wtf - 27 jun - warning: terrifyingly long :s

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hey, welcome to the wtf -- the weekend thoughts feature! 😕 why? what did you think it was?? *sigh* no,no, i don't really want to know... 😆 go the the corner, for an hour. oh, and (bee, this is for you!) ''finger on your lips''. 🤣

so! eventful week, no? although some of it confusing. and some of it maddening. and now there's an article that the tls (a time line shift 😆) happens from monday. that it's going to be many years on. that there are going to be kids involved. 😲 oh, what to be wtf-ing today??! i thought of figuring out where we stand in the show today. but i think not very far from the last wtf, no?
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1200238
so i thought this wtf, i'm just gonna wt about the people on this show.

wtf#1: let's get the nasty out of the way first, shall we? gaali-maa. who is she today?

it was very curious what she told herself at the end of friday's show, no? apologising to prem in that cold calculating way; thrilled that heer was not there in the house, the town anymore? who is she now?
  • with heer out of the way, is she going to get back to being true mother to prem? will she wish for his true happiness, a love to take care of him? or will she bite to make sure there will never be another girl to be there for prem? i think she will not -- 'cause i think gaali-maa knows prem enough to know that no other girl will have his heart like heer did. i think she'll want to get prem a girl -- 'cause i think she will still want a little child of prem's. *'kay, now i've seriously made myself feel sick.. 🤢*
  • the biggest sign that she differentiates between step-son and son? that she's not going to get meher kicked out of the house despite meher being the dreaded murderer's sister. 🤢
  • will she now let vitchface's ashes get immersed? what else is left for her to achieve for vitchface's soul????
wtf#2: lalit juneja -- lj. what 'bout him?

y'know? lj is a strange character to understand today. i got him in the first days of the show. he was a guy who built up an entire career on a gift from his dearest friend. and obsessed about making sure that debt was repaid. to the point of considering his son the repayment!

after that, what has this guy been about? i dunno. is it keeping his house and family together? which he clearly - at several places - abdicated to prem and heer. abdicated to such an extent that he refuses to even clearly take charge of his wife and her twisted thinking, despite knowing what he knows! i thought he is playing the role of the family elder -- guiding choices at times of confusion. but here? he bowed his head before his wife's hysteria and said not a word.
was that 'cause of his own guilt? at not having managed his daughter's life better? did he do that thinking that it was a fitting punishment to see his beloved prem and heer break up 'cause he didn't deserve the happiness of having them be happy and whole? *quite selfish considering that they could've been happy...*

today, lj confuses me. and what was most confusing was the friday show -- where he publicly castigates prem for infidelity. and then privately urges him to get heer back. what was that??! are prem and his father faking the public front 'cause they both know that gaali-maa is thirsting for heer's blood?? *shaking head to clear it, and deciding to go to the next character.*

* wtf#3: harman ''bharat'' juneja. ow-ch! y'know? i was sure that he would stand up for prem this time. not that he was asked, of course. but ... well, i hope harman was ''faking'' that dark browed look he threw at prem before urging maya to go away with him. seriously.
and maya? what of her? she seemed curiously muted and unusually gentle after vitchface's death, no? i'm loath to write on her, 'cause well, other than that rather sweet moment with preet, we didn't really see much of her? and with heer out of the picture, is she going to feel sorry for prem? i don't think of maya as someone who had depth of character enough to feel regret. but maybe, she can feel pity? pity at someone whose heart has been cut out - apparently by himself?

* wtf#4: nihaal maan. hmmm. now, there is a character who actually went through an interesting change this last set of weeks, no?

nihaal went from being a total carpet-for-vitchface to someone who setup-drama to win her heart by pushing competition into her face. i'm amazed nihaal actually figured vitchface enough out to know what would work to get her. and also amazed that he never tried it earlier! 😆 and while i was not able to feel very sad about vitchface's totally stooooopid attempt to get nihaal. i was totally touched by the pathos of nihaal's rosy happiness at finally being able to live in love with vitchface burning to ashes in that fire that she set up. isn't it funny how even in the end, vitchface and her stooopidity managed to kill nihaal's happiness?? i guess they were just not meant to be... *hey! this is the story where the central pair was created together by the stars! i can say such things and not sound like an idiot! er... no? 😆*

so, i thought his character today was spot on -- he has given up caring 'bout everything -- including his own sister's happiness. or maybe not. maybe nihaal has seen the madness in gaali-maa's eyes, recognised that it cannot be quenched by his trying to convince her that he had nothing to do with vitchface's abortion, or her death. and if he recognised that, he would also have recognised that removing himself out of the picture can actually give heer and meher a better shot at happiness?

