25 mar: big things, little things - Page 2

Originally posted by: estee

i'm not sure i should be writing this bt,lt. 'cause i didn't really see a lot of the show... mom's friends were on the couch and i was on the floor at mom's knee in front of the tv. and i fell asleep! *embarrased muh* i woke up when they were getting up to start dinner.

and in the show, that was when pre... the guy was glaring at heer for promising gayatri-mom a little prem??? of course, allsleep instantly fled from my head in a moment!!!

*wondering if i should do a bt,lt... but knowing i'm gonna do it anyway... and feeling terribly resigned that it's gonna be long even though i saw so little of the show!!! 😆*

* little thing: what the ...???? heer promised gayatri-mom that she's gonna have a kid?? real soon? ooooooh! whatever i'd expected, this was not it!! man! heer's in a real hurry to get pr..the guy to admit he is prem, isn't she??! i mean. isn't this kinda drastic? but i guess drastic is what she wants just now... i guess she figures that after he tells her he is prem, then all with be right again.

i must say i was grinning madly at the way she came back with ''now don't tell me i have to ... no, you are smart.'' when he said ''impossible! how can that happen??!'' 🤣🤣🤣
i luved prem's expression but to tell u the truth i was realli disgusted by the fact that heer was talkin about her pregnancy so openly to tat stupid lady and to her mother-in-law..... i mean fine she wants prem to own up but that doesnt mean that creatives give her such cheap dialogues and also the way she smirles it was not at all heer there......

* little thing: still, is a little drastic. gayatri-mom's really gonna be devastated if the guy turns out not to be prem in three months! plus if she thinks that no little prem is gonna be running 'round jzoo a year later... hmmm. i guess if gayatri-mom won't have big prem in three months, not having a little prem is gonna be the least of her worries, no? at this point i think he is prem with full memory that is why he was soo hurt...... so i think gmom doesnt has to worry moreover i think veera is surely goin to influence her and tamper her bond with prem

* little thing: but did anyone else grin madly when they heard the guy say ''mein tumhara prem nehin hoo...'' yes i had a wide smile on my face thinkin that aisa tum samajhte ho par heer to sab kuch janti hai😉😉

tumhara prem. *sigh* funny how in this episode the guy was all ''tumhara prem'', ''kissi aur ki biwi'', ''sirf prem sey pyaar kartey ho'', all the time, no? 😍 kyun, the guy? you desperate to remind heer of s'thing? you'll never have to... she never forgets. why don't you know that?? why? stoooopid the guy...
i kno this is the height of stupidity i mean all the while eversince u have been livin with heer didnt u get this till now that she can 4get herslf but she can never forget her prem......... at least this much u shud kno re baba😆😆
* prem-heer thing: that whole tying the headbandage scene was out of the world superb. but it was just superb! yea heer's actions and prem's reactions were gr8 i mean the irritation the put on act and also the unknwingly created chemistry........

hope (hope08) was right -- put these two in a scene together and the show just gets pushed up to beyond amazing. cant agree with u more

y'know what this scene reminded me of? the sequence when prem finds out that heer's the girl running the prostitution racket in his hotel! no, really! it was one of my the most favourite moments in the show. and this sequence was totally like that one! heer setting herself up (to hurt prem) to save prem! then also she knew that he would be hurt - just like now! then also she was doing it to save him -- just like now she is doing this to get ''her prem''. yes i totally agree with u thats u i had mentioned earlier too that prem might cum around and ask heer for he change he wud kno pretty soon that she knows his truth and also the thing that she went to delhi is such a major hint how can he overlook that yaar.......

i've read somewhere that ag's 19? 20? how? how does she get that hurt-bitter expression on her face, that perfectly matched low tone in her voice when she's practically accusing the guy of becoming all that prem was? how? she can't have ever been through something like that herself? how is she getting it so perfectly right?? i dunno i think sangat ka asar hai.... after all HC is a brilliant actor yaar.... but she has improved tremendously yaar from the frst episode to now there is a tremendous improvement........kudoos to that........

