28 aug '09: big things, little things - Page 3

Originally posted by: estee

If you have a time, lots of people requested on AT too. Its full show 3 parts on youtube😃

Originally posted by: Jyotix

please do it na😃😃. it will be super phun to read it.i was about to request for it but by twin(same name😃) did it

Originally posted by: estee

Hey E! My first time commenting on your bt, lt. Tell me how it goes. *prays* naturally, this show gave me a headache today. well, that's the least
that you expect after my head explodes 'cause they showed a fake shiv
mandir .. again?? lol. you are not the only one. do you have any idea how much hair i pulled out after seeing that very colorful, and not-so-premeer shiv mandir??! do you?? 😆<br>
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big thing: is always a misery when they start an episode with
the glob. oh joy.... what makes me really hurt is when she is talking about prem
and/or heer and you know you have to listen, no matter how nasty she is
being. except one thing that caught my attention. she is hoping that heer ''<font color="#3300ff">misunderstands</font>'' prem once again?? er... what's that??! if prem himself thought that he hadsexwithashlesha that night, what was the ''<font color="#3300ff">misunderstanding</font>'' that heer had about prem? i mean, it was the truth according to him, no? <br>
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this could mean two things: either ashlesha had planned the wholesexwithprem bit along with glob!😡 so glob knew that prem's and heer's hearts were being torn apart on a lie all along. or...
the creative forgot that noone else except ashlesha was supposed to
know what she had done. *sigh* anyone wants to bet which one might be
the truth on the show? <br>
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little thing: argh! it's fake shiv mandir again! argh! heer! why
do you accept the way of normal human beings, and accept what ever
weird shiv mandir they tell you to go to? you are the one who is fleet of foot -- run, heer, run! run to your real shiv mandir! please, heer? 😃<br>
heer thing: after days of patiently waiting through all the heer
presentation of pushing prem away, for the first time today, i admit
she came close to confusing me. in very many ways, in vast number of
things.<br>
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• first heer has had her eyes opened to .. what exactly?? that
  she was pointlessly pushing prem away? that prem still had great love
  for her? but... she has been seeing that all along right? why else did
  she think that prem was ''<font color="#3300ff">trying to come close to me</font>'' all this while if he didn't ... er ... love her? <br>
• second -- so heer has ''<font color="#3300ff">hamesha tumey nafrat ki</font>'' prem?? er...heer hate prem? always??! estee, this is an idiotic thing the creatives pointed out. Heer hating Prem! And that to for 6 years??! Didn't Heer herself said that she loved Prem, but TRUST was the isuue??! *confused muh*[/COLORS] in which bloomin' universe? i thought she herself had admitted that she still loved him, still
  cared about him in that second prem-heer meeting in her house when prem
  came back all the way from can-atta and got drenched in the rain.
  heer's feelings have always come across as an immense anger -- never hatred. as in the ramayan, sita never hated ram. she was just fiercely angry with him. 😕 seriously!
  this one word from heer about prem reminded me of the day that gaurav-mother told prem that he didn't have a hole (well, at least in
  his heart.. 😆) and he ... just stood there. 😕
• third -- what??? did heer know all along where prem was all these six years, or no?
• fourth -- er.. she says she hadn't forgiven him, when even god
  forgives a mistake once. um. ya. okay. so, what's new?? hasn't
  this been already told her several times?
• fifth -- oooo..'kay! so her eyes are opened all 'cause of ... gi-it! *<font color="#cc0066">sigh</font>* so why does she suddenly feel so much remorse about the prem-phukda angle??? *sigh* there was just tooo much ... stuff stuffed into this moment, and not enough time given to anything! *<font color="#cc0066">sigh</font>* why does it feel like some major obligation-burden-to-payback-gi-it is coming up rsn?? *<font color="#cc0066">sigh</font>* why does it feel like they're rushing to something just now?? 😕

