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Posted: 16 years ago
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wtf stands for weekend thoughts feature, 'kay? 'cause i'm a good girl, i am! šŸ˜†

for this weekend's feature, i'm going to present two things that i realised really bothered me over the last two weeks of the show. one i think bugs everyone, and the other i haven't seen anyone talk 'bout. so tell me what you think.

1. what bugs everyone: prem trapped among the burning buildings.
fact: prem hates heat. and yet for a mom's sake, he goes into the middle of the burning buildings to get to her son.
fact: prem pulls and pushes at obstacles to get to the son, and then get him out.
fact: prem sees something fall at them and ... pushes the guy out of the way?? *frown* why didn't he just run??
fact: the son says he will not leave prem there in the middle of the burning buildings
fact: prem sits like he is terrified of something and has lost hope of fighting it. sits waiting for death.
fact: prem does remember his past life. but then... he hears something more... bits and pieces of the future of that life?? and he is startled. and a tear runs down his cheek.
(btw, did anyone else, while watching those parched lips feel pity enough to want to lean over and kiss them just so that they would have some relief from being so dry? i did. purely out of pity. seriously. they were so pathetic. i hope hc got to drink lots of water after that shot...)
fact: prem has just spent the whole day having premonitions of what will happen to heer and having them come true. right in front of his ... uh ... ears. šŸ˜†

i want to know: what they heck was that segment supposed to mean?? i think there's some meaning to it that we are being kept in the dark about. the story 'bout that segment isn't over yet, methinks....

2. what no-one else doesn't seem to have talked about: that prem confession to heer over the phone into her voice-mailbox. y'know? that bugged me! i finally figured it out -- it bugged the heck out of me. why, you ask? i know that it had the most wonderful hc-as-prem voice: sweet as the most unbelieveable nectar, saying the most loving things possible. but - and this is a big but! - what the heck was he saying??! praying that he would die before heer??!?! wtf??!! (uh..... 'kay, 'kay! so mebbe i'm not such a good girl after all! i'll go stand in the corner for an hour just as soon as i write this up. and wash my brain with washing powder nirma! promise! 🤣)

this is prem, right? he's sworn that he will not rest happily as long as he doesn't know heer is happy foreverafter, right? isn't that what prem is all about: burn the whole world if there is a single tear that falls from heer's eyes????! and he's spewing this defeatist poop on the phone??! and guess what??! immediately after there is bomb blast right in his face??! wtf!! ('kay!!! i'll do two hours in the corner! lemmeee finish, no?)

so i put the two facts together: and i figure -- this cannot be happening! it just isn't! it's too much of a coincidence that
- prem's filled with heer-dying premonitions
- prem's filled with (imho, cowardly) can't-stand-life-without-heer feelings
- prem's perfect and thus, cannot - just cannot! - be cowardly. so...

if i were a team of creators who have been totally cool about the story so far, this is what would be: that prem's being presented a chance of answering the question: okay, so you can't face life without heer? then is this what you want??!

where the this is the life that we are being shown! and then prem'll have to choose -- heer being maimed or killed while he is still alive, vs. heer living a life where he is no longer there. and then, he gets to choose: stay in burning buildings and escape from ever needing to see heer hurt or dead? escape burning buildings into a life where he has to live with the knowledge that a random senseless stooooopid event can take her away from him.

*feeling pleased with myself*

good thought, no? even if it did take me two whole weeks to get it?

well, now that i'm done, i guess i have to run off and
1. wash my brain and mouth with washing power nirma to clean it of that terrible expansion for wtf and
2. stand in the corner for two hours.

