breaking their son's married life, it has been seen in reality as well... but those mothers try and make their son's life a little better... But I don't see anything from Ishwari's side... I find her more and more lethal to her own son day after day...

At this point of time I doubt if such a mother like Ishwari exists or is it another messed up and butchered down character with no redemption at all...

Do you all think is there any point of recovery for Ishwari's character?

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Jade0001 thumbnail
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I do hope at some point Ishwari regrets taking her son's happiness away .
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Of course there are mothers like Ishwari that exist. But those mothers are probably somewhere in a mental facility. 😆

I think there is a point of recovery. If she recognizes that Dev's happiness is in Sonakshi, and does everything to get them together, then I would say she has redeemed her character. But Ishwari shows no initiative in doing this.

Most mothers I know of are hellbent on marrying off their sons (atleast mine is). Ishwari is a special case.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Honestly, I do think that such mothers exist...else the word ' mother-in-law' would not have so many negative connotations !😆
Jokes apart - see, we are looking at the situation from all sides, as a viewer...in real life, such insecure women would not show all aspects of their personality to everyone...like how Ishwari has worn a mask in front of Dev. I am not saying they are out and out villains...just they they have massive issues, and they try to manipulate situations to their benefit, in the way THEY see fit.

Most of the time, such women, like Ishwari, convince themselves that what they are doing is right, and is good for their child...for the simple reason that they KNOW somewhere deep down that they are wrong in their actions...and convincing themselves is a defense mechanism to avoid guilt. It doesn't mean they don't love their son...they do, maybe a little too much...it's just their way of showing it, and their insecurity about being replaced, is misplaced.

Regarding Ishwari - currently, I think everyone hates her...which means Supriya Pilgaonkar has done her job exceedingly well. But the redemption will come...because at heart, Ishwari is not a villain. CVs have shown her having instances of remorse earlier, esp in the way she treated Sona...those disappeared since CVs needed to establish hate. But she WILL turn..when and if she can fully comprehend what havoc she has brought into her son's life. Because the key here is Dev - she sees everything in this world in relation to him. And when she sees she has hurt him ( right now she isn't ) - she WILL repent.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I have a sad story to share in this context how such mothers give a brutal end to their own son's life...

I know of a mother like Ishwari who married her son and brought a daughter in law...
And the same tug of war game began, with that son having absolutely no say... He would never stand up for his wife, though he should have...

One fine day, the wife, who was heavily pregnant with twins, decided to leave the house, never to return... She said nothing to any of them... Just packed her stuffs and told she is going to her mother's house for delivery...

She never came back, though they all visited her after her twins' birth... She was just so done with having no one to stand up for her..

The husband started dissolving... He tried getting his wife back, but she never returned... He visited her multiple times... But no benefit... He was sandwiched between his mother and wife... slowly he stopped laughing and smiling... and eventually started ignoring his health. ..

That guy knew he was suffering from cancer, but told nobody until his family tool notice of his pain... They tried moving heavens and earth to get him treated... But too late... He had lost all wishes for life, and finally succumbed to a tragic death...

THIS STORY IS WHAT SHAKES ME FROM WITHIN SEEING DEV'S CONDITION... I literally beg before the writers to shape the characters up to realize before it gets too late for Dev...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@enness: Very well said. I second your thought. Supriya pilgaonkar is doing such a great job that I can't imagine any other actor portraying ishwari. Ishwari is a very complex character so one can't have a clear and definite opinion about her. She has mind related issues more than physical ailments that's why I always feel like she needs a psychologist instead a nutritionist.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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a lot of mothers fear loosing control of their sons, or they feel that their sons may listen more to their wives after marriage. i think it is the innate competitiveness among women to want to feel the most special. the ek Mayan me do talwar nehi re sakti applies to only women and not to men.
women compete for attention. men work in camaraderie

but ishwari as a character is quite flawed. she has a son who literary worships her and yet she is highly in secure. she is least like a god and more like a little girl with abandonment issues. she sprouts a lot of wisdom where other people are concern, but in no way applies that wisdom to herself and her relationship with her son. she seems to be living in two paraller universes at the same time one where only she and her son exist. and one where she play acts to relate with others.