big thing: ooooooooooh!!! ooooh, phlashbacks! and those phlashbacks! [COLOR=blue]how I loved the way you said 'those'. cause what an amazing flashbacks the creatives showed. *sigh* i remember how i wrote many bt,lts ago that i really hate
phlashbacks. I'm with you on this E. It was getting absolutely irritating to watch those same repeated ones. aaarrggghhh! and man, are they working on making me eat my words!! 😆<br>
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and y'know what? they suddenly made me remember i needed to add s'thing to <font color="#ff0000">soaps</font> ''<font color="#cc0066">bring 'em back andolan</font>'' post?? <font color="#3300ff">heer's pearl-hoop earrings</font>!!! i sooooo love them. and love them on her still. <br>
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big thing: *sigh* the script-writers in place today are such idea-sucking leeches on old scripts. <br>
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first time after the tls** they take that byoootiful ''<font color="#3300ff">aaj mein prem juneja</font>'' and completely trash it by having prem use those lines when he goes to heer and ''<font color="#3300ff">gives her away</font>'' indeed! the garbage chewing scriptwriters!! 😡and now? they take those byootiful lines for heer! this time, it was still fake! you know. if the creatives want to create the magic back, they should come with something NEW with their own 'creative' minds! aarrgghhh! stop stealing from vg dammit!<br>
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but i did think it was a .. more tolerable application. one thing that
made it so was that it was proof that even though young mr. prem juneja
had said those fantabulous lines in his mind and heart and soul, his
eyes had actually spoken those lines aloud to heer's ... and she had
heard them perfectly in her heart! 😍 😆 <br>
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it was also tolerable 'cause just like the first time, when it
came as prem's re-statement of his committment to heer after having
kept secrets from her, this time it was heer's re-statement of
her committment to prem after having kept secrets from him. so
'specially liked that she said ''<font color="#3300ff">mein qubool karti hoon ki...</font>'' that was really nice -- recommittment with a really nice difference from the first time. <br>
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and i actually loved her list of ''<font color="#3300ff">saakshi
mangkay'' things. ''yeh mandir. tumharey yaadey. tumharey vaadey. apni
chahat. uss bhagwan. uss bhagwan ki diyi hui vardaan</font>.'' isn't it lovely how in that list, there is god and... prem? 😍😍😍 *<font color="#cc0066">i don't count phukda 'cause she is prem-heer-ka-tukda. and that is ... prem</font>. 😆*<br>
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but it was soo not what it could've been! 'cause there were rotten things 'bout it too. <br>
the first rotten thing about this one was that prem was not there to
hear it, damnit! what is the point if he can't -- either directly or
through the language of prem-heer eyes??! and of course, the second
was the fact that heer said it was her hatred that was destroyed. and that almost totally killed the potential beauty of that confession of heer's to her god. <br>
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man! why must they abuse things that were infinitely beautiful in their
show before like this??? how can they butcher their own show?? 😲
it sooo irked the heck out of me. why the heck are these blood-sucking
garbage feeding scriptwriters so lazy that they can't come up with
something new?? are they really not being paid at all after this show
went to the afternoon slot?? 😕<br><br>
ag as heer thing: y'know? i've always said that just like hc
always gets prem right, ag always gets heer right. and even when there
have been times, that hc has played prem like he is sleep walking
through it (those days when prem kept telling heer that he was going
back to the gaurav-sharma mom) or when he was hip-hopping (😆 man,
hc was sooo confused then! poor guy...!! 😆), ag has never got heer
wrong.<br>
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today, for the first time, i think i saw ag play heer off-center. no,
not in how she played heer when she was being all contrite and
self-flagellatory and self-admonishing in her confession to her god.<br>
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but in her voice. in the past, whenever heer has ''<font color="#cc0066">spoken</font>''
to her god, whether in accusation, or in sorrow, or in anger, she has
always been ... quieter than she was today. somehow, in one part of the
heer-speech, i was taken aback in how fierce she was in speaking
to her god. I was quite surprised myself actually..... <br>
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or .. maybe that is how it should be. maybe people who are religious do
believe they can be so honest to their gods so as not to hide any
emotion?<br>
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whatever it was: i was taken aback. heer at shiv mandir has always had some of the best lines ever on this show. and today, it was not spectacular. not getting spectacular was a let down. <br>
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little thing: y'know? whatever it is that i feel about glob
lawyer, this must be said for him -- that his reactions to whatever
glob says is hilarious!! 🤣 I find him almost as entertaining as Bunty Walia. <br>
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seriously, didn't anyone else burst into laughter at the look on glob
lawyer's face when glob asked him what would happen if heer found out
that it was her not prem who opened the custody case... 🤣🤣<br>
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little thing: eeks. maya is still as sleazy as ever. she has no
qualms sending meher to find out what glob and glob-lawyer are
discussng. <br>
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bigger little thing: and meher has no brain to not go! i mean,
why in the heck didn't meher just pause a moment and ask ''<font color="#cc0066">hey, wait a minute! glob hates me and will snarl if i get them water. why don't you take them water instead, maya? please??</font>!'' but she didn't. *sigh* <br>
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ewww thing: glob screeching to glob lawyer that heer never leaves a single opportunity to run after prem.<br>
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er.. glob? news flash. er... the entire world wouldn't leave a single opportunity to run after prem. 🤣 is just that prem appears to prefer heer... 😆<br>
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stooopid script thing: argh! what was the point of that
little heer buying gajra in the windy side-street segment? what??! i mean, other than blow 2 minutes in the show?? seriously! 😛<br>
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but i must say. heer thinking about ''<font color="#3300ff">chahat-ki-papa</font>'' made me giggle loudly in a very silly way. *<font color="#cc0066">don't worry, i hit myself on the upside of my head quickly for that!</font> 😆* and the way she called out to the gajrey-wali aunty and asking for two gajra was sweet.<br>
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little thing: now maya calls glob ''<font color="#3300ff">black & white</font>''??! 🤣 why, why, 🤣why??? whatever the reason, it sounded ... funny!<br>
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little thing: omg! we get it, we get it! there are more
expressionless people on earth to play harman than mc! Seriously E! This Harman is a torture to watch. Who is the casting director of this show??! I soooo want to know! actually, i've
always liked mc as harman.. 😆 please, please, please -- mel says
she will be sorry she was mean if you will bring him back. *<font color="#cc0066">er, right, mel??</font>🤣 * or if you can't get mc back, please write harman out of the story, please?? 🤣<br>
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i mean, seriously! maya was right -- here she is squacking and
shrieking for him to take a look, and he just stands there and dopily