'cause at the end of the day, i am a good girl, i am. or i try very hard to be! 😃

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Nice. But if Prem is given a choice between his life and Heer's he'll definitely choose her life over his. That still doesn't help us right, Whether prem dies or heer the pair is broken, right? I think that is what he meant to say on the phone - where he says knowing that your life is in danger has killed me over and over again i rather die than live with the feeling that your life is in danger - the lines were something to that effect. But one thing that has been bothering me is this - when prem just sits there and gives up without fighting or trying (very very unlike Prem) why does he remember his past and say "yeh meri zindagi ho sukti thi" . What does that mean? They were showing his past - his childhood, scenes with heer, his siblings. He has lived them they why does he wish that could have been his life?That line has been bothering me for sometime. Infact couple of days ago somebody had post on the same topic. And the other thing is they never showed what his life could have been. They could have shown scenes like him getting married, his parents happy etc. They didn't. They just showed his past and then he hears these voices in head and then you hear him say that "people say when one nears death then one can see their entire life in front ot one eyes and then they show all the past scenes and then he says this could have been my life- don't know how long i'll live" and then he hears his siblings talking, his mother calling etc. Didn't get the wholething. Can you please shed some light on this?

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: hope08

Nice. But if Prem is given a choice between his life and Heer's he'll definitely choose her life over his. That still doesn't help us right, Whether prem dies or heer the pair is broken, right? I think that is what he meant to say on the phone - where he says knowing that your life is in danger has killed me over and over again i rather die than live with the feeling that your life is in danger - the lines were something to that effect.



well, i was thinking that prem's choice start from the point that he is standing at the sari shop. where he utters those silly lines. and i thought they were silly 'cause he was choosing between:
- suffering from the fear that heer might die while he lives or
- dying before her so that he doesn't have to suffer from that fear

so while i agree with you, that in a deadly situation involving them both, where he gets to choose whether he will die, or she will die - obviously he will always choose that she will live. but here, i thought the choice was between: living with the fear that she will die or ending that fear forever. that is where prem is in the burning buildings - he can make that choice. by dying, he lets go of that awful fear. but also gives up on giving heer all her happiness.

of course: i forgot to put the caveat that nothing that i predict for the story of this show comes true. so this is truly just a pipe-dream. but i kinda like it. 😃

Originally posted by: hope08

But one thing that has been bothering me is this - when prem just sits there and gives up without fighting or trying (very very unlike Prem) why does he remember his past and say "yeh meri zindagi ho sukti thi" . What does that mean? They were showing his past - his childhood, scenes with heer, his siblings. He has lived them they why does he wish that could have been his life? That line has been bothering me for sometime. Infact couple of days ago somebody had post on the same topic. And the other thing is they never showed what his life could have been. They could have shown scenes like him getting married, his parents happy etc. They didn't. They just showed his past and then he hears these voices in head and then you hear him say that "people say when one nears death then one can see their entire life in front ot one eyes and then they show all the past scenes and then he says this could have been my life- don't know how long i'll live" and then he hears his siblings talking, his mother calling etc...



on the first, editing blooper? šŸ˜† you have to admit: this team excels at making editing bloopers! so if they had showed the scenes of his life just once -- or in between his saying that line 'bout people's life flashing in front of their eyes when they're close to dying - i thought it might just be that they goofed up - again?! i seriously think that these episodes were rushed out - as always! wasn't this also the time that the strike was going on...?

as to the second: i'm not sure i got it either. i thought he said what life will be like. was it what "my life will be like"? i thought what he was seeing - while feeling hopelessly trapped - is what life will be like going forward -- without him? which is what makes me think that it fits in with my "wtf" idea -- that he is getting a chance to see what life's like without him before he dies? and maybe we haven't really seen the end of that prem-trapped segment yet?

no? 😊


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Posted: 16 years ago
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double post! deleted. 😊
Edited by estee - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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*reserved*
will come later and reply in detail
Estee that was fab...
sorry..i think i wont be able to reply in detail...i have to go....
neway keep going with ur 'wtf's.....
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Posted: 16 years ago
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So are you trying to say that the episodes that we are seeing now is Prem's insight into future? And it hasn't actually happend? That'll be nice if it were true. But I don't think so especially with all the obit ads in the newspaper. I don't mind any stupidity as long as they bring him back.
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Originally posted by: hope08

So are you trying to say that the episodes that we are seeing now is Prem's insight into future? And it hasn't actually happend? That'll be nice if it were true. But I don't think so especially with all the obit ads in the newspaper. I don't mind any stupidity as long as they bring him back.

same here...
Edited by S.Nisa - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: hope08

So are you trying to say that the episodes that we are seeing now is Prem's insight into future? And it hasn't actually happend? That'll be nice if it were true. But I don't think so especially with all the obit ads in the newspaper. I don't mind any stupidity as long as they bring him back.



u knw...i was thinking abt that since the past few days...this cud be Prem's insight into the future...he cud be unconscious now...lying down in a hospital bed...thinking/dreaming abt all these.....(such happens in english shows)... n he will wake up after Heer's reaction...realizing that he has to be back for his loved ones....that'll be really nice if we get to see that...

but i dont think creatives can ever think like this...i wish tho....

