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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: monizusa

Look the story has to hold, the screenplay HAS to be interesting first and foremast. Promotion can only bring in the audiences to take a peek, and see what these shows are all about. Think about the film industry....they go head over heels and promote the films before release, but if the story isn't good, if direction is bad, after the first weekend revenue falls, because people were caught of up in the initial hype but the real product showed through. Same with this show and other shows in Star Plus. Promotion won't do much help in getting steady group of audiences until the story, and direction are interesting.

And you said that because STAR isn't promoting Kis Desh nowadays it's not doing well, but I think Kis Desh isn't doing well that's why they aren't promoting and wasting their money.

Hey agree with u too but the whole point is that promotion does play a major role... As for me the story is gud atleast what they are showing in Biddai.... I mean come on arent you intrested and eager to know that if HC is The Prem or Gaurav??? I am for sure and so are most people in this forum...
Promotion does help if u agree or not. Becoz of promotion of serials like Shree and Chhoti Bahu(ZEE) i started watching them in the first place. If not the whole day long atleast they can atleast air one promo in an hour... even that would probably be enough to gain attention of the new as well as lost viewers...
I think Kis desh's storyline is much better than that of other high trp rated serials... The HC-AG chemistry cant be matched by anyone atleast not for me!!
Moreover Star has something against BT serials... Even with Tujh sang having better TRPs than RKAB Tujh sang was shifted to an evening slot... I agree Creatives do have to look into the matter and do better but again Star also has to promote them....Like they say taali ek haath se nahi bajti
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mobina

I agree with you anupama Star is very biased I have stopped watching Bidaai myself because like you said it is very boing at least for me anyway there is hardly anything to look forward to in the show. Bidai's lead couples can't create the magic like Harshiti. I personally think Ragni Ranveer no matter how many romantic moments are given to them the spark isn't there. I mean for example like yesterdays precap when they show Heer putting that thing (sos I don't know what you call it) on Prem I('ll say prem cuz I strongly believe he is Prem) the just lights up the screen omg even the way those to look at each other that just creates magic and gives us goosebumps. Ranveer Ragni all the dialouges and scenes can't create that sort magic not for me anyway.

Luv you Mobina😊 Nobody can create magic on scree the way HC-AG do...Its hot and its all fiery and feasty.... Apart from that the storyline is more than intresting....I mean everybody wants to know if he is prem, he is gaurav and what happens next...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: monizusa

Look the story has to hold, the screenplay HAS to be interesting first and foremast. Promotion can only bring in the audiences to take a peek, and see what these shows are all about. Think about the film industry....they go head over heels and promote the films before release, but if the story isn't good, if direction is bad, after the first weekend revenue falls, because people were caught of up in the initial hype but the real product showed through. Same with this show and other shows in Star Plus. Promotion won't do much help in getting steady group of audiences until the story, and direction are interesting.

And you said that because STAR isn't promoting Kis Desh nowadays it's not doing well, but I think Kis Desh isn't doing well that's why they aren't promoting and wasting their money.

And if u think promotion dosent help then what about repeats??? Biddai has repeats at 11:00pm in the night, 12:30 in the afternoon; 3 again in the afternoon and one at 5:30 or 6 in the evning... 4 repeats of one show??? and kis desh has one repeat and that too at 4:30
If they cant spend on promotion atleast they can show repeats for that matter??
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Intellienough

yes anupama i have also screamed , shouted at SP in so many threads.I even wrote in indya.com official site criticising SP but what they did they removed my comment twice .I still wrote third time also.They are just biased with Bidai and yeh rista...so much so that SP people are just addicted to rajan sahi the way we are addicted to HC and AG.I think SP ARE IN LOVE WITH RAJAN SHAI Kyonki unhe koi mila nahi na.I am really pissed of .I am just boycotting all shows in SP except KDMHMD and TSPLS.
By the way quality of KDMHMD is much much better than Bidai and yeh...They just show marriage , Honey moon and leads are alway chipku chipku with each other .They are to fill with romance but NO CHEMISTRY is there .Rather in KDMHMD the leads are mostly apart still they are able to fire .KDMHMD is always unpredictable.We don't know what they will show next so that creates lots of interest and we indulge our self in predictions and criticism but we enjoy and love doing it.even if they are not promoting the show we still know its far far better than any other show.The more they don't promote more we are hating the other shows beacuse of their biasedness.

yup quality, chemistry everything is better. Even after being "chipku-chipku" nobody can create magic like HC and Ag on screen NO offence to Biddai fans but KDMHMD has got content which we can look forward to atleast better than something in which there is no looking forward to..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: @nup@m@