i thought the most brilliantly delivered was the look in her eyes at him, her voice when she said ''you can do everything that prem never got to do.'' there was such a touch of tragedy in that, it was not mindblowing. and of course, the guy's face there matched hers perfectly. these two are totally brilliant together. wenever they are together onscreen they just sizlle it...... be it a romantic scene or a tragic scene be it a happy scene or a sad one theie chemistry is uncomparable......

and man! the way her face, her voice, her very soul was tinged with sorrow when she said: ''there's such a difference between what's on the outside, and what's inside, isn't there? just as much difference as between you and my prem.'' yes she almost cried ot seemed and the pain in her voice was so evident but i still this prem was not able to pik ti up wats with him now a days.........uffff

how could prem's soul not respond to that line 'bout how prem used to just want to look into her eyes all the time?? while he just turns his eyes away! and man! what a response:
''you're someone else's wife. and you don't even like me.'' he is just bein gaurav in front of her..... ohh btw was it u dutn even like me or i dutn even like y *confused* i guess i will have to watch the scene again😉😉......... aur waise bhi how can she b sum1 elses wife u stupid wen u were the one who married her in the mandap punchin RR lolzzz


that was heart-breaking. both of them were breaking my heart. and i don't even have my heart with me... same here specially when they both look in the opposit directions talkin to themselves felt like goin and huggin both of them.........


i loved how nothing on the surface was high-pitched - not the voices, not the expressions, not the eyes, nothing. but everything underneath the surface was! what was high-pitched were the feelings that they were fighting not to project. what was high-pitched was the control that both were fighting to have over everything. it was heart-breaking. my heart, not even with me, was getting twisted, wrenched, torn, broken, broken, broken in that scene. i kno it was just perfect both of them adament in their own way tryin to control as much as they could have.......... not utterin a single word in rage or anger......not even hintin each other thru words that wat is goin on in theor hearts........ what tumoil both are ogin thru....... it was realli heart breakin


i don't believe for an instant that he doesn't know that she is faking those lines 'bout loving his face. i don't. that is not him. that is just not him. prem is prem is prem. there is a deeper issue. there is a deeper problem that is making him feel miserable. some truth that he is fighting to keep to himself. i could understand what was making him miserable... this truth that is stopping him fighting heer. i agree pem cannot doubt heer yaar cummon........ the person who was ready to marry RR just for the sake of his family i dutn think that he can doubt that peron i m sure that soone ror later he will surely cum around and try to find out y she is doin that..........

where i thought hc-and-ag reached the zenith was when he stopped her as she is walking away: ''and i thought you loved only prem. not just prem's face''. the look on his face was amazing. and - turned away from him - her expressions were mindblowing. ag keeps showing how there can be different forms of heart-ache a girl can bear. that face before she turns around saying ''you are right. prem's not here - but if his face is here, why shouldn't i love that?'' yes wen she was lukin away her face refelcted her heart's pain but the minute she turned around she had a determined and indifferent look on her face that calls for sum good actin.........

*y'know? i really, really want to know how much these two get as directions... and how much they just do themselves... i desperately want to know! why can't we get to know this stuff? 'cause i want to know, damnit!* yes i agree with u then onli we can actually kno that are they naturally gud or are they made to look gud by sum oustandin direction............