asks her what is happening. of course, maya could've told him. but then that would be soooo logical
and would leave my hair intact on my head, no? and the creatives would
be soooo unhappy if that were true.. 🤣<br>
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little thing: is gi-it still planning on marrying prem or not? Ermm....I hace actually started like this gi-it recently. But, if she still is planning on marrying Prem, then seriously. Never seen such a stoooopid person! aarrrggghhh! she BETTER know about premeer!! i want to know.. <br>
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it made me sad to think that heer actually came to gi-it's room
thinking that if she couldn't find prem anywhere else, she would find
him in gi-it's room? <br>
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big thing: 'cause the way gi-it described how prem left her --
without having the courage to look her in the eye -- doesn't it feel
like prem might be thinking he hashadsexwithgi-it??!! argh!!! oh, i
hope not! i soooo badly hope not! not again!!! <br>
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someone please enroll him quickly in some sex-education class where
prem can be taught what is and what is not possible under the influence
of drink... pleaaaaaaaase!E! This guy make have the looks, but definitely not the brains. Although you were drunk, you should ATLEAST have a vague memory of what happened the previous night, right??! And especially when you see your clothes still one! <br>
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little thing: er... is it important that heer had left the room before gi-it had finished speaking?Who wants to hear Gi-it ramble on anyway? <br>
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i mean, i liked the implication -- once she is back into
not-obsessing-about-keeping-prem-away from her, she is totally back
into getting-prem-back-to-her! (phew! thank goodness! i was sooooo missing that heer!😍 🤣).
gi-it could be telling her that she was dying of third stage leukemia
and still heer wouldn't have heard. after all, that would have nothing
to do with prem, na? 😆<br>
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but still -- should she have heard gi-it out? would it help her to understand anything that prem maybe planning on doing next? <br>
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big thing: heer runs off to pack her bags for delhi -- why?? oh,
not so that she can prepare for phukda's custody case! she is going
back to get prem! i burst out laughing. i soooo love heer's priorities in life. 🤣
and if i think about it, it's the right thing to do. once she gets
prem back, getting to keep phukda is soooo obvious, it's not even an
argument anymore, no??<br>
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man! what i love about this is that, for the first time, we are going
to get to see prem in a situation between heer and his mother where he
is soooooo gonna have to ... not choose his mother! prem is
going to have to redefine who his god is...He is! He is! He is! Yayyyy! GO PREM![/B] <br>
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i can seriously fiercely hardly wait to see how prem's gonna do this! *<font color="#cc0066">fiercely waiting muh</font>*<br>
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little thing: this is not even his own hotel, and he still gets
to sneak into heer's room and leave stuff for her -- in her cupboard no
less!! 😆<br>
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little thing: argh! why? why, why, why? are they now stuffing
this show with lots and lots of
prem-heer-kay-liye-pyar-kay-nishani's??! why? phukda is enough damnit!
🤣 or if you want more nishanis, can phukda get a brother(s)/sister(s) please? er.. soon? 😃<br>
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phhandooh thing: in a phlashback, tho sahi. that was a total <font color="#cc0066">phhandoooooooh</font>! with prem looking down at heer's hand!! 😍<br>
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and then came a <font color="#cc0066">pheyeoooooooooooooh</font>! oh my!!! 😍😍😍 [COLOR=blue]E, I toally loved Heer's eyes in this one. She sort of had a sex appeal in them, no?
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and wrapping up -- literally! -- with a <font color="#cc0066">phug</font>!
where prem's eyelashes draping his eyes in contentment, just as heer's
does... shutting out everything from the world except the pheeling of
her by his side... fitting cosy and tight... 😍<br>
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now i can die in peace!!! *<font color="#cc0066">thud</font>!*<br>
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*prem thing: but seriously, made me think: how many pyar-ka-nishani's does prem travel around with??? 😆 i mean, one of the things that made me splutter with laughter in that
scene when prem comes into heer-soni's room to leave the payal was
that, on a trip where he had come to collect ganga-jal for pbauji, he
had heer's payal with him! i mean! how absurd can that be?<br>
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and now, on this trip to ludhiana where he was soooo not expecting to meet heer, he had one of her bangles with him???<br>
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seriously, i want to know the size of the luggage that he carries with
him. does he have all of heer's stuff with him? like, all the time??! 🤣<br>
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prem voice thing: *sigh* how much do i love heer getting prem's
letters? we get to hear prem's voice. Even when this guy is NOT here, he still finds ways to send chills without his presence. sigh!! and that too saying ''<font color="#3300ff">heer</font>'' lots. <br>
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prem, it's a letter. you won't even be there to see her reaction. go ahead and say ''<font color="#3300ff">meri heer</font>'' darnit! 😍<br>
😆<br>
but y'know what really made me go 😍 about the letter? everything
heer had told him the previous day had apparently ''broken'' him. he
was no longer the same prem, 'cause she was no longer the same heer,
and all that jazz?<br>
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and yet, today, everything's back to normal. he calls her ''<font color="#3300ff">meri heer</font>''. *<font color="#cc0066">yes, he did! stubborn muh</font>*
he is back to doing whatever she says will make her most happy -- him
staying away and she keeping phukda with her. and to ensure all this,
he will go -- nay! flee! 😆 -- to delhi to find out who is the evil
behind the custody case.Sigh!! That is soooo Prem. After all the hatred, accusations ettc. Heer threw at Prem....he still wants her live a happy life. Even without him being in the picture. Sigh! <br>
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hmm. prem.. love saying things-that-you-will-absolutely-not-stick-with much? 😆<br>
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little thing: i had a vague sense of foreboding when he talked
about not caring if he's not with her, as long as she has a part of him
with her. why does that sound like a future without prem for heer
coming up? 😛<br>
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highlight of the episode: no shaq -- the
phhandooh-pheyeooh-phug! even though it had no other reason for
existing other than to make me happy. personally, i also liked how
heer said that ''<font color="#3300ff">aaj mein heer juneja...</font>'' *<font color="#cc0066">loved how she says that soooo easily... as if there has never been any other name for heer juneja..</font>. 😍* and young mrs. juneja's list of saakshi-mangney things -- which were basically, god and prem...😍 soooo much more simple and straight that young mr. juneja long and complicated list which included his darned parents!! 😆<br>
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*<font color="#cc0066">sigh</font>* w&w-ing. until one day they
really get my head to explode with more poopy shiv-mandir and heer
saying that she hated prem. <br>
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** tls: time line shift of six years