i think we see ishwari's character in more negative light, because we know she had nothing to fear, nobody did anything to hurt or harm her, her son worships her and sona respected her and supported her point of view knowing it was right. the fact that ishwari showed so much regards for sona, her values and wisdom at such a young age, yet rejects her outright as an ideal partner for her son not because sona is not good enough but because dev actually is in love with sona. while just a while back she was willing to accept natasha because she knew that dev was not in love with natasha. ishwari cares only for her own importance in devs life, and the idea that any other woman could possibly have equal or any importance in dev's life is downright unacceptable. she would rather dev marry a drab girl who blends with furniture rather then he marry anybody interesting to dev.

we as viewers empathize with dev for his obsession and behavior because what happened to him was unfair, he took the decision to separate from sona because he feared loosing his mother, in the same stream we cant empathize with ishwari because her fear was baseless and a figment of her own possessive imagination.

so yess ishwari as a character is one messed up woman. but the character of ishwari is quite close to reality on a psychological bases
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ofcourse they do...we only want to beleive what we have seen and known bt the real word is a much bigger place than the one we feel we live in.

1. Parents can never think or do wrong for their kids...yes we hear dat everyday ..atleast the pArents think so..
It won't b wrong here to say thAt the intentions of majority of parents are clear..very few exceptions...bt clear and good intentions do not always mean that the decision they take around it right or in favour of their children. They refuse to understand thT...humne duniya tumse zyada dekh rakhi hai - which is a straight and clear way of saying we can never go wrong in our decisions especially when it comes to our children...
Who knows whats gonna happen tmrw? Do they know? R they sure? Such decisons dnt come with Guarantee...dey always come wid tumhari bhalai k liye...we have lived our life..y wud we do something wrong to urs??

Ishwari also apparently doing something for her sons bhalai..she refuses to accept she can think or do wrong ti her son.

2. In her case, she has been a single mother, weak financial background, 3 daughters and one son's responsibility in the Age where many dnt even get married. I can say so coz she is 50 and dev is 27. She got married in her early twenties and no husband by the time she turned 30.
So ever since then she has only seen her Son doing everything she wants. She has seen times which many people wnt even have heard of..I remember the very first episode whre Dev asks ppl how much time dey took to reach their new house and they sd 15-20 min and he sd it took his mother 20 years to reach there.
She has seen all bad times in her life..all problems were related to money, there has never been any other issue in life apart from money issues. For her the only problem one can ever face in life is problem related to money. And same goes for the entire set of family as per her. So now dat they hv money, no other problem can make her or her son weak, if they can come outta the most severe and biggest problem in this world acc to them, rest of the issues are certainly small. No financial problems also means everything in life is fine and can b dealt with.
But here comes an issue which is non- monetry.. An issue she has never heard of, never faced but yes one thing is for sure, her son can deal with it and come outta it..if he can face that struggle..this is just a small petty heartbreak..it cnt do much harm to him. Thats wat many parents also think. And the best and oldest excuse of all to give urself and others..time will do the magic.. Time k saath sab bhool jaate hai and sab theek ho jata hai.


3. Dev has in a way pampered her..she herself sd once..when with dev I feel he's the mother.
Her love for Dev is more of a habit...she's addicted to this habit of him being there all the time, no anger no grudges nothing wen it comes to his mom. Dey say Old habits die hard. So how can she let dat habit of him being around always go like her. She saw a change coming there wen sonakshi entered Dev's life..she cudnt accept that change...the small things matter the most..n Dev did all those small things which indicated a big change..a change not to her liking .. We all resist change..dnt we? And when we are sure its not for the good..we refuse to adapt.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Iswari!Too close to reality . but no one become deewana like dev in real or may be.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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She may be being more lethal to her son as each day passes but she isn't realizing it.
Some people have a habit of creating a certain surrounding around then, assuming it to be perfect for them and for the people around them too. Like creating a shell around them.
It is like how we do with our kids. In order to protect them we try and create a happy world around them , away from all the terrible things.
She is pretending to do the same. For her, Dev is still her little son who needs her protection. She hasn't realized that he has grown up.
Most parents want their kids to get married for the sole reason that they don't want them to be alone after they pass away. There is nothing more satisfying knowing that your child has someone to hold on to when you leave this world.
Sadly, Ishwari hasn't thought of that. She has assumed that she will always be there with Dev throughout his life.
And coming back to the shell created by her, for some people they just need small incidents to come out of it. And for some, it is drastic incidents.
Clearly Ishwari doesn't seem to budge with the small changes in her son (sadness, hurt, pain), so i am assuming it could only be incidents like hurting himself that would pull Ishwari out of her shell and realize how much Dev needs Sonakshi and vice versa.

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