i'm not sure i should be writing this bt,lt. 'cause i didn't really see a lot of the show... mom's friends were on the couch and i was on the floor at mom's knee in front of the tv. and i fell asleep! *embarrased muh* i woke up when they were getting up to start dinner.
and in the show, that was when pre... the guy was glaring at heer for promising gayatri-mom a little prem??? of course, allsleep instantly fled from my head in a moment!!!
*wondering if i should do a bt,lt... but knowing i'm gonna do it anyway... and feeling terribly resigned that it's gonna be long even though i saw so little of the show!!! π* i am glad you did; after the episode was looking forward to reading it. π it has been a long time but i am glad i took a break from the show. no point in being critical and unhappy and watching the show.π
* little thing: what the ...???? heer promised gayatri-mom that she's gonna have a kid?? real soon? ooooooh! whatever i'd expected, this was not it!! man! heer's in a real hurry to get pr..the guy to admit he is prem, isn't she??! i mean. isn't this kinda drastic? but i guess drastic is what she wants just now... i guess she figures that after he tells her he is prem, then all with be right again.she is taking drastic steps to make him confess π. i remember how she goaded him before he confessed he loved her - 'lagti koun houn ha lagti kaun houn....'π. he knows his heer and he knows her and looks like she is going to have to go far to make him confess. hopefully not too far...can we trust the creatives?
i must say i was grinning madly at the way she came back with ''now don't tell me i have to ... no, you are smart.'' when he said ''impossible! how can that happen??!'' π€£π€£π€£ i was also laughing when i heard him say that..
* little thing: still, is a little drastic. gayatri-mom's really gonna be devastated if the guy turns out not to be prem in three months! plus if she thinks that no little prem is gonna be running 'round jzoo a year later... hmmm. i guess if gayatri-mom won't have big prem in three months, not having a little prem is gonna be the least of her worries, no? true, true though she is going to be in full veera worry mode to even realise this....π
* little thing: the small grin on heer's face as the guy stalks away from her! man, is she having fun thinking that prem's really getting cornered! but for some reason, i didn't think she'd be smiling... her reaction to his stricken face in the next section was more what i'd thought she'd be feeling -- just as stricken as he! π i know - looks like hc and ag also find the creatives dialogues and story a bit over the top at times.....
* little thing: but did anyone else grin madly when they heard the guy say ''mein tumhara prem nehin hoo...''
tumhara prem. *sigh* funny how in this episode the guy was all ''tumhara prem'', ''kissi aur ki biwi'', ''sirf prem sey pyaar kartey ho'', all the time, no? π kyun, the guy? you desperate to remind heer of s'thing? you'll never have to... she never forgets. why don't you know that?? why? stoooopid the guy... he knows heer is not being fooled but he so badly wants to fool her to shield her from whatever he wants to shield her from... sad.. what is it?
* prem-heer thing: that whole tying the headbandage scene was out of the world superb. but it was just superb! you know as much as we criticise the creatives, this idea i thought was unique. the way prem resolutely followed heer knowing that he could not tie itby himself was cute...
hope (hope08) was right -- put these two in a scene together and the show just gets pushed up to beyond amazing. they are in sync ALL THE TIME it is just amazing...the little sighs, the silent moments between them are not out of place at all....
y'know what this scene reminded me of? the sequence when prem finds out that heer's the girl running the prostitution racket in his hotel! no, really! it was one of my the most favourite moments in the show. and this sequence was totally like that one! heer setting herself up (to hurt prem) to save prem! then also she knew that he would be hurt - just like now! then also she was doing it to save him -- just like now she is doing this to get ''her prem''. did not think of that... good one.
i've read somewhere that ag's 19? 20? how? how does she get that hurt-bitter expression on her face, that perfectly matched low tone in her voice when she's practically accusing the guy of becoming all that prem was? how? she can't have ever been through something like that herself? how is she getting it so perfectly right?? she has never wanted to be an actor so being exposed to the telly world must have been a big wake up call to her system. she never shows that it is all new and just goes with the flow so i guess it has to show up somewhere...
i thought the most brilliantly delivered was the look in her eyes at him, her voice when she said ''you can do everything that prem never got to do.'' there was such a touch of tragedy in that, it was mindblowing. and of course, the guy's face there matched hers perfectly. these two are totally brilliant together.
and man! the way her face, her voice, her very soul was tinged with sorrow when she said: ''there's such a difference between what's on the outside, and what's inside, isn't there? just as much difference as between you and my prem.'' the way she said that slowly and quietly was brilliant. she has come a long way as an actress...
how could prem's soul not respond to that line 'bout how prem used to just want to look into her eyes all the time?? while he just turns his eyes away! and man! what a response:
''you're someone else's wife. and i don't like you.''