i hope they don't remove nihaal from the story. he has actually been quite an interesting character. entering as a random person in the bus that killed his parents. leaving before he could give them their papers and their message. then, re-appearing as prem's right hand man. then as someone pining for vitchface. as a son to beeji. 😆 then as vitchface-offender and so, enemy according to the juneja boys. finally as saviour to vitchface's honour according to lj. an unusual life in the story. but i wonder what role he gets to play next...

* wtf#5: ashlesha... only one thing to say. she was a mean ditzy character at the start. with enough intelligence to switch sides when she saw how she could get preet to love her. and never quite losing her meanness as we got to see on friday.

what i can't forget is the insanity of how everything just ''worked out right'' for her break-prem-heer-are-one plan. *in your dreams, you delusional-duck! when did you shift from drink to drugs, you ... dumbo? 😡* was she getting info about where heer was from gaali-maa in this? don't tell me that gaali-maa has now adopted ashlesha-the-delusional-drugged-duck??? 'cause does that mean we will be seeing her in the show after tls??? given that the juneja men will almost certainly think she is dirt, she can't be working at the hotel, no?

unless - oh, horrid thought! - gaali-maa takes back heer's ownership rights and gifts it to ashlesha instead? as the the one who has ''won'' her prem's ... uh... her prem's.... um. well, her prem. 🤣 wonderful, just wonderful...
gaaah! i soooo don't want ashlesha in this show - unless she comes back with dirtchachi to reclaim property rights to jzoo! and kicks the junejas out! now that might actually be super cool!! 😛

* wtf#6: what is it with the bad guys and all their indirect targetting? when ratpal wanted to get at prem, he did it through heer. when gaali-maa/gementor wanted to hurt heer, she did it through prem. when delusional-as-a-drunk-duck ashlesha wanted to hurt heer, she did it through prem.

in ratpal's defence, there was clear merit behind his trying to get at prem. gaali-maa and ashlesha are delusional-as-drunk-ducks when they want to hurt heer! or do bad guys always want to destroy the epitome of goodness first?? it is soooooo odd that neither of them even consider meher! and it gets really absurd for ashlesha! delusional-duck! 😡

* wtf#7: kiran and kuldi. gosh, where have these two vanished to?? kuldi was such a support to heer during the last fracas that gaali-maa pulled on separating prem and heer. and she was sooo obviously missing this time around! will she have shifted out of the show after tls?

no matter what, i think she will stand by prem -- even if she will constantly berate him for having been such a phool! and she will keep in touch with heer too -- there was a really lovely connection between these two, which i don't think distance will break.

kiran was to have started a business -- maybe it has started doing well, and kuldi persuaded lj that they should really get their own place? *sigh* whatever. in these troubled times, if they didn't have a role to play, wonder what they can do after tls... 🤔

* wtf#8: meher juneja. where does she stand? hmmm. lemme see. she is clearly
  • pro-preet 😆
  • anti-prem?
  • indifferent-to-harman?
  • pro-juneja as her inlaws.
  • pro-heer. but not as much as she is pro-junejas. 'cause she will stay in her husband's house. actually it's possible that heer will persuade her to do so, too, no?
i can't imagine that she will not keep in touch with both nihaal (quietly) and heer (maybe openly?). so everyone (preet, harman, lj) will know heer's life and matters 'cause of meher, no?

* wtf#8: preet juneja. the (god) of smiles, missing in action.

i miss preet. this was such a troublesome time for the junejas -- it was desperately odd to not have him around. i remember when they had him during the preparations for heer's b'day party -- and just having him on screen made such a happy difference.

first i thought: preet will stand solidly and firmly behind prem-bhaiya, even though he will think of him as a phool. but then i wondered: preet and heer had such a terrific connection that built up -- particularly during prem's ''apparent death''. if he thought that she was out there all alone, would preet actually leave jzoo with meher and go live with heer bhabhi instead??? he is certainly the type to do it... oooh. what a thought! 😍 i think it could be a real possibility! 'specially if...

