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Posted: 18 years ago
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Shali, I agree Milind has been rude to Prachi... and he has used her. But didnt she marry him for her convenience, for her family, didnt she marry him to have her brother spared? And today brother is questioning How could Prachi marry such a guy... The least Prachi could have done was to slap him and tell him she married Milind because she had a save the skin of useless brother like him😡

And being Wifey surely doesnt only mean she picks up his clothes, brushes and fill water in his beer cans... it is much more than that. She has every right of being Milind's wife... Prachi has taken to her new surname and Milind allowing her to do so surely means something. Ma'am dares to sort out the problems of Sukruti because Milind has given her the right to call his family her own. Till now Milind has brushed past every allegation that holds Prachi guilty against him, even after he caught her destroying evidence... he didnt ask her to get the money back. The minute he realised that Prachi had something to do with the disappearance of the money... he immediately said it is a disgrace for him as well, because she is HIS Wife. And can anyone forget the way he fought for Prachi's honour after the hotel scam? For him his wife's honour was his... Isnt that a sign of a how serious Milind is about this marriage? Can any forget the fact he did secure Prachi's house for her & her family?And today that family speaks to him like an outsider and she doesnt open her mouth?

I dont want Prachi to defend Milind, the man who was insulted today... because I respect Milind a great deal to see anyone else defend him. Yes, I want Prachi to defend Milind, The Husband who is her family when he was questioned about his right to be Prachi's husband and a part of that family. I want Prachi to defend her Marriage, because I assume it means a lot to her, I want Prachi to standup for what is right... I want her to stand up for her husband whose self respect matters to her so very much that she could walk into jail to save his name.
Edited by Ryka - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Shali as far I know I think prachi had a duty to speak up for miland no matter what he is her husband…she is obliged to speak up when her husbands self respect is on stake! I remember whenever prachi has been in a troubled or uneasy situation no matter what and with what intention but miland constantly stays by her…many times ayesha has tired to destroy prachi image and reputation but miland has stood by her and protected her!!! Thus even if its paying back all that miland has done for her it was her responsibility to stand by him in such extreme circumstance!

Previously even when all evidence proved that prachi had stolen the money from milands cupboard he still kept it low, because he didn't want people to think of disgust for prachi! Yeah maybe many will argue that the reason why he kept this matter enclosed was due to ayesha I personally felt, he did this to protect prachi's reputation!

Prachi let me down today! Did not anticipate this from her!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I agree with Ryka and Sima.... Watever Milind did to P, he did in inside 4 walls of his bedroom.... He never pointed fingers at her publicly, except for the party scene...

Then wen he caught her red handed with the money bag in hotel, he just scolded her and then left... He didnt create a scene there...

Atleast infront of others he maintained dignity and always supported P.... So i thought P wud also do the same and even more considering her opinion abt her marriage to M...

Hope P doesnt disappoint us again tommorrow

Krishi
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Posted: 18 years ago
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All i want to say to that @#$(@#^$&#*^$@# is

Originally posted by: Ryka


I dont want Prachi to defend Milind, the man who was insulted today... because I respect Milind a great deal to see anyone else defend him. Yes, I want Prachi to defend Milind, The Husband who is her family when he was questioned about his right to be Prachi's husband and a part of that family. I want Prachi to defend her Marriage, because I assume it means a lot to her, I want Prachi to standup for what is right... I want her to stand up for her husband whose self respect matters to her so very much that she could walk into jail to save his name.



I agree with this part Ryka. But strangely i am not mad at Prachi. It was wrong of her not to stand up against her bro...but then again...its her character. Shes is that kind of person, who avoids conflicts. The only confrontation scenes of Prachi have been with Neev. With everyone else she solves their problems without letting them know that shes helping them. She is the person who does all the hard work behind the scene and someone else takes the credit for it, and she seems to care less. She too had tears in her eyes today for the insult her husband endured. But she almost never makes a scene in public (unlike her !#@*($^@$*&😡 u know who i mean). I still remember her talking with so much respect for Milind when Alaap asked her why she wanted to marry a servant. That was in the circle of family tho. She deals with things in a less dramatic way. However, i was surprised Ayesha didn't say anything. It wasn't just that Alaap was insulting Milind but was also indirectly insulting Ayesha's upbringing. I can't believe she kept quiet the whole time...its very unlike her.