Hey agree with u too but the whole point is that promotion does play a major role... As for me the story is gud atleast what they are showing in Biddai....I can't comment on Biddai cuz I don't watch that show, and matter of fact any show on StarPlus except kis desh. I mean come on arent you intrested and eager to know that if HC is The Prem or Gaurav??? That's my point though, we are interested to watch a promo because we already love this show and watch it. Whoever is part of this forum, is already hooked to this show (for most part). I am for sure and so are most people in this forum...
Promotion does help if u agree or not. Becoz of promotion of serials like Shree and Chhoti Bahu(ZEE) i started watching them in the first place. Promotion plays a big role when you are promoting a new product, new show in the beginning. Both Shree and Chhoti Bahu are new shows, and for Kis Desh it has already been a year...so the initial promotion and hype has already reached its saturation point. And if you are still comparing Shree to Kis Desh: KDMHMD had been promoted well when it first started. If not the whole day long atleast they can atleast air one promo in an hour... even that would probably be enough to gain attention of the new as well as lost viewers...
I think Kis desh's storyline is much better than that of other high trp rated serials... Honestly I don't really agree with you here. The story after Prem's death has been ghisa pita and I have seen all this upteenth times, especially in BT shows. The HC-AG chemistry cant be matched by anyone atleast not for me!! I agree!!! But chemistry alone can't run a show, especially when people are confused whether this is Prem or Gaurav.
Moreover Star has something against BT serials... Even with Tujh sang having better TRPs than RKAB Tujh sang was shifted to an evening slot... I agree Creatives do have to look into the matter and do better but again Star also has to promote them....Like they say taali ek haath se nahi bajti

But I can't really deny the fact, that promotion has an effect on a show. But, I just don't think it makes or breaks a show that has already had a 1 year run. Sure it can have a terrible effect on a new and coming serial, but not really on a show that's older than 6 months....and you can't deny the fact that this show was very well promoted when it first began. And what about the fact that every week, there is at least one segment on Kis Desh? That's also promotion right?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I disagree....Kis desh has been going on for almost a year....the viweres are those who are already hooked,etc...so it doesnt need promotion as much as new shows do..
I think the problem of falling TRP's as can be assesed from REAL statistics is that When Prem died, trp's went down..
when Harshad came back trp's went up...now when they KEEP saying "prem margaya hai.." trp's are down..
TRP'S my dears are dependent on storylines and solely storylines (once the show is established which is the case with kis desh...)
and statistics show this as well...
so.....its BLT's own fault...
AND we have flooded them with emails that if they bring PREM back we will tune in and they will have higher trp's..the choice is theirs..
YES they need to have some twists and turns...but cmon..give us some sign..!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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No, the creatives are not to be blamed but both Starplus and BT are to be blamed. They are both idiots, the success of Starplus and BT depends on both of them working together at least for the shows that they have together. They had a good chance with KDMHMD and they lost it. Starplus should blame itself EQUALLY for its failure in being unable to catch the tide of change in viewers' taste in time.
Starplus must remember not to destroy its existing shows that have the possibility of doing well. Playing the catch up game from behind and with new shows may not be as easy as it seems.
Also, by getting into bed with many shows of Rajan Shahi, are they not repeating the same mistake that they made the many many similar shows that they had going with BT several years ago???
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: ritzbitz786

I disagree....Kis desh has been going on for almost a year....the viweres are those who are already hooked,etc...so it doesnt need promotion as much as new shows do..

I think the problem of falling TRP's as can be assesed from REAL statistics is that When Prem died, trp's went down..
when Harshad came back trp's went up...now when they KEEP saying "prem margaya hai.." trp's are down..
TRP'S my dears are dependent on storylines and solely storylines (once the show is established which is the case with kis desh...)
and statistics show this as well...
so.....its BLT's own fault...
AND we have flooded them with emails that if they bring PREM back we will tune in and they will have higher trp's..the choice is theirs..
YES they need to have some twists and turns...but cmon..give us some sign..!

Atleast someone agrees with me. 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: monizusa

But I can't really deny the fact, that promotion has an effect on a show. But, I just don't think it makes or breaks a show that has already had a 1 year run. Sure it can have a terrible effect on a new and coming serial, but not really on a show that's older than 6 months....and you can't deny the fact that this show was very well promoted when it first began. And what about the fact that every week, there is at least one segment on Kis Desh? That's also promotion right?

I agree but Biddai was started 6 months before than KDMHMD and yet it is still promoted....WHy??? Just because its a high TRP rated serial... I agree chemistry is just not the only reason for a show to be hit but for me the storyline is more intresting. Infact I fing even Raja ki aayegi baraat's story line more intresting than Biddai... It probably has more content than Biddai..
I know you dont watch Biddai but Biddai is telecasted so many times a day that if someone who is hooked will for sure catch it at that time... I am not saying that CREaTIVES are not resposible they are but Promotion is needed... Atleast in the tonite section they could have shown an 8-11 slot instead of just showing a 9-11 slot....
As far as segment in SBS is considered how many people actually get to watch it?? many people dont probably know that such a serial is aired and i am sure people who know abt it do watch it
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: monizusa

Atleast someone agrees with me. 😊

Hey agreed with u too😭😭
But my point of view is that both are to be blamed.. we keep on cursing the creatives - obviously they do what they can do best..... star just have to make sure that it is promoted... Biddai is older serial and is still promoted and with the promotion of the new serials the older serials get affected...
For ex.. none of the older shows on Zee work well Maayka, Kasamh se why they are hardle promoted and yet Saat phere, and Betiyyaan are still advertised.... and they do well if not in the ranking chart yet they do well...
If creatives atre to be blamed then promtion has to also be looked into... I die to see a promo of kis desh in the weekends and all i get to see is Biddai, Biddai, Biddai....

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