*sigh* 'specially if prem is still at jzoo, to look after his father and the family's affairs. and then, i fretted: who would be on prem's side at jzoo? other than that dark stepmother gaali-maa? whose very presence would be corroding his soul. other than lj who looks miserably weak. suddenly, i couldn't figure out whether i wanted preet to be cheering up his pb, or his hb. 😔

which brings us to those who really matter - prem and heer juneja.

wait, lemme go reserve the posts below... i need two. hey! i did put the warning that this was gonna be long, no??! 😳
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* wtf#9: prem juneja.

y'know? i asked in the pre-bt,lt of 06/26/09 whether prem couldn't possibly know whether he hadsexwithashlesha. and while it was phun seeing the variety of answers that i got, that bounced (in typical phorum phasion! 😆) all over the place! 🤣, i had a couple of other reasons for asking.

mostly 'cause think that i cannot accept prem having let heer go for such a reason! 'cause that's what i think he has done -- let her go. personally, i think it's bull-poop that prem doesn't know nothing happened between himself and ashlesha. i don't think a guy can not know. so! i think the misery on prem's face was. not. just. guilt 'bout havingsexwithashlesha. i think it went deeper. i think he's miserable 'cause of other things too:
  • i think prem knows that gaaali-maa's out for heer's blood. remember when heer pretended to faint to not go with him. prem walked out all resolved to figure out what was bothering her. and that didn't happen just once -- we saw prem resolved to find out what was bothering heer more than that? and i think he figured out that heer was being jerked 'round by gaali-maa. now being prem, he wouldn't ever go tattle-tale on gaali-maa. remember when they were in the kasauli log cabin, he told heer that she was not to think badly about his mother?? but he has probably tried many ways of ''showing gaali-ma'' that heer and prem cannot break just like that. but i like to think he was worried when gaali-maa kept trying to make heer's life miserable. and he was worried on how to shield heer from gaali-maa's hate.
  • i think prem was feeling desperately guilty for having blown up on heer in public. i think - before the stoooopid ashlesha stunt -- he might have faked the blowup just to push heer out of his life? if he had, then it was a good fake. but he didn't have to try very hard to be miserable in front of her. 'cause either which way -- faking or not -- that must have been the hardest thing prem ever did, rip into heer like that.. to push her away from him. to make her walk away from him..
so i think that - if this show was one that tried for smart good guys - prem must've actually been happy that delusional-as-a-drugged-duck ashlesha actually pulled this stunt. 'cause it has made his job of getting heer to get out of gaali-maa's hatred much easier.

of course, the one place that i've always been wrong with these shows was when i tried to figure out a smart reason for some dumb thing that the good guys do. and i'm guessing this action of prem's will not break my track record in being wrong either. but. hey! one can always live in hope, right? 😆

'cause it was that misery on prem's face when he decides to respect heer's requets to leave her alone that made me stop in thinking that prem had faked it. he was actually going to let her go. if prem had faked that act, would he not have gone with heer? 'cause obviously he wants to be with heer. and the prem who wouldn't let heer go with muckmeet, could'nt have just let her leave like that?

*sigh* i guess i was waiting for a revisit to the 06/18/08 moment here. that day, prem stood between heer and the world and took her into himself and declared they are one. i thought he'd do that again on friday -- stand in heer's face and shake her and tell her that they are one, and that he would go to any corner of the world to give her back her trust and her sense of respect -- as long as he could do it with her. *sigh* but apparently? he didn't.

* wtf#10: heer juneja. oh heer. poor miserable feeling-betrayed heer.

i must admit, i felt sorriest for heer at the end of all my wtf-ing. y'know why? 'cause i think that ever since the 06/18/08 moment, when heer was rescued from the trap that her parents+elders put her into with muckmeet; when heer had asked her parents to send her a pharishta, and he had come and rescued her sister and her, to that little chawl where they all happily made a home; heer had bowed her head and accepted prem as her ''ram''.

and today as i sit writing this, i realise that - in the depths of her heart - she is a very traditional girl. who looked at prem, saw her saviour from the stars, sent to her by god and her parents, and decided that he would never do any wrong. after all, prem was her ram! more than to anyone else -- lj, preet -- for heer prem was ram. the guy who could never do anything wrong. heer, who looked at prem that night they entered into their chawl home and wondered how she could ever repay the debt he had wrung from her soul.

and from that day, she chose to never go against prem, to question him. to always think about his happiness. above all else.

