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Posted: 1 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Neutral2

In the last 8 year and in the 2 year of cancer, Katha didn't need any man because Aarav was too small to understand the need of father. Also Aarav was neither ready nor attached to someone who he can call father. Just imagine Katha getting marry when Aarav was sick. He was already fighting with cancer, and then have to deal with step father.

@red-Aur aab father figure ke liye aisa addiction ho gaya ki haar kisi ko baap bananey ke liye tayyar haismiley37Your comment kind of cements my opinion that Katha will do whatever Aarav demands her to do even if that means marrying a 50 yr old man(if Aarav feels connected to that man as a father)smiley36

Mental ailment is different from physical ailment. Here Aarav need mental support. Katha was not able to provide that. Aarav become too attached with Raghav. I think the arrangement is setup by Yuvraj (not Aarav). Aarav might like the idea (however I feel he should be more paranoid with new papa but this is ITV so don't expect too much logical).

@underlined-I don't think Aarav know about Yuvraj's suggestion to get married to Raghav...it was purely his demand .He felt connected and comforter in Raghav and wanted Katha to marry him.."aap humari choti si duniya jaldi se puri kar do na... "

I believe Raghav took the advantage of Katha situation. However it is not wrong as Viaan took the advantage of Katha's condition. (Before anyone bash me for bringing up that topic, here I am making similarity to only point out Katha's behavior or response).

I really won't comment on this matter...bcoz there is a huge difference in both these things...different aspects also.

Still it is very stupid decision from Katha's side, because Raghav was anyway treating Aarav inspite of Katha saying no and Aarav was very well back then. Katha didn't need to do extra step and that too when Viaan was coming out from prison.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: _OrChiD_

Reet is root of the ONS revelation, she brought 1 crores topic to Maya. It wasn't Teji. And why would Viaan leave his mother when one side people defend Katha for her every cruel action in the name of motherhood, other side same people expect Viaan to leave only person in his family. smiley29


Katha can't leave her 2 minutes bro who almost killed her partner but people expect Viaan to leave his mother because she wanted to break a marriage, she was unsuccessful there too. They couldn't have done anything if it wasn't for Kathas so called sister in law and brother.

Reet only told them about the money, it was Teji and Maya who did all the investigation and found the truth. They could have kept the secret to themselves once they found out and not tell Reet but they did. Even later when Reet wanted to back out after seeing what happened to Viaan, it was Maya who threatened her into telling everyone. That truth was bound to come out anyway. It was just a matter of time.


And no. No one is asking Viaan to leave Teji. Why should he? Why should anyone leave their families for their partners? Be it Katha, Viaan or anyone else. But I find it a bit hypocritical that this Only Family card can be played for Viaan but not Katha. Apparently she shouldn't do everything for her Only Family that is her son. If this motherhood card cannot be played by Katha, then it also cannot be played by Teji or Viaan. And this is not some katha stanning or Viaan stanning. Just because I don't find fault with Katha's every action or thought, it doesn't mean I'm against Viaan. And one cannot blame Katha for Reet and Yuvraj's actions, just like one cannot blame Viaan for Teji's.


Also, what is this 2 minutes brother, or 2 minutes family? Aren't Viaan and Vanya 2 minute siblings by that logic? He found out her truth and there wasn't even a moment of hesitation on his part in accepting her. No awkwardness, no unwillingness, no doubts. And look where they are now. One cannot even tell that she is his half-sister, one he didn't even know about for like 3 decades of his life. She is his biggest supporter, his biggest cheerleader, one who is always in his corner. Come to think of it he formed this so-called 2-minute bond with Aarav too, just after a couple of meetings. So, I don't see what length of time has to do with the strength of feelings or importance of a person.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Neutral2

@bold, absolutely true. Viaan did only one mistake and she said this just after he recovered from near death experience after brutally beaten by Yuvraj. This is the worst.

It will be more appropriate if she put blame on entire Raghuvanshi family (not just Viaan).