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shabnam pointed out that it was not ''you don't even like me'', but that he said ''i don't like you''. thanks, shabs (? is that 'kay? π)
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such a granite-hard expression. except... there should'nt have been such angry hurt in his eyes, no? his voice shouldn't have been so .. gruff, no? it should've been hard, no?
that was heart-breaking. both of them were breaking my heart. and i don't even have my heart with me... that scene was brilliantly thought out, acted and shot....
btw, y'know what was perfect? their voices. both of them spoke almost like they were narrating a story, no? there was no anger against each other. such normal voices. but that was how it should've been -- if it was as if heer talking to just the guy. or the guy talking back to heer. but it was not. it was heer talking to prem. telling prem that she was okay 'bout loving someone with his face. and it was prem telling heer that she didn't even like him.
i loved how nothing on the surface was high-pitched - not the voices, not the expressions, not the eyes, nothing. but everything underneath the surface was! what was high-pitched were the feelings that they were fighting not to project. what was high-pitched was the control that both were fighting to have over themselves. it was heart-breaking. my heart, not even with me, was getting twisted, wrenched, torn, broken, broken, broken in that scene.
but really. could it be any other way? this is prem-heer. the eternal souls who were made for each other. if heer was trying to reach beyond unseen barriers between her and prem, using every trick in the book to reach out to him, how could it be any other way? if prem was watching her do this, and couldn't let her come to him, how could it be any other way than to feel torn while watching them do this to each other?you describe this brilliantly πππ
i don't believe for an instant that he doesn't know that she is faking those lines 'bout loving his face. i don't. that is not him. that is just not him. prem is prem is prem. there is a deeper issue. there is a deeper problem that is making him feel miserable. some truth that he is fighting to keep to himself. i wish i could understand what was making him miserable... this truth that is stopping him fighting heer. remember he agreed to marry ashlesha for his dad's sake? he is doing this here for some other promise that he needs to fulfill. as opposed to that situation where manmeet was not the 'right' person for her; here she is sheltered by being with his family amd he wants to spare her his pian. I so want to know what it is
as i watched this segment, what was most astonishing was how i thought every moment was the best. until i saw the next moment, which was better. and it just kept doing that till the end of that piece.
where i thought hc-and-ag reached the zenith was when he stopped her as she is walking away: ''and i thought you loved only prem. not just prem's face''. the look on his face was amazing. and - turned away from him - her expressions were mindblowing. ag keeps showing how there can be different forms of heart-ache a girl can bear. that face before she turns around saying ''you are right. prem's not here - but if his face is here, why shouldn't i love that?''
y'know? i remember there was a beautiful orchestration of movement there, no? heer turns to face him - and he just has to look away from the heartache in her eyes. and her face as she asks him why she shouldn't love his face! was brilliant. just as brilliant as how she kept watching to see whether he would give up then. and he does, no? he turns fully away from her 'cause his eyes can no longer control the tears that had been fighting to spill from the moment she started tying the cloththing on his head. this is why i wanting to read your bt,lt. i knew you would describe it beautifully. such scenes demand your write ups πππ
*y'know? i really, really want to know how much these two get as directions... and how much they just do themselves... i desperately want to know! why can't we get to know this stuff? 'cause i want to know, damnit!* i also want to know. every movement, every silent moment is so real. I think these come out when there is a master directorwho knows his craft really really well. It reminded me of Gary. Having a couple who are sooo in tune with each other also helps...