* wtf#10.1: btw, i think that this belief of heer's may explain one thing that has been bothering me about prem -- why he has never pushed heer to talk to him, tell him what is bothering her.

i think it is 'cause when heer looked at prem, what he could see shining in her eyes was her belief that he was her ''ram'' - her perfect guy. if he was her ram, how he could ever do anything to stop her believing it? and maybe if he asked her for justification of her actions, or forced her to open up to him, he would stop being the perfect guy? that she would no longer look at him that way? 😕 poor prem. how was he to know that there was a limit to how much he could take by way of heer's hiding from him?

'cause - before gaali-ma made her do it -- heer has been incredible in how she has worshipped her ram, prem, no? when he wasn't there, she made him up in her head and her heart - no matter what happened in life, her pharishta never left her. ever. prem left everyone else - but heer never let him leave her. in her darkest hour -- when prem manages to convince her that he is hip-hop and not prem -- she goes back to the prem in her head and her heart and lives with him, while next to her bed, hip-hop prem slept on a sofa. when she had to put the religious thread thingamajigi on him, prem's heartbeat shook and stirred, but heer? heer was still with the prem in her head and heart. and when she found out that hip-hop was prem, even then...

she didn't really question his actions, his deeds, his words -- only why he wouldn't share all of those too with her. unlike prem, heer has no trouble forcing prem to come to her, open up to her, be with her. she has clung to him in her head and her heart, even during the recent dark times when she was being pulled away from him by his dark mother gaali-maa's dark intentions. when he asked her to leave him, she clung to him blindly. and didn't even allow him the luxury of feeling the guilt.

when she was forced to lie to him by the promise the dark mother gaali-ma asked of her, she clung to him even while lying. even when she accused him of not doing the right thing by her brother, she called him to dinner every evening and laid out his pajamas for him at night.

and when i watched her as she sat on the bench in the train station, and heard her question prem -- omg, for the first time ever! -- ''if it had been me, would you've forgiven me, prem?'' and that voice hurt. 'cause for the first time ever, heer is questioning prem, doubting the part of him that makes up prem-heer-are-one. and if one part of prem-heer-are-one questions the other, for me that is ... scary. it is. 🤔

the first time she declared that he was wrong in his judgement was in the matter of her brother. but that? that was prem making an error in judgement about someone else -- not prem-heer-are-one. and there too - she thought that he was being misled by the ''neighbour's evidence''. and because - as she explained in a distracted way to ashlesha who accused prem of just walking away! - gaali-ma was ''not feeling well'' 'cause of vitchface's death. that ashlesha should not think badly of either prem or gaali-maa. heer!!! *i remember prem asking heer not to be ''soo good; it makes me feel even worse in my guilt'' - sigh. me? i just wished that heer didn't love prem so well... * and then of course, when his accusing her of poopy infidelity at the restaurant broke her resolve to never do anything to hurt prem.

but apparently even that wasn't enough to make her want to abandon prem-heer-are-one. so easily was heer swayed by the argument from ig-idiot and lj that prem was hurt, and made a wrong decision. but that she couldn't abandon the family 'cause prem was hurt -- she immediately put prem in the right and went to seek him and bring him home again.