* the sweetest thing: when he turns fully away from her, of course, she knows his heart's giving up. and so, i thought it was such a loving thing she did then -- she didn't push the point. she quietly apologised to him in her heart for pushing him, for making him cry, -- and she left. and the overwhelming thought at that moment was -- heer loves him sooo much that that feeling spills over from her, over the screen, out of the tv and threatens to drown me! how can the guy ever stand a chance??! heer knew that by sayin all those things she has broken prem from within that is y she didnot have the guts to push it beyond that point after all she loves him and the pain she is causin to him is what she is goin thru as well....... and she very well knew wat he was thinkin at that point that is y she said to herself that forgiv me prem for akk that i m doin to u but i m doin this onli cuz i want u to own up that u r no one else but my prem............

but i do think that was a lovely song they played -- perfect for the deep-hearted sadness spilling from the guy's eyes?i love that song i was so glad that they used it.......... it suited the scene just too perfectly "sawan beeto jaye pe harwa" i was in tears yaar.........

* hc thing: 'kay! hc! boss! i bow down to you. i offer deepest apologies. i was an ignoramus when i said that you were slipping up on your crying skills. i dunt think that ny one can portray that emotion the way HC does and n that segment it was totally prem with not even a hint of gaurav sharma!!!!!!!

that last segment was.. nicely done. 'kay. very nicely done. 'kay? you can stop crying now, and trying to help the darned creatives manipulate my emotions! the previous segment was perfect. it was enough..

didn't anyone else think it was really odd how the guy kept referring to prem as ''prem'' in his mind? in his mind! and it seemed to me that he was being consistent with the weird thoughts he had had earlier: remember when he referred to his own family in his head as ''the juneja's''? i think ye prem apne gaurav ke cahracter mein kuch jyada hi ghus gaya hai😆...............

it looks to me like the guy has set up a really strong mental defence mechanism in his own head. he has internally convinced himself that he is not prem. it looks like he has the ability to switch personalities in his head. is prem now... schizophernic or s'thing? i know that's caused by trauma.. but the patient creates a lol i have a better option split personality hahaha........ prem and gaurav.......... lol when he switchin occurs i think the creatives are better ppl to answer that.............


but i wonder ...

** when he did, did he remember his family? the family that was his heaven and earth for so long? did he remember heer? or did he remember them only at seeing the cctv recording? this is one thing that i am lukin frwrd to knowin...... i mean i really dutn understand whether he has his memory or no......... or wheter he was fakin eversince he entered the show after his death..........

** when he did remember them, what did he decide to do 'bout ''his mother''? 'cause when he sindoored heer, there was no three-month clause - that was a forever after, seven lives and all that jazz. so what he was he gonna do with the lady in dilli? prolly bring her to jzooo wat else can he do with her if no one lets him go away and by the looks of it heer will never let go off him now specially after knwin he is prem.....................

it looks like that heer discovering his little handshake with ratty was a very convenient thing for him, no? heer herself set a time line for him to get away from the juneja-part of his life. this wat maked me dread the cancer crap cumin up cuz he knew very wll that if he is not prem heer will never allow him to stay with the juneja's for long........ and that is y he paved his way out of the j-zoo even b4 enterin fully.... and may b he did this so that heer does not goes thru the same pain that she went thru when she heard that he was dead.......

highlight of the episode: this is gonna be soooo unfair 'cause i haven't seen most of the episode. so i may be terribly biased. but 'ccording to me? from the moment, that he stops heer saying ''i thought you loved prem. but now i see you only loved his face'' to those last miserable thoughts'', i completely agree with u......... and to tell u the truth u didnt miss nythin in the epi cuz b4 that there was all that saas bahu talks about veera gettin gmom on her side 🤢🤢...........
so today all those prem heer moments in the room and prem all by himself on th bridge were the highlights of the show for sure
🤢
and you only love prem's face, not prem?
i thought you would never look at anyone other than prem?
my heart's dying to fight you;
but if i fight with you, you'll find out the truth,
the truth that i can never let you know.
this tells us that the whole trut is really frightenin and that is y he wants to protect her from the mysery and pain that he is goin thruu rite now....... buti was so heart broken at his wrds when he said " man to karta hai ki tumse ladoon par wo bhi anhi kar sakta kyunki tumhe sacchai ka pata chal jayega"😭........
aakhir aisi kaun si sacchai hai jo prem ko itna kamzor kar rahi hai ki kis insaan se wo is duniya mein sabse jayda pyaar karta hai usi se usee apni zindagi ki sabse badi sacchaayi chupani pad rahi hai......