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: khushix



u knw...i was thinking abt that since the past few days...this cud be Prem's insight into the future...he cud be unconscious now...lying down in a hospital bed...thinking/dreaming abt all these.....(such happens in english shows)... n he will wake up after Heer's reaction...realizing that he has to be back for his loved ones....that'll be really nice if we get to see that...

but i dont think creatives can ever think like this...i wish tho....

Yea creatives can never be positively creative, although this sounds so logical
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: estee

wtf stands for weekend thoughts feature, 'kay? 'cause i'm a good girl, i am! šŸ˜†



*shakes head* *stops shaking head and look's shocked at estee after reading 'good girl' part* *shakes head again*

I'm sorry, i have no word's, just actions. šŸ˜†


Originally posted by: estee

for this weekend's feature, i'm going to present two things that i realised really bothered me over the last two weeks of the show. one i think bugs everyone, and the other i haven't seen anyone talk 'bout. so tell me what you think.



You spelled realized wrong. šŸ¤“ Ugh, i hate being in pre-ap english. I never used to notice these kind of things.

Oooh, a new thought. I wonder if I thought of it before. šŸ¤” Probably didn't.


Originally posted by: estee

fact: prem hates heat. and yet for a mom's sake, he goes into the middle of the burning buildings to get to her son.



He does? This is why i still have to watch that danged part. I still haven't gotten enough courage to see it. But I guess this is where the perfect part of Prem comes in. I think i would've done that too... would have i? Hmmmmm...

Originally posted by: estee

fact: prem pulls and pushes at obstacles to get to the son, and then get him out.
fact: prem sees something fall at them and ... pushes the guy out of the way?? *frown* why didn't he just run??



See, Prem is perfect. He would've have left without saving the person. But what I don't get is, why didn't he push the son with him? This always bugs me in drama's. A truck is coming and the girls about to get smashed by it, the guy comes and pushes her out of the way, and gets hit by the truck instead. I don't get it, why not get on the other side with her? Aaaaaaaaaaah!

Originally posted by: estee

fact: the son says he will not leave prem there in the middle of the burning buildings



Then why didn't the stupid little thing pull him with him? Thats what Prem would've done if Heer was there. šŸ˜

Originally posted by: estee

fact: prem sits like he is terrified of something and has lost hope of fighting it. sits waiting for death.
fact: prem does remember his past life. but then... he hears something more... bits and pieces of the future of that life?? and he is startled. and a tear runs down his cheek.
(btw, did anyone else, while watching those parched lips feel pity enough to want to lean over and kiss them just so that they would have some relief from being so dry? i did. purely out of pity. seriously. they were so pathetic. i hope hc got to drink lots of water after that shot...)



That really bugs me... I saw the pics, he was scared like a lost kid. Thats not Prem! He so ruined that perfect image of himself. OMG! He saw his future life? Like Heer and him married with kids or something? šŸ˜ Man I wish we could actually see that...
*looks around nervously* I did not have the urge to kiss him... I did NOT stare at that picture for a few minutes waiting for it to become real.... STOP TAUNTING ME! *runs away*

Originally posted by: estee

fact: prem has just spent the whole day having premonitions of what will happen to heer and having them come true. right in front of his ... uh ... ears. šŸ˜†

i want to know: what they heck was that segment supposed to mean?? i think there's some meaning to it that we are being kept in the dark about. the story 'bout that segment isn't over yet, methinks....



Yea, you would have expected him to run to Heer instead of saving some random guy that loves his mother. Wait, don't all guy's love there mothers? šŸ¤” Almost.

The 'wait and watch' part comes up again. I hate how the creatives always make us wait and watch, then again, its always something good.