* wtf#10.2:
btw, that irritated me. 'cause when lj said she should stay for the family, i thought -- why? why shouldn't she abandon the family???

after all, it's been prem has always wanted heer. but this family? this family has always had someone or the other who hasn't wanted heer! first it was lj -- who may have done it unknowingly - but he did do it! he didn't want the love of his son's life in the house! then, there was vitchface veeranwali. then there was shrimp maya the bahu. and now there is dark mother gaali-maa. this house has never ever whole-heartedly wanted heer. and i'm glad, glad, glad that she is leaving it. i loved it when she said ''i am breaking all relationships with this house'' when she dumped ''his stuff'' at his feet. i am glad she is leaving jzoo...

but..... *sigh* if only she would take prem with her. if only she would acknowledge that she helped making the pit that made him fall. that it was she who made him a ram, and then helped gaali-ma to break ram's feet. and to make him fall... heer. i get that you are tired of feeling you've been fighting this fight by yourself --
  • sometimes 'cause of choices that you did not make: like when prem decided to stay with gaurav-sharma's family and you had to deal with all the juneja-ratpal poop yourself, and then with the hole-in-the-hea[d/rt] poop yourself.
  • but sometimes 'cause of choices you made! i mean, the push came from gaali-maa, but the choice was yours.
but if you can accept that prem humiliated you in public 'cause he was hurt by the web of lies that you wove, and forgive him his volcanic outburst, then how can you abandon prem 'cause of his havinghadsexwithsomeoneelse?? that's not love. that's not prem-heer-are-one. that's not something big enough to wipe out 06/18/08 -- is it, heer? is it?

and so we come to the most important thing --

* wtf 11: prem-heer-are-one.

i guess what was the best thing was prem's pure conviction in the end that heer will come back to him, and he would wait for her. that was the most beautiful thing prem has said in ever so long. in fact, if i think 'bout it, it flows so naturally from ''prem aur heer ek hai. ek hai prem aur heer.'' of 06/18/08.

'cause just like it felt then that prem had actually heard heer's prayers asking for a pharishta that night, and answered her prayers, holding her firmly to his side at the mandap.

now? it felt like now heer was leaving a prayer for prem-heer-are-one with prem again. in the payal that fell from her hand. a prayer -- saying that she was weary, she was battle-worn, that she hasn't had peace of mind in the longest time. and that she needed him to keep the faith -- this time, by himself, while she got back her bearings? in that glance that she threw back at him, there was no sense of heer dumping prem-heer-are-one, no? no matter what she said, in her deeds, didn't it feel like a prayer to keep prem-heer-are-one safe?

so was it any wonder that prem answered with a prayer of his own: ''that he will wait for her to come back to him.'' 😍 *sigh* isn't it wonderful how prem always knows just what to say? *sigh* i hope heer heard his reply before she left... 😍

* wtf#12: the time line shift.

hmm. so. heer lives a life separate from prem, huh? for 6 years? time enough for nihaal to come out of jail?

who else thinks that prem knows everything 'bout heer during this time? i mean, prem kept tabs on heer even during the time that he was ''apparently dead''. of course, he will know everything about heer -- and therefore, 'bout his child -- if indeed they have one, no?

i mean, even if he wasn't keeping tabs -- this is the guy who cries when tears come into heer's eyes. and i'm told that labour induces major pains -- and major amount of tears. man, is prem going to be crying buckets some night, no?? i hope no-one else's watching -- else they are gonna get soooo freaked out! 🤣

prem will have photographs of every stage of the little one growing up. he will know what grades she gets in school. what her favourite colour is. everything.

for a moment, i wondered if heer will have allowed him into her baby's life -- but then figured: naah, if she's mad(e) at him not to stay with him, she's probably not gonna let baby meet him as daddy. well, not yet, anyway, no?

gosh! am i curious about monday's show or what???

since there's a lot of praying going 'round 😆 and i've got some requests for prayers, the next post is ... for prayers!

gosh this is long! i hope if.com lets me post it... *ooops! yet another prayer!! 😆*
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so i have one thing to end the wtf-ing with:

* wtf#13: a wish for a better told story?

we're watching a story, no? a story of ''eternal'' love. and when i first started watching this show and came to the phorum and read all the discussions 'bout prem dying and stuff, i thought that eventually it would become like ''ghost story'' or s'thing. well, thanks to balaji telefilms, it wasn't -- prem came back. 😆

and i thought 'bout all the stories like this one -- where the two people who fall in love -- continue to be in love for the rest of their lives whether they are together or not.