Why only Raghuvanshi's.. wasn't Garewals responsible for the mess?? Garewals told her to die along with her son...Reet conspired and put the seed of doubt in Maya's screwed brain and on Maya's instigation she spilled everything to Garewals mixed with lies...didn't they deserved to be called out?? Agar blame dalna hi hai...Katha should have the guts to call out all of them!!She not only suffered for Raghuvanshis but also for Garewals.

The thing is Katha still consider ONS as some kind of paap or unethical. It is very difficult for moralistic people to change their perspective to termed it as just a private matter. Though Katha sympathize with Viaan but not justifying his action at all. If you hear her word to papaG "Jo kuch bhi sahana tha, maine sah liya".

Moral aur ethics ki baat hi maat karo.Where does her morals and ethics go when she cheats a family ?? Where does her ethics or morals go when the person whom she loves so much...she doesn't go to meet him for once. Where does her ethics go when she hides about her past to the doctor who treats her child??Moreover this is the girl who shouted at Viaan saying that she has no guilt over the ONS and has no shame what ppl think of her.Now suddenly she finds the ONS revelation as paap!!smiley29 Great!!

For her, she was trying to mediate but it makes situation worse.

Also she already made a decision to leave Viaan before the argument started due to fear of Aarav getting know and start hating Viaan. The best would be to start prepare Aarav and tell him "Do not believe anybody".

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Posted: 1 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: divine_16

During the Garewal fiasco...she stated that she had that constant fear that "saab kuch kharab na ho jaye" regarding the ONS revelation. Then she should have hold herself and not reciprocated to Viaan's love at all .Itna hi daar tha...that Aarav might also know about it toh pyaar ke saagar mein doobne ko kisney kahan??smiley36She should have stayed alone with Aarav whole life according to the deal she and Aarav made" humarey beech koi teesra insaan nahi aayega".And one thing I don't understand...why is she so tensed , anxious and afraid of everyone knowing about the ONS?? When she was blasting Viaan during the time he came to apologize to her for the ONS offer after knowing the truth of Aarav..she said she neither has guilt nor she cares what ppl think of her ".So,now suddenly why so creating hulla machoing over it that family came to know...blah blah blah.. and breaking ties with Viaan.Even if she marries another guy...won't Aarav in future want to know how she gathered such a huge amount for his treatment or the guy she marries won't he be curious to know?? What is she going to do then....another set of lies??

Yes, why not. Till now, she had been lying to Aarav and, I think it has done a good job. When he realises that the person he befriended used his mother like a slave, how is he going to forgive him? He will be in guilt to what extents his mother went just because of him. This was pointed my Maaya. He will surely get into depression. Nothing can be predicted what will happen but, it will be worse. Half truth has made him bratty. Full truth can make him go either way.




The reasons which is given that she can't stay with Viaan doesn't convince me...and if u think the reasons are strong enough ...then in that case she should have never reciprocated his love."Hum us kali raat ko peechey chodke bar gaye hai...aab daar daar ke nahi jeena"this was her words in the car during Dargah visit.. but alas!! Only words...


She is still isn't scared...... if Aarav is out of this scene. But, he is a character and you need to consider it. Just to see KaViaan together, you just can't ignore him.



Aarav was the driving force..""aap humari choti si duniya jaldi se puri kar do na...aapka kya jaata hai"" these were his words to Katha.Agreed Raghav approached her...and it wasn't that he put her at gunpoint to accept the proposal.smiley36Viaan approached Katha...and again she wasn't at gunpoint to accept him in her life...


Maa maan gyi hai. Maasi Chali gyi. These were the words from Katha to Guni Maa a day before. So, engagement talks started a lot before. Aarav's tantrum only made the engagement date which was supposed to happen at some convenient time much later, it happened earlier. So, this foolish decision of marrying psychiatrist was purely hers. That day, she realized that going back to Viaan isn't an option for her now. It will completely ruin her family (By family, I mean Aarav). One voice tape was enough to drive him this level crazy even after so much healing and time.