that sequence was sheer brilliance. man! how they get me... i'd plan to sleep early and wake up early today to finish my backlog of notes... *sigh* instead of which, i find myself unable to sleep. *sigh* instead of writing up notes, i'm writing this bt,lt to try and get the darned show out of my head ... *sigh* i'm so sooo in need of help... *sigh* damn, prem-heer. i hate them both. *sigh* need to start copying notes now... *sigh* lol i can understand estee this always happens with me wenevr i plan to so sumthin prem heer always sum in my way..........lolzzzzz........ cant help it i m sssoooooo much addicted to watchin them yaar..........
btw i luv ur bt lt this is prolly the first time i m postin but i always read them......... nice way to get out all ur thaughts and frustrations and analysis..........

Originally posted by: luckyluv

Hi estee,its a heart wrenching epi.While watching the show my first reaction when prem said and I thought u loved Prem but luv only his face was WTH but then I felt Prem said tht so tht heer hurt might draw back her steps towards him.

that's actually a good idea... that he knows that she knows... and he wants to fight in this war that she has started. but that he can't.

But dunno how to feel abt the last part of him crying.Yeah its heart wrenching.But wht pained him so much,tht heer cud fall for some other let it be lookalike other than him,or did he believe tht all these days heer luved his face but not him,or tht he cant get close to heer and cant bear her going close to someone else.

for some reason, i can't see the guy crying 'cause heer is falling for someone other than prem... 😆 and it's certainly not that he believes heer never loved prem, but only his face (that would be an insane thought for anyone -- let alone the guy! after he has seen all her sacrifices?? never!) i also couldn't really understand why he was miserable at the end. and then i wondered: if he is prem and has been watching heer cry every night, maybe this -- crying -- is what he really does every night too. miserable that heer is miserable? maybe this is just the first time that we've been allowed to see it?

Ok I will w&w whts in store

😆 and, 'cause i know that i won't get anywhere trying to guess, me too! 😆

Originally posted by: DECENT--DIYA

thx dear
4 ur

big things, little things

Originally posted by: hope08

The first bit was Preet fooling with his dad and mom while they all wait for Prem and heer. The other bit was Veera deciding to wear no jewellery in order to gain gaya3 mom's sympathies. In the party Veera tells Maya that very soon Gaya3 will be their biggest ally. And veera goes around to manipulate her. There was a very small segment where Preet meets an old friend and has a drink with her and then she leaves after giving him a hug. Meher sees it but doesn't qus it but Preet doesn't say anythng but feels happy that Meher is concerned.

😲 hope! preet kidding with lj. and then a meet moment! that's called missing a lot! 😆 but ugh... that much of the blackhole-able duo?? ugh...

Heer thing: I so love this attitude Heer. She's really enjoying herself but deep inside hurting too. I totally loved she's all coy when telling Gaya3 mom that she'll be a dadi soon. But what I loved the most in that part is when she deliberately bites into the sweet and feeds Prem.

Prem thing: I so loved the part where he's uncomfortable when the lady comes and asks Heer about when she's giving the good news and he instantly starts fiddling with his phone. A very guy thing to do. But the best part was when Heer feeds him he swallows a lump in his throat.

😲 i missed all that??! i really must figure out when i can setup a episode viewing session at the pcp home..

He looked so heartbroken, lost, dejected but then he consoles himself saying that it's good i am not going to be staying here long. BTW what does that mean?

*sigh* oddly enough, i had spaced out in during that last segment... the previous segment just refused to let my brain free.

but i figured he's still in the mode of thinking that heer's gonna get him to leave as soon as gayatri-mom ''gets well''? and then he's free to go back to the old mother of gaurav sharma? i just got a little puzzled by the first part of that statement -- ''one way, it's good.'' what did he mean by that?? 😆 same segment, different questions...