for some reason, my favourite is ''wuthering heights''. it's the most depressing depiction of ''eternal love'' ever. 😆 seriously!
  • catherine and heathcliffe. who fight against social odds and fall in love. but they can't fight against society and live together.
  • and man! do they make society pay for not allowing them to!
  • they marry different people -- have children with different people -- and destroy them all! husband, wife, children -- catherine and heathcliffe destroy practically everything/everyone their lives are entwined with!
  • and in the end, death is what gets them together again... basically catherine-heathcliffe-were-one. but they never ever got a chance to be-one in life.
i don't think this is that story. here prem-heer got a chance to be together -- despite a lot of things going against them. and became the most beautiful love story that i've ever seen. despite all the glitches, their victory and oneness became the love story that i saw. but just when i thought they'd fought against everyone to be together, we were given a new enemy for prem-heer-are-one. and now we are in one more fight for prem-heer-are-one.

funny thing is? i'm miserable they have to do the fight all over again! i really don't get this entire time-line-shift thing. nor do i understand why we couldn't just have had prem switch on his thinking side of the brain, make a partnership with heer and fight off all the bad goons. where the good guys win - again - and the bad guys lose - again!

if we are given all that was said, all that happened, and not have an instant discovery of the bad deeds of the bad guys, then i'm not sure that i want heer to ever go back to prem. or prem to ever try to reach out to heer. if we have to stretch it out, i'm beginning to think that ram and sita got it right on how they spent the rest of their lives after ram chose to ... um ... remove sita from his life. and that would fit prem and heer, given the deep-down proud people that prem and heer are. remember how difficult it was for prem meeting heer the last time he forcibly asked her to leave? but
  • 'cause of everything that prem and heer have done so far.
  • and 'cause we are not stuck in the olden times, when there was all these rigid social structures and ideas of the place in life for men vs. the place in life for women, with limited choices for women and all that poop. and
  • 'cause prem is not a king-god and heer is not a queen-goddess, both of whom followed some strict rules of dharma. but rather are young, red-blooded, insanely-in-love, prem-heer-are-one people,
and yet... i'm fiercely glad they will get a chance to be together, have a life together -- unlike catherine and her heathcliffe. 'cause prem-heer-are-one have fought much more courageously against society and life-n-death than any other of these characters i know.

so i will swallow my irritation with this tls*** and w&w what monday's show will tell us 'bout prem and his heer and prem-heer-are-one. but 'cause they promised us a tls and a new life for our show-pholk, i'd like to give thanks. one last time. 'cause i don't know if this show will need a preetstess going forward. and if this is to be the last time, i figure, let's do a blast of a job with it, no? 😃

yo, divine creatures of power and grace,
towards us, please turn your face,
we'd like to make eyecontact as we give thanks
for all wonderful prem-heer-are-one things in our memory banks. 🤣

since we have already hung 'round too long at this prayer hall,
we're not gonna give thanks for all prem-heer-are-one things big and small,
instead we hope it's okay if we focus
on my top ten things in the prem-heer magical hocus-pocus!

oh, but before that we put in one small little plea
that prem-heer's child's name veera shall not be??? 🤣

10. was the day prem called heer to the shiv mandir .. to promise that he would leave anyone who came between prem and heer.
9. was the day prem picked up heer's payal first at shiv mandir.

8. was the night that preet and meher got prem and heer to meet - and they danced in spite of gementor's wishes.
7. was the night that heer got prem to confess he was he, and both curled up around each other as she told him that people spend a lifetime for a moment of love, but that they will fill a life of love in one moment of life most delicious.

6. was the night of ''aaj mein prem juneja, inn hawaon ko sakshi mankay..''
5. was 9/11/08 😆, when prem-heer made us shake with an almost-kiphph that ended with ''...anday, heer, anday''! 🤣

4. was the night that prem said ''prem aur heer ek hai'', that ended in the episode that must not be named.
3. was the day that prem said ''kyunki mein tumsey pyar karta hoon!'' when of duplicity and false promises, heer prem blamed. (ow, ow, ow! 🤣)

2. was the night heer taught prem how to do a raasta roko and made prem realise that this was his forever-after lover. 😍
1. was the night heer gave herself into jail, to save prem from disgrace, making prem ask ''tumney aisa kyun kiya?'' for the first time ever.

this the preetstess of the god of smiles offers,
most humbly from her limited coffers,
these prem-heer-are-one moments, golden and true,
how they will beat these, i really have no clue.