However, i am not angry at Ayesha or Prachi today. I am so mad at Milind for letting that !$^@*$%!T@)*($&(!@^#&*%!@$&@#^!$&**)^@!& #* speak to him like that. What happened to him today????????? I am sadly shocked by his silence today and his tears...whats that for. By crying like that he actually made whatever Alaap said to be valid. He better return to his self again tomorrow. I am sure his business might suffer because of the damage to his image done at the party but ...hopefully Prachi will help him out as she too has been involved in her dad's business.

JC
Edited by jinc118 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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As for where ayesha is concerned that gyal is better off minding her own business now…no point coming for miland's rescue at this stage! What ever happened has happened now…no need to rub salt on miland's bruises! (As we know that gyal is only good for rubbing in)


Miland should consider letting bygones be bygones!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ryka

Shali, I agree Milind has been rude to Prachi... indeed he was.... ( although that the reason for us to love him).....and he has used her. But didnt she marry him for her convenience, for her family, didnt she marry him to have her brother spared? yes she did.... And today brother is questioning How could Prachi marry such a guy... sweety alaap is a worhtless guy, aslong everything goes according his wish and deseire all is well.....The least Prachi could have done was to slap him and tell him she married Milind because she had a save the skin of useless brother like him😡 with what right should she have done that.... yes as a wife she should have devended him but he never gave her that right......

And being Wifey surely doesnt only mean she picks up his clothes, brushes and fill water in his beer cans... yes itn't... but miland himself never gave her more rights...... is much more than that. She has every right of being Milind's wife... please tell miland that first..... then prachi will be fighting for him😆....Prachi has taken to her new surname and Milind allowing her to do so surely means something.sweety I would call that a legal right even miland couldn't stop her........ Ma'am dares to sort out the problems of Sukruti because Milind has given her the right to call his family her own. wrong P always have been helpig her..... Till now Milind has brushed past every allegation that holds Prachi guilty against him, even after he caught her destroying evidence...agreed..... he didnt ask her to get the money back. but the moment he saw her with the money.... he walked away with a womans bag😆......The minute he realised that Prachi had something to do with the disappearance of the money... he immediately said it is a disgrace for him as well, because she is HIS Wife.oke he excepted the fact that she was his wife.... And can anyone forget the way he fought for Prachi's honour after the hotel scam? For him his wife's honour was his... are you sure.... he didn't looked cared and even brushed her off....Isnt that a sign of a how serious Milind is about this marriage? oke he is half way😉.....Can any forget the fact he did secure Prachi's house for her & her family? was that realy for her our was that a slap in the face off A......And today that family speaks to him like an outsider and she doesnt open her mouth? he may be accepted by the wife and MIL but still has a long way to go....

I dont want Prachi to defend Milind, the man who was insulted today... me niether.....because I respect Milind a great deal to see anyone else defend him. me too....Yes, I want Prachi to defend Milind, The Husband who is her family when he was questioned about his right to be Prachi's husband and a part of that family. I want Prachi to defend her Marriage, because I assume it means a lot to her, I want Prachi to standup for what is right... I want her to stand up for her husband whose self respect matters to her so very much that she could walk into jail to save his name. as I said before i wanted to see that also....I am only saying prachi reactoin was also normal and not stranged, so better dont put everything on her......

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Dear Ryka and Shali:

As far as the issue at hand is concerned, I am presently divided on a personal level. 😕 Watching the scene of Prachi standing mutely observing her husband suffer taunts from that low-life brother of hers, Alaap, it was, quite frankly, very easy for me to judge her. 😡 I felt unequivocally she should have halted the cruel words of Alaap. But after reading Shali's viewpoint, I am not so sure as I was in the beginning of garnering that perspective. In fact, I find myself drawn to viewing the whole situation from another perspective altogether.

As audience members, we cannot expect the characters to act singularly out of character. Prachi is a mentally tough woman; otherwise, she would never have been able endure losing Neev to Ayesha in marriage. But at the same time, she has always taken her mother as the model of an ideal Indian woman and homemaker; she has been taught under her tutelage to act the docile daughter and wife. We cannot anticipate, therefore, that years of Inder's high expectations and Premlata's training to be erased in the matter of seconds!