Originally posted by: estee

sumi!!! 🤗 i'd forgotten your store of fabulous emos! i so love that surprised one... 😆
E!.Me too loved it..😆

*sigh* me too. i keep having to remind myself that we really have not yet seen heer's side of the story so far.

i mean, just 'cause she said that she has ''always hated prem'' doesn't really mean that is the whole and only story, no? as that corny line goes, ''picture abhi baki hai, meri dost''. 😆
😆Ya I know..Its just the waiting that is killing me..We are waiting since 2 months to understand the whole thing..as u say it, to understand what exactly happened 6 yrs ago..and we are not getting any answers...Sigh!u r right..we have not been shown the (complete) heer's side of the story!

*sigh* and i don't. but i know she is going to.

y'know? in all the time that they have been together, prem has gone through several instances of ...well, ''hurting'' heer -- always inadvertantly, of course. and he doesn't always apologise -- 'cause he knows that heer understands.
E! you have put this so nicely...🤗Sigh! deep sigh!

and now, even though i know heer is going to go all apologetic to prem -- dunno how -- but giving phukda upto him might be one of the things that she will end up doing? i would seriously like her not to have to. i would seriously like prem to treat her so that she won't even feel the need to have to.
Ya..I want her to apologize but not by giving phukda to him..then it will not make sense..it always makes sense only and only when prem-heer are together..She only needs to remove that hurt from his heart by being , well, by being just heer, her prem's heer...That is apology enough!Rest everything will fall back into place.

have phun, sumi...
yup! you too..