Getting herself killed to get insurance ...well that wasn't a sensible decision, agreed as she did take some impulsive decision before also which I have stated in one of my previous posts, I think while replying to one of your post .By keeping senses intact I also meant that she never used any person for her or her child's benefit nor cheated anyone nor did she needed the crutches of a man to make her struggles easier.But now whatever she is doing to save Aarav ..she is using Raghav and his family and cheating them


She is still not cheating Raghav. She is trying to adjust with him and slowly forget Viaan. It takes time. One just not forgets their love just like that. This is how arrange marriages are. Couples don't love each other but work towards each other and eventually adjust with time.

She is doing one thing which can't be justified is hiding things from Raghav. If Viaan didn't arrive this quickly in the scene, she might have told Raghav full truth once she got comfotable with him. Even though, they are good friends, she isn't comfortable with him.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: _OrChiD_

I will be forever bitter about this show. They promoted it as love story, all we got is bad parenting tips. smiley44


I will remember it in my most bad drama list smiley36

kya Bol rahee ho behen? paap hain romance ke baare mein baath Karna, that too when they are not in relation right now. When they were in relation and Katha was in a very good mood what did we get? Quiz and a couple of hugs. Now even after they get back together people will say why are you asking when time is not right😀. Time is not right because they have two grown up kids now😀and can’t romance because of that. So better adapt yourself to their situation and don’t put in unnecessary demands😀. This is for all people who wanted to see romantic moments between kaviaan.😀 The underlying message is TIME IS NECER RIGHT or the writers have never thought of creating a right time 😀
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Posted: 1 years ago
#56

Adnan is so blunt. Sacchi sacchi bathh kaisey bol deti hai that he don't think he will be in touch with anyone smiley37


Pretend hii kar leta Banda smiley36



https://youtu.be/9lT3B2dJBos?si=B_33yqfpdQa4BLSG

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Posted: 1 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: divine_16

Moral aur ethics ki baat hi maat karo.Where does her morals and ethics go when she cheats a family ?? Where does her ethics or morals go when the person whom she loves so much...she doesn't go to meet him for once. Where does her ethics go when she hides about her past to the doctor who treats her child??Moreover this is the girl who shouted at Viaan saying that she has no guilt over the ONS and has no shame what ppl think of her.Now suddenly she finds the ONS revelation as paap!!smiley29 Great!!

True, she is selective in term of moral and ethics. For her whatever she do unethical, she has a reason, whatever other do, is wrong.

Then the best would be she tell everyone, it is her who offer Viaan ONS when Viaan rejected giving money. Take all the blame on herself and the problem is solve.

Ab pyar ke liye itna jhoot to bol hi skti h.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: _OrChiD_

Adnan is so blunt. Sacchi sacchi bathh kaisey bol deti hai that he don't think he will be in touch with anyone smiley37


Pretend hii kar leta Banda smiley36



https://youtu.be/9lT3B2dJBos?si=B_33yqfpdQa4BLSG

Manish seems like a fun guy. Bas bechare ko role galat mil gyasmiley36


They all are so disappointed with the abrupt decision. No one was expecting it and clearly they don't agree with it but can't even say it openly. Clearly it's all channel's games. These people have nothing but good things to say about the PH. Even during the diwali segments they only praised the PH and the arrangements they had done. They're good people and probably why they got easily bullied by the stupid Sony.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neutral2

True, she is selective in term of moral and ethics. For her whatever she do unethical, she has a reason, whatever other do, is wrong.

Then the best would be she tell everyone, it is her who offer Viaan ONS when Viaan rejected giving money. Take all the blame on herself and the problem is solve.

Ab pyar ke liye itna jhoot to bol hi skti h.

Katha yeh bolegi aur woh bhi pyaar ke liye...smiley37

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