I have also been thinking about Milind. Secretly, Milind has always worried that he really has no class and no upbringing to speak of as the son of a servant and having grown up as a motherless boy. Alaap "hit below the belt;" and his words pierced Milind more than anything in his life probably could have or will. You see, it is not that Milind minds that Alaap thinks the worst of him. It is, on the contrary, that he has thought all those worst things about himself a thousand times that makes this situation feel worse for him. He feels wounded not so much at the disrespectful language and demeanor of Alaap but at having his worst fears vocalized in front of the so-called respectable society present at the party. What do you do when your worst thought about yourself that haunts you is suddenly known to more than half a dozen strangers? Yes, you are hurt and you run because maybe then you can forget what you yourself won't let you forget: that you are unworthy!

Ayesha! She, I harbor no doubt, loves Milind or at least believes that she does. She is a character with shades of grey, which is why I have found myself unable to muster true loathing for her. She is not evil but nor is she a do-gooder. She is simply the woman whose fate pulls her in the direction of wrecking vengeance that she believes is well-deserved. Whether the revenge is deserved or not, from our point of view or those of the characters themselves, is immaterial because what matters is Ayesha's perspective. And she believes the whole Shah family guilty! Really, if I confess that she loves Milind, why didn't she stand up for Milind? Well, I will tell you why... By what right should she have stood up for Milind? He is not her husband, not her lover, and in recent days, has certainly not been her friend. Sometimes, the truth is, even if we want to speak, our tongues stand tied because we feel it is not our place to say something.

Anyhow, that is my take!

Sincerely,

Ek Umeed 😊

Edited by ekumeed - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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hi umeed...

yes alaap has hit miland beneath the belt... and miland insecurity raised up.....after miland breaking down...it was very easy to hit the bottle...

so was that a act off strength or should we call that a act off a coward....and sorry I don't feel sorry for miland getting a accident.... he done that to himself 😡 ...so no mercy for me..

we have been hammering about the fact that prachi should have said something.... but if the person who is being target cant say a thing what could prachi have done....alaap very much told the truth... ohhh yes he was mean and evil... but the truth is the truth......
and it was how miland should have reacted on that.... but miland didn't... cause he was ashamed....

let me now put a other Q...
if neev was standing there and insulted miland like that.... how would our reaction be then.... I think we would be more divided over this.....

but now it's alaap the jerk, we all hate so we are cursing prachi....and prachi should have opened her mouth cause miland is her hubby.......
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I agreed with everything else that you said Shali but this last part. It wouldn't have mattered if Neev was the one to have uttered the dialogs that Alaap did. I can only speak for myself when i say that i would have hated Neev more than Alaap if it were him. And i still would have wanted Prachi to stand up to Neev...and maybe it would have been easier for her to slap Neev (as she has done b4). But I didn't expect Prachi to do much because its not in her character. She doesn't react to situations by retaliating. She bares all insults and crys to get her emotions out. So even if it was Neev who insulted Milind today i would have wanted Milind to speak up for himself than have Prachi or Ayesha utter a word. And if it were Neev then i am sure Milind would not have kept quite. He would have insulted him back that hes a joru-ka-gulam living like a ghar-jamai at Milind's expenses. I was waiting for Milind to give it to Alaap and as a low-life like him shouldn't be talking about family prestige as he has never done anything to keep his family's image intact and has done everything to ruin it.
I just can't forgive Milind for standing there and taking it...y...was he being a husband to Prachi and restraining himself from killing his brother-in-law. But what of the tears. Y have such low confidence in himself...a guy who made so much money in less than 3 months can't be this insecure. I don't buy that reasoning...because if Milind believed that about himself then he wouldn't have told off his father. Whenever his father talked about their karz and all to Milind, he refused to feel indebted and now all of a sudden he's insecure about his own identity. Milind was a guy full of confidence, he knew what hes capable of and where he stands in this world. So this sudden weakness ...i am sorry i just can't digest it.