* the sweetest thing: when he turns fully away from her, of course, she knows his heart's giving up. and so, i thought it was such a loving thing she did then -- she didn't push the point. she could've said more. she could've gone to face him and asked him why he has tears in his eyes. but she is heer - who loves prem. she doesn't. instead, she quietly apologised to him in her heart for pushing him, for making him cry, -- and she left. and the overwhelming thought at that moment was -- heer loves him sooo much that that feeling spills over from her, over the screen, out of the tv and threatens to drown me! how can the guy ever stand a chance??! no he does not. i think the all the tears that flowed after that were a witness to just that...
* little thing: after the prem-heer moment, everything faded into insignificance for me.
but i do think that was a lovely song they played -- perfect for the deep-hearted sadness spilling from the guy's eyes? i liked it too. perfect...
* hc thing: 'kay! hc! boss! i bow down to you. i offer deepest apologies. i was an ignoramus when i said that you were slipping up on your crying skills. i actually do not like to see him cry.. actually any guy...ok maybe just my dad πππ
that last segment was.. nicely done. 'kay. very nicely done. 'kay? you can stop crying now, and trying to help the darned creatives manipulate my emotions! the previous segment was perfect. it was enough..
* estee-deep-thinking thing: 'kay. i know this is a terribly long bt,lt to have done on just one third of the show. but i have one last thing -- to defend my calling him ''the guy'' today.
didn't anyone else think it was really odd how the guy kept referring to prem as ''prem'' in his mind? in his mind! and it seemed to me that he was being consistent with the weird thoughts he had had earlier: remember when he referred to his own family in his head as ''the juneja's''? has prem turned... schizophernic?? i mean, people create these personalities to disappear into when faced with trauma. but the persona is something that deals with the trauma. what was prem's trauma?
in my whatif#2 scenario, the real gaurav sharma runs back into the fire and recsues prem's sorry butt. but at a very heavy price -- he succumbs himself. prem, being prem, of course, takes the responsibility of that death on his own head. remember how he was with sanjana's death? feeling really guilty, though he wasn't? this would've been ten times worse! 'cause this time he is guilty, even if indirectly, for the death of a stranger! a stranger with a dependent mother! and of course, he would have to take on this responsibility! he will replace the son in themother's life. but he has his own huge set of responsibilities. how can he forgo them? the only way he can do it is by forces his own head to forget them. he forces his own head to believe that he is gaurav sharma. problem is -- he's made so many people face the trauma of the death of prem juneja then! does he think that the old mother deserves him 'cause the juneja's at least have each other? that they have heer??! *sigh! i want to know that the guy's truth is! right now, damnit!*
but i wonder ...
** when he did, did he remember his family? the family that was his heaven and earth for so long? did he remember heer? or did he remember them only at seeing the cctv recording?
** when he did remember them, what did he decide to do 'bout ''his mother''? 'cause when he sindoored heer, there was no three-month clause - that was a forever after, seven lives and all that jazz. so what he was he gonna do with the lady in dilli?
it looks like that heer discovering his little handshake with ratty was a very convenient thing for him, no? heer herself set a time line for him to get away from the juneja-part of his life.
** it seems to me that he did the unholy deal with ratty before he saw the cctv recording and realised who he really was. so he had wanted 50 million before he knew he was prem. wonder why he wanted so much money? 'cause it looks like he still needs the money, when he said: but if i fight with you, you'll find out the truth, the truth that i can never let you know. what is the guy's truth? i want to know... i really really want to know. like, now! π
** when he said at the very end, ''who am i that i will live here always?'' -- that was ... interesting. did he realise that he's not gonna be able to only after he thought heer was willing to compromise on her loving only-prem? or was he planning on leaving in three months even before this? after this, will he turn back more and more into being gaurav sharma rather than prem?
*although y'know? i can't imagine that the simple quiet boy in the train on 10/01 was anything like hip-hop prem! where did that persona come from, i wonder??!! or is it that the guy's been searching for a person since the blast, and kinda takes on the personality of whoever's nearest him, or s'thing? or am i using psychology way beyond the scope of this show? π ok this is where i switched off with what you wrote because my head already hurts with all the suspense that is dished out in the show and then to figure it all out is just too much. πBut I must say that your angle seems more realistic