but then, humble preetstess have learnt that theirs is not to question why,
but instead that theirs is to pray and die,
quiet deaths, with both pleasure and pain,
'cause that's the effect of prem-heer-are-one moments on the brain. 😆

so, for all those who are here, standing small, standing tall,
i hope you have earned peace and strength to forestall,
any fears that you may have that tomorrow you will find,
prem-heer-are-one will fail and you will be left, berefit in a world, cold and unkind,
'cause with these memories, strengthening our belief
in prem-heer-are-one, we will strive forth, w&w until they unite once again, and bring us relief!

and even though, preetstess' usually focus on the (gods) of smiles,
today, we say our all hail, all hail, all hail and more hails,
in one raised voice, we seriously accept,
that prem-heer-are-one is the one truth that has always been kept!

all hail, prem-heer-are-one!
all hail, prem-heer-are-one!
all hail, prem-heer-are-one!
and with that, we are done!

*wiping forehead with delicate muslin handkerchief that preetstess' mom pal brought from turkey, and hoping that our prayers will be heard across the sky, upto the stars from whence came forth prem-heer-are-one.*

of course, if any of you i displeased with my particular selection of the 10, please tell me and i'll custom-make your prayers with your list of the 10, before sending it up to the stars! 😃 yup, we preetstess' have such cool powers. we may be the preetstess of the (god) of smiles. but that does give us some special access rights to the brother and sister of the (god)s... cool, na??! 😎

so this is it from me -- your humble preetstess from this era of prem-heer-are-one. i guess i'll meet you again in the dawning of the next era soon? see you... *wondering if it's acceptable to the temple goers is the preetstess struts as she walks 'round... 😆*

***: before i could get too irritated, i reminded myself that smits (sshekar, author of destiny) also had a tls in her story! well, if smits can do it... then it must be okay to have a tls. so go ahead, creatives. you have my blessings now... 😆 let's have more prem-heer-are-one! thank you. 😃
Edited by estee - 16 years ago
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excellent and well thought out analysis..........loved it
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You signed out without completing this?? E! *wails and tears at hair*

Love,
Radz

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E!! You left!?! E! *bangs head against wall* (oh, I need Anita, my HBP, for this) *sigh* I'll wait.

Since you said 'finger on your lips', i jus HAVE to retaliate with... 'but I can talk like this!'. *sigh* hc-ag! *sigh* Btw, you wait.. soon I'll have you talking hc-ag lingo.

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Hiya E! 😃
You know...I thought and thought and decided that the Friday episode was kinda ok so I am going to use the innocent version of the wtf...thank you.
#1 - Aggh!! Gaali-ma...what to say about her? I am so so disappointed with that woman!! And we used to wonder where Vitchface got her mean streak from!
You are right..she is going to get Prem with another girl. She knows he will not feel a fraction of what he feels for Heer for this "person"...but that way Gaali-ma can continue with her charade of being caring towards Prem...and yet have him under her control.
I have to make mention here about DJ. Remember the Heer-Muckmeet and Prem-Ash engagement where she made the accusation to Gaali-ma about not being a good mother? That led to the scene with Prem & Gaali-ma that is etched in my memory forever. I recall her words she threw at Gayatri about why she wanted Prem to marry Heer...and when I think about it now, sort of makes sense, no? Except that it got very twisted somewhere along the line... or maybe I am reading too much into this...🤔
Really...I will wait for the day when this Gaali-ma suffers for all she has put Prem and Heer through! Aggh!

#2 LJ - He is seriously messed up!! I mean when he was against Prem marrying Heer..I understood him, because it was his friend's last word he was so concerned about! And cannot fault him in his treatment of Heer and Meher...even when he thought Heer was wrong in marrying RR. But this time...I am completely at a loss to understand him!! Why did he not speak up and help Heer? And I don't believe that about him and Prem faking...I am staying away from the faking theories for the time being!😉

#3 Harman - He seems to be really making an effort not to stir the pot, so to speak, hasn't he? Even let Shrimp leave! I think in the ensuing years, we will see him stepping into Prem's shoes....at his brother's request...why do I see that happening?
With the shrimp...I think she is badly shaken up with Vitchface's death....I am going to w&w to see how she turns out post tls...