Prem-Heer thing: He just couldn't stop himself from asking her whether its only the face that she loved and not the person. He had to hear it from her mouth.

*sigh* that's true... so true.

You know this entire segment reminded me of the whole Sanjana thing. I guess she'll have to do something very drastic to get the truth out.

hmm... ek tarah, that's right. 😆 like the moment he'd come to the kitchen to tell her everything, but couldn't. heer didn't push him then. and now, when she knows that he's crushed at her answer, heer doesn't go to face him and demand to know why he has tears in his eyes... she doesn't push him. inn't it sweet when heer gives the guy time? *sigh* good thing that she's planning drastic things -- i want the truth out, desperately! 😆

HC - AG thing: It also helps that when one has a brilliant costar. At least HC has worked before and this is what he always wanted to do so he must have worked towards polishing his skills.

i guess that's true... that he's brilliant does help. but i remember scenes where she's turned out these brilliant moments all by herself. and i get stunned by those... but i do think that they're the best when they're playing off each other. *sigh* i'm just so happy that they got to act together.... and that too in this show! *sigh* how did we get so lucky??! 😍

But must say one thing HC cries beautifully.

😆 d'you know when was the first time i thought that? during the lj-prem-slap-happy session! i think lj must've really slapped him -- 'cause prem looked totally dazzlingly beautifully perfect in that scene! his cheek was pink. his eyes drenched. his li.. forget it. you get the picture. if not, do take a re-look...? 😆

Originally posted by: sourpuss

Heya E! OHMAIGAWSH you totally missed Preet-in-a-SUIT! I honestly believe the creatives are now out to melt my brain so I can't concoct my poison brownies. (And darn now I'm never gonna get to try that out! *poutsulkpout*)

man!!!! *sulking big time that i fell asleep 'cause mom's knee was so cosy and missed (god) preet scenes in the show today. making notes to make sure i'm far away from mom's knees during this show from now on... 😆* but it was that good, huh? and why, pray, are you never gonna get to try out poison brownies? did the poison have to be used when the ... uh ... moon was just at that angle, and saturn and uranus were in the right position with each other? 😆

Anyway, I think the whole Prem thing (P.S. You gonna start calling him Prem now? Or still 'the guy'? Because I mean technically he kinda admitted that he *is* Prem...And dangit why do I keep thinking of an old crush of mine whenever I type Prem?! *morepoutsulkpout*)

nome, i'm gonna wait till he himself confesses that he's prem. i think i described the exact wordings and look in the eye, etc, that i want for this scene in a reply to raksha's post on the first page... 😆 until then? nome, i'm gonna keep calling him the guy. hmmm... an old crush called prem, huh? look anything like this one? 😆

I mean, how can he even for a minute think that Heer, THE Prem-Heer-are-and-always-will-be-one Heer, can love someone else? And that too, all of a sudden? (That's another thing: didn't he realise that since she's come back from Delhi she's been leading him on a lot more?!)

i know! i don't think he actually thinks that... i think he's trying to figure out what she is upto, really. or he'll figure the dilli connection soon? oh, i dunno... this is prem-heer. of prem-heer-are-one. i'm keeping the faith. and w&w. 😆

I think I felt my heart break (or at least twist into a gazillion knots) in the final scene with Prem crying on the bridge. And I shall now stop talking because I really don't feel too qualified to talk about this. SIGH.

😆 inn't it amazing the power of prem's tears? you haven't even seen the old prem and still the guy twists your heart into knots! er... have you gotten a membership into the ihp-club yet? sounds like you'll find some use for it in the near future... 😆 d'you know i once twisted an old pome just for prem? it went like this:

cry and the world cries with you.
smile and the world has fainted at your feet!

🤣 ain't it true??

Estee ....A big hug from me and little one from Junior