Competent Script or Competent Cast

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Just a note: this topic is not that interesting...i was just writing down my thoughts.

I truly believe that the cast of kayamath (the entire cast) was very well selected. Expect for the new Dadi...everyone else fit their role to the T. And even in the new cast (if we give them a chance) everyone fits their role except for Proteek who is inconsistent with his acting. So i was thinking how much does the casting of the roles effect or determine how the character is recieved and how the story is appreciated. In my opinion, in the old cast everyone was perfect for their roles (again except for the new Dadi). And even in the new cast so far, i like the vamp (who is doing a good job of being a generic vamp), Aurintham (the brother in law, who looks as sweet and simple as his character is supposed to be) and Proteek's older brother, who needs to be a clown to have stayed married to a woman like the vamp is shown to be. I am sure he is always trying to smile or make other jovial because he constantly has to deal with that woman. The mother I feel hasn't gotten a scene yet to show her skills and Proteek is very inconsistent. He was good in his scenes in the train with Panchi...the fact that Proteek and Panchi were a young happy and very much in love couple came out well during those scenes. But since then he's been very inconsitent in his acting and Panchi Bora also (well i won't discuss that here as this will get long).

But all this i was saying because i feel that its not the actor's fault most of the time...they could be very talented but if that talent is not tapped on or exploited, its the script writer or directors fault. When we curse the creative team we curse them as a whole but how much is each one responsible for? A creative head i believe doesn't get involved in the details of each scene. But i am not defending anyone here...i am criticizing them for not doing their job right when they have a good cast at hand. THe guy playing Proteek's brother...i just watching him in "A Wednesday" and he was doing a fine job. So its not that he is not a good actor...its the scene and dialog given to him that makes him look like a joke.

The point i am trying to make is...the inconsistency comes partly due to the script and the actors are then left as confused as the veiwers. Now last week i was catching up on the story of Banoo Mein Teri Dulhan (hadn't watched it in a while). In that story after the 22 years leap a child who was a jovial, prankster...always laughing and making everyone else feel better...came back as a top notch business man, brooding, lonely, serious and no-nonesense kind of guy...even seemed a bit heartless. But they had a good expalaination for how the character became that and the consistency was maintained by the script. It made absolute sense that he hated everyone around him...especially women and actually was even ready to kill his own mother...and didn't even melt seeing her state after recognizing him as her long lost son (which was a truly moving scn btw...even i cried for her though she is the vamp in the show).

My point is that if they showed some sort of progression in Kayamath's story after the leap...and explained how the characters became the way they did over the five years...in other words if they took their time to DEVELOP a story instead of feeding us a half baked product...we might have digested it better and probably wouldn't feel so sick right now.

So what i am trying to say is...i'd take a less than average cast in a good script over a talented cast wasted on a crappy script.


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Ira593 thumbnail
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i rele dunno wat is the main problem bt this family just looks like a circus for some reason.....i just dunno the reason😕....
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Star Diva

i rele dunno wat is the main problem bt this family just looks like a circus for some reason.....i just dunno the reason😕....

Yeah agree ira... it looks out of place and i feel it doesnt bring story progression but it has considerably depicted a regression😕
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I fully agree with you JC about the script being weak. In fact I made a post right after the leap about how unconvinced actors were giving unconvincing performace.
But then, KYM never had a tight script. Each Michi separation track outdid the earlier one in terms of being stupid and illogical. Sometimes even seasoned actors find it diificult to rise above the script. We saw Shabbo struggling to enact in the PA track because he was made to behave like a person who has taken complete leave of his senses rather than one who has lost one year of his life.
The only difference I see between then and now is that people were willing to put up with any nonsense as long as they saw Michi in the same frame. In this track, even that is not given. See the reaction to Wednesday's and Thursday's episodes. Even old FBS got viewers excited and they were less critical of the story or the cast. Michi baby behaving like papa on Thursday was an added bonus. Lets face it. People watch this show only for Michi, not the cast nor the script.
Having said that, I feel the earlier cast was moe realistic and hence endeared themselves to the viewers. The current one is just over the top.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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The only difference I see between then and now is that people were willing to put up with any nonsense as long as they saw Michi in the same frame. In this track, even that is not given. See the reaction to Wednesday's and Thursday's episodes. Even old FBS got viewers excited and they were less critical of the story or the cast. Michi baby behaving like papa on Thursday was an added bonus. Lets face it. People watch this show only for Michi, not the cast nor the script.
Having said that, I feel the earlier cast was moe realistic and hence endeared themselves to the viewers. The current one is just over the top.



agree...KYM 's script lost it after Michi first declared their love to each other...yet we kept watching because Michi were that good together. But i don't know...would Michi hold the same magic when they get back together. Having spent two days away from the forum and the show...i feel that if i keep away from the show for another two days...i'll be cured completely of this. Thats all it takes...don't show me Michi for a few days and i won't care two cents for this show....like i am not caring right now. But even then...i had to find some logic...some sort of twisted way to make the story relatable and sensible...that was the only way for me to be ok with watching this show even for Michi. But now...i don't know how they plan on taking the show forward and how Michi will come back together...but if its something less than what i expect...then Michi just won't be the same...and as it is i've got enough shows to watch other than KYM...i'll have no problem walking away from it...because for me personally the story matters more than the chemistry of the actors.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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It's not really my opinion (though I agree totally with it), I've read in some essays and articles that indeed in TV soaps especially the daily ones what matter most is the script. It's also what matters to general viewers. Many Michians suffered any illogical crap dumped on us for Michi, because we're fans, but I don't think casual viewer would take that.

Not saying that actors don't matter, they matter a looot. It's just that the script matters more to keep general viewers' attention after so many episodes.




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Posted: 17 years ago
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Nothing can substitute a good tight script. From what I have seen of KTH, atleast it had one for nearly two years (as I watch the repeat, I do not know how gripping the original was after that). The show also had some very good actors. Maybe that is why people put up with mutiple marriages in the show. KYM is different as it banked more on the purity and magic of Michi. The leap has left a huge dent on this by demeaning Prachi's character. Now people will settle for nothing less than her redemption by way of atonement. Milsi needs to return to his original strong self. Michi reunion after Prachi pays for it will keep the viewers going provided they do not bring about further degradation in her character.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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the old cast yes they all did well except for new daadi but this new cast even tho I have not watch them to see and know how well or bad the are doing because reading the updates is enough for me to know that I cannot and will not stand them for long............the only good thing about this leap is Michi son anything else thats new is crap.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Oh and to be fair great script matter anywhere, not only in daily soaps. However unlike in movies where actors' names can/possibly single handedly make a box office, things don't seem to work that way in TV series or serials.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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indeed a good script is important...no doubt about that....talent is getting waisted...with the result off viewers walking away...

I have been saying that the lack off a logic script has killed michi chemistry...and it started when aniVK walked out.....the creative never could get their hands on the storyline again....and so they messed up big time..see the PIM track....

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