JC
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: jinc118

I agreed with everything else that you said Shali but this last part. It wouldn't have mattered if Neev was the one to have uttered the dialogs that Alaap did. I can only speak for myself when i say that i would have hated Neev more than Alaap if it were him. And i still would have wanted Prachi to stand up to Neev...and maybe it would have been easier for her to slap Neev (as she has done b4). But I didn't expect Prachi to do much because its not in her character. She doesn't react to situations by retaliating. She bares all insults and crys to get her emotions out. So even if it was Neev who insulted Milind today i would have wanted Milind to speak up for himself than have Prachi or Ayesha utter a word. And if it were Neev then i am sure Milind would not have kept quite. He would have insulted him back that hes a joru-ka-gulam living like a ghar-jamai at Milind's expenses. I was waiting for Milind to give it to Alaap and as a low-life like him shouldn't be talking about family prestige as he has never done anything to keep his family's image intact and has done everything to ruin it.
I just can't forgive Milind for standing there and taking it...y...was he being a husband to Prachi and restraining himself from killing his brother-in-law. But what of the tears. Y have such low confidence in himself...a guy who made so much money in less than 3 months can't be this insecure. I don't buy that reasoning...because if Milind believed that about himself then he wouldn't have told off his father. Whenever his father talked about their karz and all to Milind, he refused to feel indebted and now all of a sudden he's insecure about his own identity. Milind was a guy full of confidence, he knew what hes capable of and where he stands in this world. So this sudden weakness ...i am sorry i just can't digest it.

JC

Dear Jinc118:

I am impressed by your line of reasoning. And I agree with you one point; I too would have hated Neev if he had been the one to utter the words. So, I am not in agreement with Shali on that point. But I definitely with Shali on the whole Prachi issue. But as far as your second inquiry regarding the fact that it is incomprehensible that Milind suddenly acquire this weakness, I don't see it as a sudden weakness. I think he feels somewhere inside of him unworthy of Prachi even though we have seen him criticize, scold, and manhandle her as being but a pawn in his game of revenge against Ayesha. And you're right; he never wanted to be reminded that they are indebted to the Shah family. But I think he didn't want to be reminded of the debt because he hated the facts of life (i.e. the rich throwing away the money while the poor having to work for every little coin) and the hypocritical lives led by the upper echelons of society. But it galled him to know that his social betters had something he would never have: respectability. But now that he has the social respectability, I think he feels not quite right.

In the movie Dhadkan, for example, the headstrong character of Sunil Shetty was of a low-income class and background without blue bloodlines who rose to unexpected heights of power and position in the business world. But you know what he carried with him all the time he touted himself as a businessman? His old, torn shirt and worn-out shoes?! Do you know why he said that he carried those things? Because while the world might know him as a business tycoon, he still considered himself the street ruffian who had made it to the top in this big, bad world to attain the love of a woman lost to him in marriage. I think Milind feels like that too--only my guess, of course.

In that same way, while as an audience member, you might be surprised to see headstrong Milind who always gave it back to Alaap, Ayesha and other slew of charachters their due, the truth is that I think Milind feels he does not belong there inside of the Shah house in his heart. He doesn't feel that he fits in this elite crowd. In my opinion, is that true? Of course not! I judge a person by the strength of his or her character rather that the size of his or her purse. Has Milind been taught that? Oh, yes, he has heard that sometimes in his school or lectures. But does he believe that? The answer is no! Because all his life, low-lives like Alaap have been given respect that should have been accorded to people holding onto their shred of morality and self-respect. Thus, I hope, fervently hope that he learns through Prachi's love that he is more than a servant's son, more than his birth or his pedigree; I hope Prachi teaches him that his heart and character is the true wealth of his life, one which true bluebloods like Alaap lack who have ice water running through their veins. And when he truly ceases to feel like a fake, he will react in a way he should have: He would kick Alaap's ass (pardon my crude language)! (And I'd pay to watch that! 😆) But he needs to feel worthy first, and I'm betting my money on Prachi (though she did disappoint me today but am witholding passing final judgment and waiting for her next actions).

That is purely my opinion. So, take it with a grain of salt. 😉

Sincerely,

Ek Umeed 😊

Edited by ekumeed - 18 years ago

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