Originally posted by: estee

2. what no-one else doesn't seem to have talked about: that prem confession to heer over the phone into her voice-mailbox. y'know? that bugged me! i finally figured it out -- it bugged the heck out of me. why, you ask? i know that it had the most wonderful hc-as-prem voice: sweet as the most unbelieveable nectar, saying the most loving things possible. but - and this is a big but! - what the heck was he saying??! praying that he would die before heer??!?! wtf??!! (uh..... 'kay, 'kay! so mebbe i'm not such a good girl after all! i'll go stand in the corner for an hour just as soon as i write this up. and wash my brain with washing powder nirma! promise! 🤣)



Shouldn't she have heard it by know? Since she was leaving a voicemail on his cell... which btw was really cute. She would change her position like ever 2 seconds later, and the things she was saying... Made me get teary eyed thinking about how sad she would've been when she thought about what she said when she finds out Prem is dead. Aaah, to many when's in that sentence.

Hailaa... So your brain isn't that clean. I had to look up washing powder nirma... The commercial is soo... 🤣 I'm sending spies over to make sure you wash that brain right, and do that hour without any glances at Prem&Heer *looks at estee strictly*


Originally posted by: estee

this is prem, right? he's sworn that he will not rest happily as long as he doesn't know heer is happy foreverafter, right? isn't that what prem is all about: burn the whole world if there is a single tear that falls from heer's eyes????! and he's spewing this defeatist poop on the phone??! and guess what??! immediately after there is bomb blast right in his face??! wtf!! ('kay!!! i'll do two hours in the corner! lemmeee finish, no?)



All I can say is, i totally agree. I guess this wtf was okay, so an hour will be good enough. You wouldn't last two hours without seeing/imagining Prem and Heer. 🤣 That makes me think about your dreams. šŸ¤”

Originally posted by: estee

so i put the two facts together: and i figure -- this cannot be happening! it just isn't! it's too much of a coincidence that
- prem's filled with heer-dying premonitions
- prem's filled with (imho, cowardly) can't-stand-life-without-heer feelings
- prem's perfect and thus, cannot - just cannot! - be cowardly. so...



Uh gosh... i really hope its not happening. If this is happening, then they've totally ruined perfect prem. *sigh* And, they could've so thought of a better death for Prem. He was such an important character to Kis Desh, and they give him the most randomest death ever. *sigh*


Originally posted by: estee

if i were a team of creators who have been totally cool about the story so far, this is what would be: that prem's being presented a chance of answering the question: okay, so you can't face life without heer? then is this what you want??!



Exactly! Now he has to face afterlife without Heer, wouldn't that be more difficult? If Heer died, then he had the option of going with her. But know he can't do anything but wait for Heer... which kinda sounds romantic if you think of it in a way.

Originally posted by: estee

where the this is the life that we are being shown! and then prem'll have to choose -- heer being maimed or killed while he is still alive, vs. heer living a life where he is no longer there. and then, he gets to choose: stay in burning buildings and escape from ever needing to see heer hurt or dead? escape burning buildings into a life where he has to live with the knowledge that a random senseless stooooopid event can take her away from him.



He is so being selfish there. He didn't want to face the life without Heer, so he decides to kill himself before. If you think about it, he practically commited suicide. He didn't think about Heer before dying... well he did think about her, but he didn't think about her future without him. So ruins the perfect image, once again.


Originally posted by: estee

*feeling pleased with myself*

good thought, no? even if it did take me two whole weeks to get it?



*shakes head furiously looking at estee's proud grin*

Ahh atleast you got it. It would be kinda random if you got it after a month, though. šŸ˜†


Originally posted by: estee

well, now that i'm done, i guess i have to run off and
1. wash my brain and mouth with washing power nirma to clean it of that terrible expansion for wtf and
2. stand in the corner for two hours.



Yea, lemme just go get my spies. So will it be rinki or shabo? Or both? 😈

Originally posted by: estee

'cause at the end of the day, i am a good girl, i am. or i try very hard to be! 😃



I'm sorry estee, but everyone can't be a good girl. But you'll learn from me one day. 😃

kimz

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