#4 Nihaal - I feel the most sorry for him! He loved a self-centered woman and just when that was getting sorted out...she had to go kill herself in the most stupid way ever!! And taking the fall for her death...yep, I completely agree..that at this point he does not care what happens to him or his sisters for that matter...he is a broken man. I wish he heals and moves on soon.... well...at least 6 years later!

#5 Ashlesha - &^&%^$^)(&&^^$##@@$#%$#@$
I think that says all I feel about her! 😡 How...I mean How did Preet marrying Meher become Heer's doing??? That was the silliest pathetic excuse she could come up with for breaking Prem and Heer! And why do I think that Gaali-ma was not hand in glove with her..? Maybe later they will pair up...but not now I think....

#7 - LOL! Kiran and Kul di...for some reason...I couldn't care about them just yet! Although, I get the feeling that Kul di might be the one to keep in touch with Heer in the next 6 years...

#8 Meher - She was always very quiet and non-confrontational, no? Not really willing to topple the apple cart, so to speak? I am going to have to wait and watch to see how she is going to be after...

#8 Preet - Ooh, Preet. He has been missing coz of his new show...I have been watching it and it is really sweet! Aww...yeah, I think, if push came to shove, he would be on Heer's side...on this issue...than PB...dunno why I think that.
All this really really makes me feel so bad for Prem...he is going to be surrounded with family and yet all alone. Whereas Heer...at least she will have their daughter..if what I am reading is all true!

#9 Prem - You know...if he really was doing all this to keep Heer away from Gaali-ma...that will be something! I am keeping faith in you and hope hat Prem is not going to let you down! 😉

#10 Heer - ooh.I am so sad for her too. One thing I do have to agree with you is that Heer is the one who has kept the Prem-Heer-are-one thing alive for us. Prem has too...but we haven't really seen that, have we? I can so understand that she is worn out right now and that she needs to recharge her "prem-heer-are-one" batteries..away from everything and come back with more conviction and faith than before. I so so believe that...🤔 And for Prem...it will be a lesson...to see that he could have everyone in his life...but as long as Heer is not around, Prem will always lead a half life...
And the sad part is...I blame both of them...Prem & Heer equally for the plight they are in...not one more or the other less! That alone makes them so one...that it's not even funny!😆

**sigh** I do agree..that they need a better story telling technique!!
LOL! Yeah I had a TLS in Destiny...and yes, all issues were not resolved in my story then. Time is sometimes the best healer. But in this case, I think the creatives ran out of story...too any cooks spoiling the broth, so to speak. By taking a leap...it is almost as if they are starting afresh...I sincerely hope that they resolve the issue they have left hanging pre-TLS...and jerk us around a little less by taking one track at a time and solving it before starting the next.
I dunno why...I felt very positive after the Friday epi...that it will turn out well in the end...it has to...coz Prem-Heer are one!!
🤗 Did I tell you I love you?? I do...lots and lots!! 😃 Take care...

Ooh, I am so late with Destiny this week...I think I will post tomorrw...😲




Edited by sshekar - 16 years ago
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E superb!! good points..im actually feeling better about monday!
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Estee wonderful post I can't reply in detail right now but I can't get over the grief

I am extremly sad I can't believe heer is going to punish prem for so long for a mistake the duffer did not even make ... I agree she is very hurt but that duffer has loved her and only her with all his heart yes he made mistakes but he still loved only her how could she say that he now belongs to someone else? Does she not know he is incapable of belonging to someone else cause he belongs only to heer even before he was born? That's why I hav become a it shaky abt premeer are one ... Will heer really keep away their child from prem does he really deserve to be punished so much? Was his mistake really this big I wanna lnow 'sniff' poor prem poor heer they are so one in their poorness no?

Oh and I.don't think prem faked anything till now I thought he was but now with leap I don't think so cause if he was faking he woildnt stay away from her for this long.

Another question will heer ever realise that a part of it was her fault too will she? If she would why won't he forgive him all these years? If she won't why not?
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I am with Nadia too, I am extremly sad too I can't believe heer is going to punish prem for so long. She should of ask ash because she was not drunk. But we can't blame heer or Prem, these creatives😡.

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